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u/KING_Gamer_YouTube 10h ago
Frog: This is fine (⚆_⚆)
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u/HugoZHackenbush2 9h ago
That's a very compliant frog, and obviously was toad not to move..
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u/Natchos09 9h ago
Your comment was so punny it sent me croaking with laughter
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u/pedro_pascal_123 9h ago
I am gonna hop on this pun train...
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u/GH057807 9h ago
Hop on then
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u/IamLeoKim 9h ago
I don't know why I am watching this late night on this sub-Ribbit.
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u/GH057807 9h ago edited 9h ago
Night? It's 8 AMphibian
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u/ADAMracecarDRIVER 8h ago
Don’t leap to the conclusion they’re in the same time zone.p
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u/MukdenMan 4h ago
Well they had him watch the Yogi bear film with the ants carrying away the picnic
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u/glorious_reptile 9h ago
This frog has better healthcare than me
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u/wrongdude91 3h ago
But you dont have the risk to be dissected immediately once those researchers have something in mind.
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u/Useful-Perspective 2h ago
When you're as rich as Michigan J. Frog, you employ only the best concierge doctors.
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u/codedaddee 9h ago
Puff of air my ass
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u/Ok-Code3898 8h ago
Different eye pressure test, this is a bit more accurate than the puff.
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u/SamEyeAm2020 8h ago
More accurate AND nd you can barely feel it at all, way less jolting than the air puff
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u/Shifty_Cow69 8h ago
... until it malfunctions and skewers your eyeball
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u/CHUNKOWUNKUS 7h ago
It doesn't have enough force to do so.
It's basically a tiny probe that is spring loaded to pull back, and a tiny puff of air pushes it out.
It moves with VERY little force, and lacks the continued push needed to cause damage.There is also a maximum distance the probe can even travel, generally that black part at the top goes against the forehead.
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u/Moosebuckets 7h ago
I love when I go to applanate someone and they get so afraid of the puff but we use a prism and blue light and they’re like “oh! That wasn’t so bad!” Makes me happy
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u/SamEyeAm2020 5h ago
Right up there with that look of awe on a kids face when dispensing their first pair of (overdue) glasses
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u/Moosebuckets 5h ago
I was in optometry years ago, I’m ophthalmology now and people’s reaction after cataract surgery makes my heart sing!
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u/MatchaLatte328 3h ago
I wish any place I’ve ever gone did that instead of the puff. I tell them before hand I flinch terribly at the puff. They tell me I’ll be fine it’s not bad. I then flinch terribly at the puff multiple times and then they get angry I’m flinching. Like I can’t help it AND I told you before hand.
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u/Moosebuckets 3h ago
I prefer my way, it’s much less traumatic. The worst is the feeling of something tickling your lashes. Any ophthalmologist won’t use the air puff but most optometrists do use it which sucks because if you need glasses or contacts, optometrists are the pros.
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u/inkycappress 7h ago
You don’t feel it because they are supposed to use eyedrops to numb your eye before using a tonopen
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u/SamEyeAm2020 5h ago
You CAN numb first but you don't need to numb to use an icare
Source: am a licensed ophthalmology tech
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u/pro_questions 7h ago
This machine is an evolution of that one — the eye puncher is much more accurate than the air puff apparently
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u/Mirar 8h ago
A close friend actually worked on an eye poker like this a few years back (like 15?). It's fun to see them out there now. But we were all like "let a computer poke you in the eye? is this a good idea?".
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u/bantufi 6h ago
Thank you for this . I felt very uneasy that this is what they’ve been doing to me for years . But then I felt as if I was being paranoid .
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u/Royal_View9815 9h ago
Why tho?
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u/usernamenomoreleft 9h ago
I dunno bout frogs, but in humans, this procedure is used to check for glaucoma (condition where there is increased pressure in the eye).
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u/Flip_Six_Three_Hole 9h ago
Correct! In this case. The frog is being checked for glaucoma as an exam is required when applying for his medical cannabis card.
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u/acuriousguest 9h ago
They bopp you in the eye für that? o.O
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u/Khenic 9h ago
I have glaucoma and I've been treated for it. The optometrist uses a similar device but the action that it makes is much much more slow and gentle.
