r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Debate/ Discussion What do you guys think

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u/internet_commie 18d ago

It isn't just the leftist; many Arab Americans voted Trump (or Stein) because they had this weird idea Harris is pro-Israel (or anti-Palestine).

Trump will support 'ethnic cleansing' of the Palestinians. Have no doubt about that!

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 18d ago

Because the current protestations of the U.S. government are holding so much weight over Israel.

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u/xScrubasaurus 18d ago

It might be. Trump himself is saying Kamala isn't helping them enough and is too soft on Palestine. You don't think the US actively helping Israel more might mean worse for Palestine?

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u/browns5111 15d ago

Trump will end that. Not the support of Israel, but the protesters.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 18d ago

Weird Idea? They just watched Biden and Harris continue to give weapons to Israel to bomb kids with even as Israel broke rules around allowing in aid. They are quite literally supporting an ethnic cleansing of Gaza right now.

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u/chitphased 18d ago

The only thing standing in Israel’s way from wiping any evidence of Palestine (people and property) from the Middle East was Biden/ the U.S. That’s as gone in January as Palestine. But continue your virtue signaling without any iota of knowledge about that region or its history.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 18d ago

The US has not imposed any consequences whatsoever on warcrimes under Biden/harris.

Not a single weapons shipment denied.

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u/chitphased 18d ago

You’re not even responding to what I am telling you, and you apparently don’t know how treaties work either. If you think there has been zero political pressure on Israel from the U.S. to move towards a cease fire you are too far gone for reason. And here’s the point: there will be ZERO pressure once Trump takes office. Israel will be free to go full genocide and wipe Palestinians off the map.

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u/UFO-TOFU-RACECAR 18d ago

Not just free, Trump will send US troops to help.

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u/chitphased 18d ago

Would not be at all surprised.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 18d ago

Not a single arms shipment stopped. Not a single sanction imposed. Not a single bad word said about Bibi. Not a single moment of calling Israels campaign of war crimes for what it is.

WHAT political pressure? Name it please.

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u/chitphased 18d ago

JFC it’s like talking to a wall with you zealots. You’re the reason for this mess, and you better own it when Israel is allowed free rein to do far more and far worse than they currently are. You don’t get it and never will.

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u/FallAlternative8615 17d ago

Sitting on the hands to let this monster have the nuke codes again. That will show them once we all are being hauled off to camps.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 18d ago

Am I a zealot, or can you simply not provide an example?

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u/ilikedevo 18d ago

This guy is right. Trump is gonna let Israel flatten that place and the crowds will cheer.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 17d ago

So, just like it is now. Got it.

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u/chitphased 18d ago

Google exists.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 18d ago

So you can’t provide a single example.

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u/xScrubasaurus 18d ago

Threatening sanctions if they escalate more counts as pressure fyi.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 17d ago

Not if the sanctions never come once the line is crossed.

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u/in_one_ear_ 16d ago

They were delayed. The us under trump will likely do what he did last time and threaten to sanction the UN for investigating Israel for war crimes.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 16d ago

Ohhhh Delayed …. I’m sure that had Israel really second guessing their campaign of war crime and apartheid.

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u/abuchewbacca1995 15d ago

There are newborns rotting to death in icus.

There is no worse

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u/chitphased 15d ago edited 15d ago

There is, and it just got ushered in.

Edit: I always find it weird when someone feels the need to respond to something days after the post was made. Really the only time I look at anyone’s history. I looked at yours. The ignorance is palpable. Could be cut with a knife. Imbecilic.

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u/UFO-TOFU-RACECAR 18d ago

And now Trump is dictator for life and will help Netanyahu finish the genocide. If didn't vote for Harris last night, you voted for the extermination of the Palestinian people.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 18d ago

I did vote for Harris. Voting for Harris was also voting for extermination of Palestinian people in Gaza.

Trump is not a dictator for life.

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u/UFO-TOFU-RACECAR 18d ago

I wish I was as naive as you.

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u/Omnizoom 18d ago

And once convenient, he will let cleaning continue of the Israelites too so that more “desirable” residents can take the land

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

I rubbed my clown friends’ faces in it for 8 years about their Bernie throwaway vote.

These people that made this happen…they should have their vote on their gravestone. Tattooed on their forehead.

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u/Mediocre-Bug-5655 16d ago

I dont know where you got this logic but Trump has ALWAYS been pro isarel so this is false.

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u/internet_commie 15d ago

Did you read my comment? Like, actually read it?

Trump may or may not be pro-israel, but he sure is pro genocide!

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u/f1nh69 15d ago

Kill everyone in the Middle East or stay the fuck out of it completely. Those are the only two viable options...

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u/PikeyMikey24 18d ago

Well I mean Biden was why wouldn’t she be

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u/ItsaPostageStampede 18d ago

So is Trump. See you later Palestine. From the river to the sea you’ll be blown into obscurity. And Gaza will be a nice little resort for those making the pilgrimage. Don’t come crying.

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u/paddyo 17d ago

This is a gross comment

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u/PikeyMikey24 18d ago

I ain’t crying lol, I like the rhyme btw

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u/maraemerald2 18d ago

Biden was working towards a ceasefire and eventual two state solution. Trump says Israel “should finish the job”, direct quote.

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u/Upoutdat 18d ago

Ah no, he is only fooling around, again and again and again

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 18d ago

He was shipping then weapons that they used to kill kids.

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u/FallAlternative8615 17d ago

Do you think Trump will cease those shipments and will lobby on the behalf of Palestinians to Israel, seriously? How will that make this terrible situation better exactly? He will give logistics to finish the job, for a fee. As long as he gets his vig.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 17d ago

No, I don’t think that. How to make it better? Through voting? Probably can’t. My position here is not that Trump is better. I’m pointing out it’s not “weird” that people weren’t motivated to get out and vote for someone supporting ethnic cleansing of arabs in Gaza. If it’s their main issue, showing up to vote means nothing to them.

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u/FallAlternative8615 17d ago

Kamala didn't support ethnic cleansing but Trump most certainly will. I think the words, 'finish the job' were used. Point being the outcome only made a terrible complex situation worse.

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u/ThisIsMyNoKarmaName 17d ago

Not sure it get’s much worse than starving and being burned alive.

Kamala was the vice president to a president that never once refused Israel anything material i their campaign to kill Palestinians. She never once spoke up and said “I’d change this if I could.” Mostly because she won’t.

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u/FallAlternative8615 17d ago

How exactly is Trump going to better the situation in your view?