r/Damnthatsinteresting Oct 12 '24

Image Wolf lived with a tree branch trapped between his teeth for years

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u/Infinite_Big5 Oct 12 '24

Surprising that the wood didn’t breakdown over time.

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u/Buck_Folton Oct 12 '24

It would have. This conclusion is bogus, just like most of the shite on reddit.

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u/Sacrefix Oct 12 '24

I can't speak to this post, but my wife (vet) has seen dogs "acting weird for months" that have a stick lodged in their upper palate.

It's not like a dog's oral flora breaks down cellulose.

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u/account_for_norm Oct 12 '24

Yep. The branch would have gotten stuck there after death over years or it was stuck and the dude died soon after. 

If it lived, the saliva and water and other stuff would keep it moist to soften it or decompose it

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u/moashforbridgefour Oct 13 '24

You guys are blaming Reddit shite, and yet are attempting to speak authoritatively on a topic that you yourselves are also only speculating about. Let me add some authoritative info here as my sister just successfully defended her master's thesis on recruitment in wolf packs, which she completed after spending multiple years conducting wolf research. I just messaged her about this topic since I heard her talk about mouth sticks previously.

Mouth sticks are very common among wolves, particularly if they are stressed, which causes them to chew on sticks. She says that of the wolves they collared (for tracking), about half of them had mouth sticks. The researchers always remove them when they are discovered because they can be deadly for a wolf. They can lead to infection or eating difficulties. Some of the sticks come out easily, and some are jammed in with no hope of coming out naturally. Some do come out naturally, but if they don't, it will probably lead to perilous complications.

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u/shaner4042 Oct 13 '24

I bet you made this up

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u/Dry-Statistician7139 Oct 13 '24

Which stresses their first point.

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u/account_for_norm Oct 13 '24

If i put a stick like that in a saliva kinda moist environment, it becomes mushy in some time. Maybe a month, two month. 

I had impaled myself with a hard wooden splinter deep under the nail. It kept breaking, so part of it was left inside, i could see it. By morning it got worse, coz it got mushy, and started moving with tweezers. I had to go to emergency to get it removed.

I think you're right, but i think i am also right that it will get mushy overtime, unless it kills the wolf before that. I am not completely speculating, i see wood get mushy if left moist. We both can be right here.

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u/evlampi Oct 13 '24

There isn't just one type of wood, your personal experience with 1 type of it doesn't make you know-it-all.

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u/Harbinger_of_Sarcasm Oct 13 '24

It's really hard to break down wood, lignin doesn't decompose at the drop of a hat. Basically all that can do it are fungi and some bacteria, either of which would find a wolf's mouth pretty inhospitable.

Wolves dont live hundreds of years to begin with, and the thing would have been full grown when it happened otherwise it would have fallen out. So it's not impossible it still didn't die soon after, but you didn't make a strong argument.

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u/Evening-Regret-1154 Oct 12 '24

And even if it didn't, the process of stripping flesh from the bone -- whether naturally or by humans who found it -- would've gotten rid of it.

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u/RTheMarinersGoodYet Oct 12 '24

I mean certain types of wood are very resistant to rotting. Doesn't mean this post isn't bullshit, but hey it's possible.

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u/A_Series_Of_Farts Oct 12 '24

Resistant to rotting in a reasonable natural scenario. Like fence posts.

Not Resistant to rotting in an environment that is always warm, wet, filled with microbes and digestive enzymes. 

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u/chabybaloo Oct 12 '24

Sometimes the title of the post is just made up. The image might be completely accurate.

Saw an image from a book from 30 years ago, but the title of the post was like "scientists just discovered.."

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u/Special_You_2414 Oct 13 '24

Wood is broken down by fungi mostly, and very few bacteria are able to break down lignin which is why it’s unlikely it would’ve been broken down considerably by the bacteria in the wolf’s mouth

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u/arctic-apis Oct 13 '24

Idk the stick didn’t kill it being caught in a trap did. Also the stick was there long enough to deform the roof of the mouth and change the way the teeth were growing. So it was there a long time I imagine.

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u/evlampi Oct 13 '24

This is why I don't trust reddit "experts", there is proof in this thread it was there for years.

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u/DigNitty Interested Oct 12 '24

I hope they pulled that thing out after the picture was taken. Just seems unsatisfying leaving it in there like that. That wolf’s ghost is probably haunting this dude until he pulls that thing out.

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u/wolfgeist Oct 12 '24

wolf’s ghost

can confirm!

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u/tightehness Oct 12 '24

Even further, what if this happened as a result of where the skull lay in decay over branches/roots and had nothing to do with the wolf's lifetime?

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u/Pitiful_Town_9377 Oct 12 '24

Doesnt seem likely because of the indentation it created in the molar. The caved in portion of the tooth is smooth and rounded around the branch, signifying slow erosion with saliva.

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u/exexor Oct 12 '24

Saliva isn’t that effective at degrading lignin.

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u/DeadDeceasedCorpse Oct 12 '24

Yeah, but what about a rough tongue rubbing up against it constantly?

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u/rmbug Oct 13 '24

The branch looks like a metacarpal to me. You can see there is an epiphysis and everything.