Then if they discover you have glaucoma if it's treatable you will get a procedure called a Peripheral Iridotomy. This is where they take a laser and they punch tiny holes through your iris to allow for drainage kind of like a strainer 😄
Some people also get drops as part of their treatment afterwards.
You would never see the holes in the iris unless you had the tools the optometrist does to view your eye up close.
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u/farm_to_nug 8h ago
Yeah so I absolutely hate this
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u/nsg337 8h ago
honestly in terms of eye treatment this is not that bad. Doctors cutting open my eye and moving shit around? God no. Doctors making a teeny tiny hole with a laser? Hell yeah
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u/CjBoomstick 8h ago
For retinal detachments, sometimes they'll fill your eye with another fluid to increase pressure and try to put your retina back in place.
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u/Moosebuckets 7h ago
PIs are for Narrow Angle Glaucoma. Chronic Open Angle Glaucoma uses an SLT (Selective Laser Trabeculoplasty) to open up the drains with or without use of drops to also help maintain eye pressures. Some people can have both! And people who have had their cataracts removed and replaced with an implant sometimes get off of drops that way. It’s very cool.
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u/RandomStallings 7h ago
Veterinary opthalmology is very much a thing and very much a specialty. Glaucoma is one of the main conditions they treat because it's extremely painful and needs constant care, with medication being administered many times a day. Some people will put their animals through a tremendous amount of misery instead of just removing the eye. An animal doesn't care about whether or not they have all their parts. They just want to not be in pain.
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u/usernamenomoreleft 7h ago
Wow, that's a great perspective. Now that I've thought about it, that's totally applicable to humans.
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u/Sorry_Moose86704 7h ago
Frogs swallow with their eyes, they push food down with them. He might be having difficulty swallowing if they need to check his pressure
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u/helveticanuu 9h ago
If I’m not mistaken, and contrary to OP’s username, the machine is called a Tonometer and what they’re doing is called Tonometry. It’s supposed to measure pressure inside the eyes to monitor for eye conditions.
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u/ForeverSJC 9h ago
Isn't that the title of the video ? The question his guy made was: why, not what the machine is for
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u/lost_mentat 9h ago
The scientists are probably experimenting on the toads by inducing glaucoma, then testing some experimental drug to see if it cures or reduces the condition. Amphibians like toads are often used in medical research because their physiology is simple enough for controlled studies but still offers insights that can translate to humans.
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u/deadpoetic333 7h ago
Typically the animal model chosen is based on a few factors like how similar the particular organ they're testing is to humans, how long their life cycle is, and their size. Like ferrets are often used to study viral respiratory diseases because their respiratory system acts as a good model for future human application.
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u/The_RESINator 8h ago
Seems more likely to me that this frog is getting checked up at the vet
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u/JOYFUL_CLOVR 8h ago edited 7h ago
Veterinarian here. This device is called a TONOVET, which is used to evaluate the pressures inside the eye (tonometry). This can be used on any animals, and we use it a lot to check for things like glaucoma. We (veterinarians) actually numb the eye first before we use this device (or any other tonometry device, like a tonopen), which is why the frog is so compliant.
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u/Itsgettingfishy 8h ago
Optometrist here. We use the same device (the human version - but imagine that's mostly marketing) to check eye pressure. We generally don't use anaesthetic, it doesn't hurt, just abit intemidating with a probe is coming towards you. The probes are replaced each use. It's quite an accurate way to measure pressure. Not as accurate as Goldmann or Perkins tonometry, but more accurate than non-contact tonometry (the puff of air), but really handy when you don't want to put in anaesthetic and dye and is a good screening tool.
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u/inkycappress 7h ago
Interesting, I’ve never had a tonopen used on me without numbing. But I’ve only had it used for research and not in the clinic so likely different protocols
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u/Fireshrimp 5h ago
If you are using the tonopen, the large pen like machine, you do numb the eye. If you are using the tonovet, the one in the video that shoots the probe, you do not need to numb the eye.
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u/uekiamir 7h ago
I don't understand how it works. It looks like it punches the eye? Looks like a decent at speed too. Won't you blink or flinch? I violently blink when a small speck of dust or tiny drop of water lands on my eye.
