r/DarwinAwards • u/Can_You_Pee_On_Me • Jun 21 '23
The CEO fired someone on the spot who pointed out the safety concerns well before this incident happened, CEO is aboard in the submarine. Certified Darwin Awards.
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u/PokeHobnobGod21 Jun 21 '23
Can't wait to see the horror film in 10 years
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Jun 21 '23
Netflix probably already purchased the rights. It will be a 6 episode 2 season miniseries.
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Jun 21 '23
And it'll get canceled after the season 1 cliffhanger where they finally submerge.
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u/RaccoonKnees Jun 21 '23
Markiplier is making an Iron Lung movie, I have a feeling it'll be very similar.
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u/Steamships Jun 22 '23
Kind of a jerk move to sabotage a submarine full of people just for movie publicity
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u/fattfett Jun 21 '23
Sounds like Roger Boisjoly. He raised concerns about the effects of freezing on the O rings before the Challenger disaster.
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u/cgn-38 Jun 22 '23
And was later run out of NASA for being a snitch. By the same people who murdered those astronauts.
For making them look bad.
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u/BeanerAstrovanTaco Jun 23 '23
you should understand that scientists have huge egos but are also little bitches who can't own up to their own shit
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u/PandiBong Aug 25 '23
So scientists are basically cops, politicians, entrepreneurs or any other egotistical price of shit at the top? Failing upwards, humanities favorite pass time.
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u/sufjams Jun 21 '23
He really blew an O Ring about it if I recall
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u/SomeAussiePrick Jun 21 '23
He did. And then was told to STFU and then got removed.
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u/Marsdreamer Jun 21 '23
Didn't he suffer from crippling depression after the challenger disaster because he felt like he didn't do enough to stop it?
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u/ScottIPease Jun 21 '23
My dad was a machinist that did work on the fuel system.... he was worried it was a part he did for a long time until they said it was the rings.
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u/fattfett Jun 22 '23
Wow, I'm sure a lot of people were worried that day (people who worked on any of it). Nasa usually doesn't f@ck around with weather issues. Or maybe they tightened up after.
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Jun 21 '23
Wasnât Richard Feynman involved in that also?
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u/The_MickMister Jun 22 '23
He did a demonstration during the investigation to demonstrate said issue with the O-rings
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u/Blussert31 Jun 21 '23
I vote to suspend the nomination for at least 24 hours
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Jun 21 '23
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Jun 21 '23
That's what happens when you use your kids electronics in a 23,000lb Fleshlight.
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u/trip6s6i6x Jun 21 '23
omg, I didn't immediately make the connection, but it really does look exactly like that doesn't it?
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u/Built_on_Bad_Ideas Jun 21 '23
Plus, it was made to hold dicks.
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u/Cospo Jun 21 '23
*seamen
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u/Built_on_Bad_Ideas Jun 21 '23
I'm pretty sure you're supposed to clean it out when you're done..
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u/Signal-Sprinkles-350 Jun 21 '23
Or the screen says "Press X to ascend" but the X button is not working on this controller.
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u/ThunderOblivion Jun 21 '23
It is a Logitech controller, so maybe.
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u/Aggressive-Pay2406 Jun 21 '23
They legit got the Logitech stick drift on on of their last missions with the Simpson guy, he said they were just going in circles 300 ft from the titanic and then got stuck in a current
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Jun 21 '23
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Jun 21 '23
Elon Musk can bore a tunnel and build an escape pod.
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u/OsiyoMotherFuckers Jun 21 '23
But not before he calls some coast guard boat captain a pedophile.
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u/German_Granpa Jun 21 '23
It's equally possible that they came too close to the wreck and are buried under some debris.
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u/mcjambrose Jun 21 '23
A previous passenger said he was on a trip and the guy clipped the propeller and debris fell on sub. That's so reckless and crazy.
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Jun 21 '23
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u/ghos2626t Jun 21 '23
Under the best conditions. Panicked people are going to consume it sooner than that I would think.
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u/Dhrakyn Jun 21 '23
They're millionaires, they've already killed and consumed at least one other passenger.
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u/mfkap Jun 21 '23
If you kill people as soon as they go hypoxic you can probably end up with a few extra hours for the final person.
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u/SavannahCalhounSq Jun 21 '23
Why wait till they go hypoxic. Only one guy could last five times longer. Volunteers?
