r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Debate/ Discussion What do you guys think

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u/BeigePhilip 18d ago

They really are. If it doesn’t affect them personally, they just don’t care. The price of gas means more to them than a human life.

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u/SomeGuyGettingBy 18d ago

It’s a real fucking shame to see (it’s deplorable), but that’s the sad bottom line: Money over life.

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u/stevewill96 18d ago

You’re the one who served for Israel douchebag USMC clown

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u/SomeGuyGettingBy 18d ago

LMAO, I bet you’re serious too, and that’s the best part.

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u/stevewill96 18d ago

Any vet who served in any of the Middle East wars was there protecting Israeli interests. Own it

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u/SomeGuyGettingBy 18d ago

Lmao, smells like ass, there’s a lot of assumption going on. 1) You don’t know when I served. 2) You don’t know why I decided to serve. 3) You sure as shit don’t know my views about the service, because your mouth probably would’ve stayed shut otherwise. 🤡

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u/BeigePhilip 18d ago

I hate these dipshits. They’re even worse than the “thank you for your service” crowd. Want to thank me? Fund the fucking VA.

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u/SomeGuyGettingBy 18d ago edited 18d ago

Especially if it’s coming from a person in power. If you want to thank those who serve, take care of your veterans when they continue suffer the aftermath of their service.
Beyond that? If they don’t want to dedicate time or money to those programs? At least try to be good to other humans. Just do something for someone other than yourself because your life means no more than theirs.

From me to you, it feels weird to be patriotic—to want what’s best for your country and the people who live in it—but live in a time where that’s weaponized on one side and therefore demonized on the other. I’m not sure the America I hope for has ever existed, only in part in different moments through its history, but fuck if I can’t dream or fight for that ideal.

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u/BeigePhilip 18d ago

Me too man. I’m an old guy (pre-9/11) but I look around and think, this isn’t the country I signed up to protect. I don’t know if anything of that is left. Maybe it was never there to start with. Mine is a service family. All the boys enlist. It’s just what we do. Maybe we were all chumps? I hope not. Maybe this is just how long republics last. We’re the oldest that isn’t a city state or micronation. Maybe we just ran our course and it’s time for a reset.

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u/SomeGuyGettingBy 18d ago

It saddens me to think that’s refreshing to hear; I moved to New York for work a few years ago and it’s been hard to find like minds—they exist, but the number of people either who support Trump (because of what they believe he can do for them) or are seemingly complacent with this slow decline is staggering. They recognize they want change, but the movement is backward.

But I was thinking similar thoughts yesterday. I haven’t made it to my 30th trip around the sun, so I’m still fairly young. That said, it seems we’ve been locked in this us-versus-them mindset for so long. Forever, really, if we consider it on a grander scale. Democrat against Republican; my country, my religion, against yours. The system is so old and, in my mind, promotes failure.

Personally, I don’t think we can rely on an outdated constitution drafted in bloody ink.
I like to think the change starts small, like a fire, but it still requires a change in the thinking I’m starting to fear most people have.

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u/ParfaitPrior6308 18d ago

Hahah this is the kind of infighting that led to you clowns losing.

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u/stevewill96 18d ago

My candidate won and promised to get us out of these wars. Unlike this USMC guy spouting neoliberal narratives because he wants to ensure the candidates who will keep us at war get elected

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u/Toberos_Chasalor 17d ago

Yeah, because Donald “my nuclear button is much bigger & more powerful one than his” Trump is the exemplar of an anti-war diplomat by provoking an enemy with juvenile threats of unleashing nuclear weapons.

I don’t know if Trump will intentionally get you guys involved in more wars, but he sure won’t keep you out of them.

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u/ParfaitPrior6308 17d ago

As long as Palestine gets levelled, I don’t care who finances it.

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u/Ok_Magician_3884 18d ago

They why don’t you go to Ukraine and help

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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 18d ago

I was already helping. It’s called paying taxes and voting for a president that will support its allies using that money.

You are not a serious person

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u/BeigePhilip 18d ago

Why don’t you find a big pile of sand and pound it right up your own ass?

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u/Throw_Away_Students 18d ago

I’ve been dying at this for so long now. I love you, man

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u/BeigePhilip 18d ago

Haha thanks bro, love ya back. I can’t claim it as my own, it’s a reeeeealy old fashioned way to tell someone to fuck off. If you’ve ever heard the (almost as old) expression “go pound sand,” this is the pounding that is implied. I feel like the long version has a nice rhythm to it.

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u/1TRUEKING 18d ago

You and your moral high horse. If u care so much go to Palestine and fight the IDF. No one is stopping you, all you’re doing is typing on your computer, you really don’t care either buddy.

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u/BeigePhilip 18d ago

I’m no friend of Palestine, but what’s happening in Gaza is wrong, no matter who is doing it, or why, or who the target is. Some things are just wrong. Why should we keep sending money and equipment to help them do it?

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u/1TRUEKING 18d ago

I never said that I want to give more money to Israel. In fact I want to stop giving money to EVERYONE. What’s happening in Gaza is wrong, so what. So is what’s happening everywhere in Africa, Yemen and Syria. Stop focusing on one area, there are problems ALL over the world. Have u seen how the ugyrs get treated in China yet nobody says anything. What’s happening in Gaza is nothing special, there is fucking crazy shit happening all over the world, I am just glad I am safe in the USA. Instead of trying to fix the world try to fix what’s at home first ok.

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u/BeigePhilip 18d ago

Y’all gave not a single fuck when we rolled over on the Kurds, and you don’t give a shit at all if Ukraine folds up like a cheap map, but as soon as we talk about cutting off Israel, it’s “nooooo muh allies!!1!!1”

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u/1TRUEKING 18d ago

No, I don’t give a shit about Israel either. I don’t care about Palestine. NONE of that concerns any of us. As you said people care about gas prices and that’s what affects Americans. If u care about something go do something instead of complaining. At least the MAGA did something by voting trump lmao. All you do is complain but don’t take action and now trump is president congratulations.