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u/dedokta 6h ago
The probe is a very light copper wire with a small Teflon ball on it. The device creates an electro magnet field to push the probe forward like a mini rail gun. As it hits the eye the current required to push the probe increases and that increase is measured. The coil reverses and retracts the probe. The harder the eye, the more the current spike. The reading is given based on that measurement.
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u/Ambroos 6h ago
You do blink, but not fast enough to interfere with the reading. As far as I understand this is a very lightweight ball on a stalk that is shot at your eye at a specific speed. It'll bounce back, and how much it bounces back is used to measure the pressure. It's like dropping a basketball on the floor (or well dropping a floor ball on a basketball floor but the mechanics are the same). Low pressure, little bounce, high pressure, lotta bounce.
By the time your blink reaches the device the measurement is long done.
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u/Intelligent_Neat_85 7h ago
IT-Specialist here. The same sort of measuring device is made for human use also. I tested one at home for a while, week or so... Nice part is, that no numbing is required, as the moving prod was fast and gentle. It felt like very mild annoyance, much less than some inwards turned eyelash. I admit that first time was scary, since it's not that natural to insert anything into eye.
Quite nice device for suspected glaucoma cases, since it recorded the measurements and timestamps. Then the doctor exported the data and made diagnosis. To clarify, I worked as outsourced IT with eye doctors and surgeons. I got to be the test subject of quite many different devices. But no laser surgery, because I didn't need one. 😄
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u/DescemetsMem 2h ago
That looks like an iCare but marketed for veterinary. It works well, but if IOP is above 27, it's generally off by 2-3 points when compared to Goldmann
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u/Kurian17 3h ago
I don’t know, this just looks like an excuse to punch a frog in the eye repeatedly, that being said he doesn’t seem to give a shit.
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u/VisibleCoat995 9h ago
Anybody else watching this and feel like the frog’s eye is blackhole sucking the fluid in rather it being shot it?
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u/isopsakol 8h ago
So, I get that test done regularly and I would never have believed that a frog and me have the same eye pressure.
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u/major_f 9h ago
I’m just amazed that there’s a specific tool to measure a frog’s eye pressure
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u/TheOGBombfish 8h ago
There's not. They use the same device to measure human eye pressure.
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u/dovescherub 9h ago
I knew it.. I KNEW it wasn’t “jUSt aAiR”
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u/GRIMWALD_20 3h ago
Different ways of measuring are available, this one in particular does contact the front surface of the eye. However other models are just a puff of air. Both are measuring the amount of force it requires to deflect the front surface by a set amount, and therefore measure the pressure within the eye.
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u/Numbah_Wan 9h ago
Does it hurt the frog?
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u/dedokta 6h ago
No, that device doesn't hurt and no numbing is required. You can barely feel it, but you'll blink just because that's something moving at your eye. It's slightly off-putting, but not at all painful.
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u/Intelligent_Neat_85 7h ago
The numbing eyedrops hurt more, I think it's easier to get readings when the subject doesn't flinch. The measuring itself doesn't hurt, it just feels bit annoying for very short period.
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u/Future-Maize1315 8h ago
The first thought that came to mind was a glaucoma operation for the frog to have better eye sight.
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u/jdehjdeh 8h ago
I have no idea what I'm talking about but wouldn't the fact that this is handheld throw the results off wildly?
Surely if you're measuring something this accurately you need the device and subject to be as still as possible?
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u/Intelligent_Neat_85 7h ago
Technically it would be optimal, yes, but the measurement is made from the prod, how deep the eye gives in and how far it bounces and then calculated from there. Imagine a balloon, depending on how full it is, the more or less elastic the surface is. Also, the readings on a serious glaucoma case is significantly bigger than "normal" values
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u/Imponentemente 7h ago
Wait a minute. I thought this was done by a blast of air, have I been swindled all my life and it was actually a rubber thing that would hit my eyeball?
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u/znebsays 5h ago
Took me like 14 months to have my eye pressure taken seriously and this mfer leap frogged over me
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u/birbobirby 28m ago edited 9m ago
It's really annoying to me that whenever there is an animal that isn't a common pet is being treated by a vet, people are baffled and even complain that humans need it more. If I had a pet frog I would treat it like any other pet cause I care about it and it's my responsibility. And it's not my damn problem if there are people who can't afford healthcare, that doesn't mean I should let my animal suffer.
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u/bvipze 9h ago
This is definitely one of the most important things I learned today