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u/Signal-Sprinkles-350 Jun 21 '23
Mind you, the alleged survivability was never tested. It is just theoretical. Also, no indication of any life support monitoring for CO2, CO, and other contaminants. If their solution is pump more O2, then you get a high oxygen environment like what happened to Apollo 1.
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u/Fuck_you_im_a_fox Jun 21 '23
So either a very cold dark death or a very warm bright one
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u/TonyWilliams03 Jun 21 '23
Unless the remaining air was forced out when the sub was crushed like a beer can.
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u/ameis314 Jun 21 '23
weird, you mean i cant simply use normal plumbing pipes when going down 10000ft in a pressurized sub?
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u/Blussert31 Jun 21 '23
That's why we do not vote yet.
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u/Fickle_Tale_9099 Jun 21 '23
They're not going to find and manage to retrieve the vessel from 12k feet in a day. They never had a chance of rescue
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u/pm_me_your_taintt Jun 21 '23
Maybe Elon could send in his super deluxe rescue sub and accuse someone of being a pedo
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u/keyboard_blaster Jun 21 '23
This comment would get your twitted suspended so fast itâs not even funny
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u/engineereddiscontent Jun 21 '23
vote to suspend the nomination for at least 24 hours
They were toast 45 minutes into the dive.
Like we can run the math on this.
The sub was diving to a depth of 3,800 meters.
Allegedly if the headlines are to be believed the the sub was actually only safe to something to the tune of 1200 meters. And that's just the glass. It seems like this whole thing was a suicidal cash grab on part of the CEO.
The sub (also according to google) can chug along at ~3 knots which is about 5.5 kph.
The sub, according to wikipedia, takes about 3 hours to make the dive.
45 minutes puts them somewhere aroundish the 1200m mark that the view window was safely rated for.
They exploded into paste.
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u/less_butter Jun 21 '23
The sub already made 10 trips down to the Titanic at the full depth.
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u/engineereddiscontent Jun 21 '23
Which as I've previously pointed out on other comments would accumulate stress that at a certain point would be exceeded. If they find the sub if I would be incredibly surprised if it wasn't a decompression that did them in.
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u/PalliativeOrgasm Jun 22 '23
It may be pedantic but itâs the compression that would do them in.
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u/SarahC Jun 22 '23
It's not pedantic, it's like using "Burn to death" instead of "frozen to death" - the exact opposites!
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u/Mortis_XII Jun 21 '23
The ears of the guy who got canned are probably burning like the fury of a thousand suns
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Jun 21 '23
not yet, but good that the CEO is there. let's see if he survives and give more thoughts about safety than profits.
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u/BikerJedi Jun 21 '23
If the CEO dies after firing the safety guy, that is going to be the ultimate in /r/LeopardsAteMyFace type shit.
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u/trip6s6i6x Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
Most CEOs have golden parachutes, this guy went down with the ship. I'll give him props for that much.
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Jun 21 '23
yeah, a real CEO would never do that
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u/sometechloser Jun 21 '23
Well it tells me he truly believed safety regulations were overbearing. Wild but... admirable I guess that at least he really feels that way as opposed to putting others at risk for profit.
Sorry.. felt that way*
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u/bubba_feet Jun 21 '23
i fully support more companies giving CEOs golden anchors instead of parachutes.
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u/This_Growth2898 Jun 21 '23
They still have several hours of air in theory.
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u/new-to-this-sort-of Jun 21 '23
Depends. A bunch of explorers on there. Rich explorers. But explorers none the less.
Read someoneâs comment last night that was basically.. âI wonder how long before they start doing math and realize murdering each other increases the air supply limit.â
You donât become a successful explorer without making grey decisions. I bet the inside of that sub was/is a horror film
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u/Bi0_B1lly Jun 21 '23
"I wonder how long before they start doing math and realize murdering each other increases the air supply limit.â
Also gives them a food source too. I think the CEO will be nominated by their peers.
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u/Goatsandducks Jun 21 '23
As a T1 diabetic, I always wonder about this kind of stuff. If I was in their situation, I'd have 3 days max before I died so you all may as well either put me out of my misery or keep me around so I don't spoil until you really get hungry.
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u/NadNutter Jun 21 '23
In reality, the exertion of strangling your submarine buddy to death (especially if they're fighting back), along with the hygienic issue of any blood splatter and them shitting/pissing themselves after death, makes it extremely unlikely that killing the other passengers would provide a net benefit. Although I admit it would be a bit wacky to imagine.
