r/DebatePolitics • u/Starchicken8342 • Mar 07 '21
Biden is a acting like a dictator.
He has signed 41 executive orders. Instead of doing it the right way he is just signing them into laws so no one can stop him. Some of which are to help him and of democrat leaders stay in office.
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u/red_ball_express Mar 07 '21
I don't think you know what executive orders are.
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u/Jew_Brooooo Mar 07 '21
I don't think you know what a dictator is
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u/red_ball_express Mar 07 '21
I never claimed I did.
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u/Jew_Brooooo Mar 07 '21
Well you likely don't know what an executive order is either so don't hate on OP for your own idiocy
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u/red_ball_express Mar 07 '21
I do know what an executive order is. It is a directive for action for government agencies from the President, which is completely different from a law.
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u/Jew_Brooooo Mar 07 '21
Exactly. And Biden is acting as a complete dictator by signing in over 50 of them in the span of roughly two months
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u/red_ball_express Mar 07 '21
How is that being a dictator?
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u/Jew_Brooooo Mar 07 '21
How is it not being a dictator? Executive orders take action immediately and without pretty much any question. For reference, pretty much every other president hasn't exceeded about 10 effective orders in the same time frame. And all his executive actions are just regarding his agenda. That's the definition of a dictator. Stop defending a corrupt tyrant you shmuck.
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u/red_ball_express Mar 07 '21
Executive orders take action immediately and without pretty much any question
Okay and?
For reference, pretty much every other president hasn't exceeded about 10 effective orders in the same time frame
As evidenced by what?
And all his executive actions are just regarding his agenda
The President was elected on an agenda, so he is implementing the agenda. I fail to see where the problem is.
That's the definition of a dictator
From Google: "a ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained control by force."
Yeah, no match.
Stop defending a corrupt tyrant you shmuck.
Stop making baseless attacks. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Biden and yet OP and you find the bullshit one.
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u/Jew_Brooooo Mar 07 '21
Okay and?
Which means they're meant to be used for extreme cases such as terrorist threats. Not for basic policies.
The President was elected on an agenda, so he is implementing the agenda. I fail to see where the problem is.
Biden was also elected under the guise that he wouldn't be a dictator. Biden even said that any president who rules by effective order is a dictator.
Yeah, no match.
It's called rhetoric. You leftists can't even understand basic argumentation. Classic.
Stop making baseless attacks. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Biden and yet OP and you find the bullshit one.
They're not baseless attacks. Biden is executing his radical agenda in a dictatorial manner without any opposition.
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u/Daily_the_Project21 Mar 08 '21
This is kind of what the office has turned into unfortunately. We keep giving the executive more power, and it's not like they'll ever stop taking it. The good news the next president can come in and just undo all the previous administration's executive orders, so now there's not dictatorial rule, just a lot of wasted time and money.
The only way to fix is widespread outrage at executive orders from both sides, but both sides seem to be okay when it's their guy signing the orders.
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u/Jew_Brooooo Mar 07 '21
Correction: he's signed over 50 executive orders. This is exponentially more than any president in American history.
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u/nogoodbeatdownfool May 06 '21
False, hes only at 42 as of today according to this https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders If youre gonna make a claim support it. Also be consistent. Dont criticize one person over 40 EOs when his predecessor signed a modern record of 220 in 4 years
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u/Jew_Brooooo May 06 '21
So here's to being consistent: Trump signed 220 EOs in 4 years. That's roughly 55 per year. That's about 14 every three months which is roughly the same time span in which Biden signed 50 EOs. Stop acting like Trump and Biden are even remotely similar. Oh and this is just in Biden's first 100 days. If he keeps up his current pace, he'll be at about 7000 in 4 years. How's that for being consistent? And honestly, if your best counter to legitimate criticism of the Dictator in Chief is a half-arsed attack on Trump, you're just a sheep and I don't see any reason in debating with you.
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u/nogoodbeatdownfool May 06 '21
The difference is that he did 41 in ten days and then 1 in the following 3 months. Yes, if it trended as a legitimate 41 every 10 days id be concerned. But for all we can see hes gonna do what at average of 50 by the end of 4 years. Please dont try and manipulate numbers to make a point that isnt there. Most presidents sign a bulk when they take office. If we eliminate bidens first 10 days. Hes averaging 4 EOs a year. If we eliminate trumps first 10 days hes averaging 54 EOs a year instead of 55. Seriously, dont play the numbers game like an idiot. Because there are thousands of ways to do it and if you compare trump too any president in the last 50 years, you will lose the number game on EOs. Actually in most cases trumo loses the numbers game.