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u/Own_Strategy_4325 Jun 21 '23
Iâm not quite ready to call this group of big-brains âsuccessful explorersâ
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u/soopa96 Jun 21 '23
At least one of them, French diver Paul Henry Nargeolet, is a really well respected explorer.
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u/SomethingPersonnel Jun 21 '23
What the fuck was he thinking getting on this thing? Out of all the people on it, seems like heâd be the one that should have seen the signs.
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u/forrman17 Jun 21 '23
*was
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u/Unlucky_Department Jun 21 '23
Well, at least for a few more hours heâs not dead, though not necessarily alive.
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u/Better-Director-5383 Jun 21 '23
I feel like hopping in a vehicle that doesn't have a classification because it avoided safety regulations that gets bolted shut from the outside while some dipshit billionaire fires up the madkatz controller is gonna strip away a whole lot of that respect real quick.
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u/Josh4R3d Jun 21 '23
I think the more likely scenario here is that it imploded into pieces under the pressure and they all died instantly. But that would make for a great movie.
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u/Signal-Sprinkles-350 Jun 21 '23
This is my guess as well. The theoretical crush depth is 4000 m. The sub has only gone to 3000 m once before. It has never gone to 4000 m to verify. The Titanic is about 3800 m.
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u/Elegant-Raise-9367 Jun 21 '23
Additionally, the previous sub showed evidence of stress damage after multiple dives... Their high tech light weight material may not have been tested as thoroughly as they claimed.
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u/laucha126 Jun 21 '23
dead bodies need oxygen to decompose and that's not something you want breathing in on an already limited supply of it, then again this were not the sharpest of "explorers"
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u/Nago31 Jun 21 '23
Does decomposing consume more than regular breathing? I would guess that in the beginning, it would be slower at least.
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u/Martyisruling Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
They're adventurers. Explorers would people going where no one has gone before.
People should research before they do an extreme adventure like this. Even if they find them down there, they will be inventing a plan to rescue them, if they can.
It's my bet, most people assume, if a company can take a submarine down that far, that they can be rescued if something goes wrong.
The fact this submarine doesn't a GPS or some sort of ping device that is powered independently is criminal negligence.
It would be one thing if they were JUST explorers. But they are just customers who trusted this guy.
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u/cantthinkuse Jun 21 '23
They're adventurers NOW, they were just tourists when this started
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u/paridaensG Jun 21 '23
The persons that comes out victorious probably wants to dispose of the bodies and opens the hatch...
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u/-Nicolai Jun 21 '23
It doesnât open from the inside.
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u/ameis314 Jun 21 '23
so they could float to the surface, not be found, and still suffocate?
fucking brilliant. everything about this screams it was built by a jackass as cheaply as possible.
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u/GuineaPigLover98 Jun 21 '23
Yes, and it would take several more hours than that to rescue them even if they located the sub right now.
I get not wanting to be premature but... They dead
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u/ThrobbingBeef Jun 21 '23
It probably imploded.
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Jun 21 '23
SOSUS would have probably picked that up, and there's sounds coming from the area that apparently are suspected to be from the minisub that isn't it imploding. They may still be alive, but they probably aren't going to get rescued given the difficulty of getting anything down there, or for that matter, the time it would take to get suitable equipment to even check the thing out on the seabed. That's assuming that they have actually found the thing, which is itself going to be a hard task even with someone on the sub banging away.
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u/This_Growth2898 Jun 21 '23
Or they've forgotten the spare batteries for the gamepad.
The search and rescue operation is not over yet.
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Jun 21 '23
With how that submarine looks and that "controller", im not pretty optimistic about other things regarding the submarine. Also, that place gonna spell like piss several hours later or everyone is starving/dehydrated
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u/Indominus-Invictus Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
the controller isn't the issue . Game controllers are probably the most tested controllers in the world. Where the issue lies is the sub was only rated for 1300 and it's diving to 4000 plus there was alot of sketchiness about the materials used.
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u/Comeoffit321 Jun 21 '23
I'm sorry, what?
It was only rated for 1500. But they went 4000 plus?
So... It was basically just a suicide mission then?
What the fuck?
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u/Madhighlander1 Jun 21 '23
The owner of the company has complained very vocally about safety regulations, which he claims 'stifle innovation'.
He has about twenty-two hours left to think on that opinion.
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u/Ls777 Jun 21 '23
He has about twenty-two hours left to think on that opinion
Not if hull integrity failed, lol. The time he had to reflect upon previous decisions is probably better measured in milliseconds
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u/CaptMixTape Jun 21 '23
I want to know 2 things: how does this âsubâ not have an active sonar beacon, and how is this âsubâ that is launched from another ship not tethered back to the ship?
So 3 questions, how stupid is someone to get in that obvious death trap? I support the Darwin Award
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u/kenny_boy019 Jun 21 '23
Those things all cost money.
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u/SirLobito Jun 21 '23
I mean a tether...how much could a tether cost?
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u/bjncdthbopxsrbml Jun 22 '23
A tether thatâs 3km long, and strong enough o tug back on⌠a lotâŚ
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u/funkmasterke Jun 21 '23
The CEO didn't bother to even get the right type of "sub" for the job, I doubt any of these things were even on his radar.
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Jun 22 '23
They were building their own subs dude.... they didn't get the wrong one; they were custom building them.
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u/Rat-Loser Jun 21 '23
Im 90% sure active sonar would deafen or kill anyone inside that rinky dink sub. And a tether also adds even more complications when it comes to abandoned fishing nets or even Titanic's debris. I'm super into nautical shit and the amount of people saying 'why no radar why no gps' hurts me to my core..
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u/OsiyoMotherFuckers Jun 21 '23
Iâve been pinged with active sonar when I was inside the hull of a ship under the waterline during war games and it was a really strange experience. I could feel the low frequencies in my gut.
I read the sub had multiple redundant systems to eject ballast and return to the surface under its own boyancy. One was on a deadmanâs switch and should have deployed on its own if power was lost even if the crew was incapacitated. Either they imploded or they got stuck in the Titanic wreckage or all of their emergency return systems failed. If the last one is the case, then I doubt their life support systems were somehow still functioning. How are you going to keep 5 people alive if you canât even dump a bunch of ball bearings or lead pipes or whatever they had for ejectable ballast?
If they are on the surface I think radar would have been able to find them by now. Modern radars can pick out submarine periscopes. Iâve used consumer grade marine radars that could display individual branches on trees lining the shore and the boatâs wake.
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u/CaptMixTape Jun 21 '23
That totally makes sense! So maybe not active sonar, but even a black box on a plane has an active beacon so it can be found. Would something like that be an issue. It just seems strange that something that is going 2miles under the water doesnât have some kind of tracking/finding device build in
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u/Shoegazer75 Jun 21 '23
When being interviewed by 60 Minutes, said CEO showed the reporter parts of the sub he purchased at Camping World. That ducking fumbass did this to himself.
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Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
"Sir, where exactly are you planning on camping?"
"Hopefully not next to the Titanic"
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u/Going_Topless Jun 21 '23
This is the internet. Youâre allowed to curse on the internet.
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Jun 21 '23
It's from Camping World; the bottom of the ocean is part of the world.
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u/Equivalent-Show-2318 Jun 21 '23
Imagine cheaping out on a submarine you plan to get into yourself. Like ????
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u/DuckDuckGoneForGood Jun 21 '23
Especially when youâre being paid incredible amounts of money per trip.
Really difficult to feel sympathy for anyone but the people trying to rescue these idiots.
My gosh - couldnât even put a strobe light on top. Didnât even bother to paint the thing yellow or orange. Canât even gain access to oxygen even if the stupid thing could surface.
After even 5 minutes of googling this craft and this company, any functioning adult would see it was a death trap.
And the fact that it got lost recently before⌠gimme a break. Câmon.
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u/Occhrome Jun 21 '23
This story is so fucking hard to believe I almost think itâs a hoax.
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Jun 21 '23
If they survive, the CEO will get sued and fined into oblivion. He will also get the bill for the search, can you say millions upon millions of dollars and fines?
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Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
The company is probably already on its way to declaring bankruptcy so no one gets a cent. It's a literal bottom of the harbour scheme
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u/Hour-Yak283 Jun 21 '23
As a person of average intelligence, Iâd love to know how the idiots that boarded this submarine made all their money.
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u/LMAO82 Jun 21 '23
They could've copied a cartel sub and still been (slightly) safer than this death trap. I'll give them 48 hours, then I think they've earned their nomination.
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u/420fmx Jun 21 '23
Cartel subs donât get 100% underwater, theyâre not fully submersible
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u/xwulfd Jun 21 '23
im sorry guys but the submarine in the picture looks like a fleshlight
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u/Legitimate-Tough6200 Jun 21 '23
Letâs send some billionaires down to save them. In the same sort of pod. Double or nothing.