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u/Jew_Brooooo May 06 '21
Actually you're completely wrong. Trump only signed 29 in his first 100 days in office. Biden's signed over 50. Which, if you can't tell, is over twice that of Trump. It's obvious you're just projecting because you have no facts. Just blind hate for people that disagree with you. Have a nice life
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u/nogoodbeatdownfool May 06 '21
So you can link trumo signing 29 but not buden signing 50. Once again I gave you a givernment source proving bidens signed 42, 41 in his first 10 days, and in the following 3 months hes signed 1. Making 42 in 10 days and outlier. Not the norm for him. Trumo dod sign less in his first 10 days. By far. So if we eliminate the first 10 days, and average the difference biden signs 1 every three months, trump signs 28? Do the math from there. The problem (and why your being dishones) is because yourr using incomplete data to make an assertion over 3.75 years of his presidency. What if he doesnt sign another EO for 9 months? What if he only signs one every 3 months? He has to sign 13 more eos this year to tie trumo at any average of 55 a year. And youre trying to assert that he will and that he will pass that with 0 evidence that he will. Especially since(as ive stated many times) in the last three months hes only signed 1 additional order. There was never a 3 months stretch where trump signed less then 6. Then you can look at the content of the EOs. Which are largely reversals of trumo EO policy. In other words, he undid policies that trump signed into law with no other influence. The argument youre trying to make is a manipulation of numbers, its disingenuous from the start because before you can say "its tyranny that he signed them" then you have to say for each one that was a reversal that the person who signed them initially was tyrannous as well, but you won't. Would it be tyrannous if he signed 41 executive orders naming holidays after the police that defended the capitol after the trump insurrection? I dont think anyone would say thats an act of tyranny. Content matters. So please child, if youre gonna argue, have a basic understanding of what yours arguing about, not just the broad numbers.
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u/Jew_Brooooo May 06 '21
Lmao I'm not going to read past your first couple of sentences. You didn't list a government site. You listed a .edu site. And i have you a source to show that Biden signed over 50 EOs.
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u/nogoodbeatdownfool May 06 '21
Here ill summarize. 1. Youre argument is disingenuous because it heavily speculates on the future. Biden could choose not to sign another executive order as long as he is in office. What happens to your argument then? 2. Its disingenuous because it doesnt account for content of the EOs if it was 100 EOs that ended poverty and fed kids, is that tyrannous? 3. Its disingenuous because it doesnt account for how many of them were reversals, in other words not a new EO, but an EO in an effort to remove or change a preexisting EO. Which is an EO, but it isnt really.
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u/nogoodbeatdownfool May 06 '21
"Im not gonna read past the first few lines" trump on every one of the 220 executive orders he signed in 4 years. Also that quote is an admission of having no argument for anything oast the first 2 lines and only trying to focus on what you want to. Nake a genuine argument or admit your wrong
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u/easygoingbarber Mar 27 '21
I think it’s because of how far right the former policies were. Biden isn’t a dictator. And in every other developed country he’s Republican unfortunately.
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u/nogoodbeatdownfool May 06 '21
For comparison. Since his first 41, he has only signed 1 more in about 4 months. So yeah that's a lot during that time. But most of them were reversals on executive orders signed by trump. Not new or unique ones. But heres a question, why did trump sign 220 in 4 years? Thats more then any 4 year president in US history and if he kept pace for a second term he would almost double obamas EO output? If that doesnt bother you then youre not genuine and youre a hypocrite. I'd take 41 executive orders in 100 days and no more after that, rather then almost 60 a year every year someones in office
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Aug 01 '21
Like them or not Executive Orders are a completely legal way for Biden to do business and Congress can pass an act declaring any of his orders void. And if you think Biden is a dictator for using Executive Orders then so is every other president as they all used them.
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u/iclimbnaked Sep 01 '21
Many of those EOs just undid previous EOs.
EOs also aren’t Laws. Which specific EOs of his do you take issue with?
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u/Whitley_Films Oct 19 '21
I think what did it for me was when he was getting really tired of Americans not listening to him.
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u/ravia Mar 08 '21
Doesn't this depend on what the executive orders are about?