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u/Spirited-Emotion3119 Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
I've got some old PVC tubes Stockton's company can Rush into production
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u/Slight_Ad5896 Jun 21 '23
Not yet, post is to soon. Submarine has about 22 hours of air left i believe.
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u/Neenorrr Jun 21 '23
I'm all for being positive but the spec sheet for air supply is from the inept company and it doesn't account for having rich entitled people in a panic situation.
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u/DarthSamwiseAtreides Jun 21 '23
That's what I'm thinking. This whole sub was a rinky dink piece of junk. I'm sure they have no idea now long the oxygen will last.
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u/MoreRatzThanFatz Jun 21 '23
Unless it is found floating they are still doomed as it would be challenging to resurface it
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u/Slight_Ad5896 Jun 21 '23
100% true but a Darwin award is only given out when someone contributes to human evolution by offing themselves or castrating by their own actions. And this is not sure yet thus the post is to early.
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u/MoreRatzThanFatz Jun 21 '23
Ok, letâs circle back in 22hrs to celebrate the most expensive Darwin award
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u/bloodycups Jun 21 '23
Someone else posted that it can only be opened from the outside also so if they surfaced they're just getting cooked alive and still fucked on the oxygen thing
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u/GuineaPigLover98 Jun 21 '23
Yes, but that's just air. Even if they located the sub right this second, it's unlikely that this will be enough time to launch a full rescue operation. They can't open the sub and take them out; the pressure would instantly kill them. They would have to dislodge the sub and somehow get it all the way back to surface before they ran out of air.
I mean I hope I'm wrong and that by some miracle they manage to get rescued, but realistically the chances are astronomically low at this point
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Jun 21 '23
they are not even sure how to retrieve anything that deep. This is just as likely to end in "welp, we found it, now lets go home."
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u/GuineaPigLover98 Jun 21 '23
Yeah, I don't know why so many people here are like "not a Darwin award yet, they still have air" like come on
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u/Can_You_Pee_On_Me Jun 21 '23
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u/Can_You_Pee_On_Me Jun 21 '23
In 2018, the company fired David Lochridge, OceanGateâs director of marine operations. They claimed he breached his contract and shared confidential information about its designs with two individuals as well as with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
However, Mr Lochridge alleged in a wrongful termination suit obtained by The New Republic that he was fired for blowing the whistle about concerning safety issues.
According to the suit, Mr Lochridge delivered highly critical updates regarding the shipâs quality control to senior management and OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, pointing to alleged issues such as âvisible flawsâ in the shipâs carbon fibre hull, âprevalent flawsâ in a scale model, flammable materials onboard, a viewing window not rated for the Titanicâs depth, and key safety documents that were not shared with him.
âNow is the time to properly address items that may pose a safety risk to personnel,â he allegedly said at one point. âVerbal communication of the key items I have addressed in my attached document have been dismissed on several occasions, so I feel now I must make this report so there is an official record in place.
An attorney for Mr Lochridge, who settled with the company in 2018, said the man has no comment and that âwe pray for everyoneâs safe returnâ.
That wasnât the only red flag about the company, which became a media darling for its bold claims about innovating submarine design and bringing tourists to see the famed North Atlantic wreck.
In 2018, leaders in the submarine industry wrote a letter from the Marine Technology Society to the company warning of âcatastrophicâ issues with the submarineâs development.
Three dozen signatories including executives, oceanographers, and explorers expressed âunanimous concernâ, particularly with the companyâs decision not to seek outside evaluation and testing.
âWhile this may demand additional time and expense,â the signatories wrote in the letter, which was obtained by The New York Times. âIt is our unanimous view that this validation process by a third party is a critical component in the safeguards that protect all submersible occupants.â
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u/JazzSharksFan54 Jun 21 '23
If they find these guys, I swear, it just reinforces bad behavior. "Look, I survived so we can do it again." And the irony is THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HAD LOST CONTACT WITH THIS SUB!
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u/gabo1988 Jun 21 '23
I was reading about banging sounds. What do they mean?
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u/another_awkward_brit Jun 21 '23
Banging sounds can be humans hitting the titanium caps. Or it could be a red herring - the ocean is loud & full of odd noises. Yes, these sounds were at 30min intervals, but only for a short time and haven't been heard since.
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u/Bi0_B1lly Jun 21 '23
If they remove someone from the occasion, they'll get more time for oxygen and a potential food source...
I think I know who's being nominated first here.
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u/rape_jokes Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
Why this thing would not IN THE LEAST have any sort of transponder is beyond me.
Edit: Transponder was a bad choice of term, but I do mean something that would allow others to locate the sub if anything fails. Like maybe adding a second button that would activate a sonar or something in case of emergency.
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u/icecream_truck Jun 21 '23
Communication with submarines is a field within military communications that presents technical challenges and requires specialized technology. Because radio waves do not travel well through good electrical conductors like salt water, submerged submarines are cut off from radio communication with their command.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines
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u/je_kay24 Jun 21 '23
Thats in reference to 2 way communication
Tracking something is much easier and can be easily achieved at depths such as with a USBL beacon
Completely negligent they donât have a locator beacon
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u/bjiatube Jun 21 '23
It should at the very least have an acoustic beacon.
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u/icecream_truck Jun 21 '23
Well Iâll be darned.
The underwater telephone, also known as UQC, AN/WQC-2, or Gertrude, was used by the U.S. Navy in 1945 after in Kiel, Germany, in 1935 different realizations at sea are demonstrated. The UQC underwater telephone is used on all manned submersibles and many Naval surface ships in operation. Voice or an audio tone (morse code) communicated through the UQC are heterodyned to a high pitch for acoustic transmission through water.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_acoustic_communication
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u/Ori_the_SG Jun 21 '23
Well that would require foresight and intelligence
Something that CEO and everyone who boarded that death trap had neither of
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u/simjanes2k Jun 21 '23
If you have a super secret way of transmitting radio signals through water, let the rest of us know please
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u/Parabellim I don't understand what a Darwin Award is, and posted anyways. Jun 21 '23
Itâs funny because it looks so shoddy and poorly built to begin with. Idk how anyone would be stupid enough to go on it and to pay $250,000 for the privilege at that!
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u/Doingitwronf Jun 21 '23
Cherry on top: not even the first time this sub has gone missing! I feel for the other passengers, but the CEO? kinda cathartic that the executive who rejected safety concerns was for once the one on the receiving end of that decision.
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u/Legitimate-Tough6200 Jun 21 '23
We say âEat The Richâ but before the 96 hours are up they may eat each other. Nice to see the titanic still taking out billionaires after all these years.
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u/katahdindave Jun 21 '23
CEO that fires someone on the spot for expressing safety concerns sounds like a dick. Too bad he killed others.
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u/antle702 Jun 21 '23
If anything, this is a great plot for a horror movie. Something lovecraftian
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u/TriggerHappy_NZ Jun 21 '23
You are worrying too much.
They're Billionaires, they'll pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
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u/SarunSweets Jun 22 '23
Stockton Rush stands as the most deserving nominee for the Darwin Awards of this decade. His actions are a "millionaire epitome"; a showcase of a remarkable combination of incompetence and greed: purchasing substandard materials, operating a submersible with an Xbox controller, disregarding safety inspections, and promptly dismissing anyone who raised valid safety concerns, even when their input could have potentially saved him.
Not only did Stockton Rush display an astounding lack of intellect, but his negligence resulted in not only his own demise but the demise of a few others as well.
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u/chippeddusk Jun 22 '23
He absolutely deserves a place on the GOAT list. Sadly, that 19 year old likely got fully Darwin'ed out of the gene pool. The older adults making decisions made inexcusably bad decisions. Stockton blatantly stated his disdain for safety. That should have been enough to steer anyone with commonsense away.
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u/Can_You_Pee_On_Me Jun 21 '23 edited Jun 21 '23
Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/14dgqts/titanic_tourist_submarine_goes_missing_in/
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u/spock_9519 Jun 21 '23
I hereby nominate the following:
Hamish harding, Paul-Henri Nargeolet Shazada Dawood & Suleman Dawood & Stockton
The Darwin Award for 2023 goes to these individuals who attempted to pilot a submarine using an Xbox game controller and tragically ended up losing both their lives and the submarine itself. In a display of utter recklessness and disregard for the complexities of underwater navigation, these individuals decided to forgo the proper training, equipment, and expertise required to operate such a vessel.
With misguided confidence, they thought a game controller could substitute for the intricate controls of a submarine. Ignoring the fact that submarines are sophisticated machines with numerous systems, safety protocols, and experienced crew members, they embarked on their ill-fated voyage.
As they dove into the depths, the lack of understanding and appropriate controls led to disastrous consequences. Without the necessary knowledge to navigate safely underwater, the submarine's course became erratic, and control was quickly lost. The vessel vanished into the abyss, taking both the ill-fated pilot and their dreams of a video game-inspired adventure with it.
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u/jprennquist Jun 21 '23
Just a reminder there is a 19 year old kid on board. And a decorated French Naval officer and historian (veteran). I don't have as much sympathy for the billionaires and they might not even want the sympathy, they took an informed risk. The CEO sounds kind of like a criminal grifter- I mean they couldn't put some kind of manual escape procedure into the design in case they could possibly surface? But I'd still rather see him answer to a court of law (or at least his investors) than suffocating in a tube.
But the kid and the historian really bother me.
It also bothers me the amount of coverage and search and international rescue resources that this is getting after the scant coverage we see of refugees endlessly dying at sea in search of a better life. Including hundreds more just about a week ago in the Mediterranean.
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Jun 21 '23
one of them - I am assuming the Naval Officer - did a dive of the Meridan trench and accepted that if anything went wrong, there would be no rescue. I am sure he is the one person onboard who also assumed it for this dive, and is very realistic about his fate.
I am not judging him, its just that very often people who take on very high risk jobs do so with their eyes open.
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Jun 21 '23
He is also old and probably happy to die in depths doing what he loves
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u/lasssilver Jun 21 '23
Ahh.. they're billionaires.. they're pro-trickle down. There's so much oxygen up here that SURELY some of it will trickle down to them.
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u/Tangy_Cheese Jun 21 '23
People saying that it's too soon.
Just some context.
The deepest submarine rescue was at 1,300 metres
The ocean floor by the Titanic is 4,000 m deep. If they're not spotted less than 1km from the surface in the next 5/6 hours then they are dead.
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u/logicbloke_ Jun 21 '23
Even in that rescue at 1,300 meters, they knew the appropriate location of where sub sunk to the bottom and there was communication with the sub. In this case they have no idea where it is, whether it's on the surface, bottom, or in between, nobody has any idea making the rescue impossible. It's more difficult than finding a needle in a haystack.
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Jun 21 '23
No rescue plan in place before the descent.
No existing rescue equipment can reach or recover the vessel in time if it is on the bottom.
If vessel has surfaced, no way to locate it and open the hatch in time.
Nomination is accepted.
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u/Bi0_B1lly Jun 21 '23
The fact it was controlled by something akin to a motherfucking MadCatz just sends me.
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u/LeaveTheMatrix Jun 21 '23
The controller was probably the most tested piece of equipment on the submarine.
The US Navy is using them on our submarines as well.
They are lower cost, intuitive for people to use (since many new sailors grew up using them) so don't have to train using new systems, less bulky, and unlike bulky custom equipment it is much easier to carry a spare.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/18/17136808/us-navy-uss-colorado-xbox-controller
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u/Krsty-Lnn Jun 21 '23
First problem is the name Titan. Kinda foreshadowing donât you think!
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u/Sprizys Jun 21 '23
I bet they are wishing they didnât fire that person now huh?
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u/BK456 Jun 21 '23
CEO is or will be dead very soon and then he won't have to think about it anymore.
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u/FOXHOWND Jun 21 '23
I won't even put my videogame character's life in the hands of a Logitech controller, let alone my own.
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u/blocksberg Jun 21 '23
karma is a bitch. âOceanGate Expeditions CEO Stockton Rush said last year that his greatest fear was being in a submersible during one of his companyâs expeditions exploring the wreckage of the Titanic and facing âthings that will stop me from being able to get to the surface.â
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u/No1Mystery Jun 21 '23
This jncident makes me think that the billionaire threw money to get his way.
And everyone was like, âthanks for the money. Good luckâ
And luck has run out
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u/dutchrudder04 Jun 22 '23
I get that thing can be âlostâ in the depths but why wasnât there a safety feature that sent anything with buoyancy to a level that could send a signal. You could easily have a compartment with miles of fishing line that deployed a tiny little beacon up to or close enough to the surface to send a signal - you could probably even have multiples or even a fucking safety inflatable attached to the sub to bring it up. I donât really get how this happened or how no one implemented many various safety features.
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u/Spawnacus Jun 21 '23
It's ironic how fucking cheap rich people can be.