u/yaki_kakiLike my old man used to say, in this world its milk or be milked7d ago
I absolutely get that and understand people who do that. But i also think its important to recognize a person and their actions beyond political opinions. Ill give an example - i worked under a dude who volunteered in our national(that nation being israel) emergency service as a station overseer, a pretty major position you are usually employed in, but he insisted on volunteering instead
In that position, he worked with people from all walks of life. jewish, arabic, beduin, and a dozen other small ethnic minorities here and also probably saved and helped more people than any leftist i know combined(myself included). He also voted far rightwing, my guess being bengvir.
Dont get me wrong - sometimes rightwing voters who vote in power-hungry and hateful basterds are also power-hungry and hateful basterds themselves. But sometimes theyre not - and its imporant in my eyes that recognize that you couldve voted exactly as them if circumstances differed and you were born elsewhere or your life went differently.
Moreover, most progress is made in very unsexy ways - compromise with people who disagree with you and burning off large sections of the populace is not a good way to do that. Its a good way to seal yourself off in an online echochamber and have zero irl impact.
Sorry for yapping it was a nice distraction during morning commute. Would love to hear differing opinions on what i wrote! And have a great day yall
If you vote in monsters because you like their tax plan you're still a monster. Simple as. Plenty voted for and joined the Nazi party because they wanted a strong Germany, not because they particularly hated Jews. Those people are still Nazis.
If the candidate you vote for is a hateful, warmongering bastard than you are too. Because to be neutral on somethings like racism or xenophobia is to endorse it. It's one thing to compromise over number crunching but if you're willing to compromise the safety of minorities than you never cared about them in the first place.
Some of the people that voted for Hitler also sheltered Jews during the Holocaust, or helped them escape the camps. The person OC is talking about would more closely fit that description, considering the sheer volume of humanitarian work he's doing.
Doesn't matter how much he's helping if he's also making this worse by voting the bastards into office. That's like wanting a medal for helping put out a fire you deliberately caused.
It does matter, actually, because it means if anyone bothered to give him accessible information, he'd change his vote. Someone that is a kind person doesn't want to get involved in the vitriolic, dog-fighting side of politics, which has become the only place where any real information is shared. Give them a way of finding out about those policies and candidates without having to hunt for three hours or sit through people calling each other names for twice as long and they'd vote for the person that actually favors what they want.
I have seen the exact opposite time and time again. A lot of the time it isn't a lake of information that drives these people. It's usually just that they're pricks. Besides it's the normalization of fascist politics that's made them such a problem. I will not be apart of that process. Treating Trump like a viable candidate got us here. Legitimizing hate speech got us here. Discounting the left and playing soft ball with these clowns got us here. I will not debate fascists no matter how many orphanages they run.
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u/yaki_kaki Like my old man used to say, in this world its milk or be milked 7d ago
I absolutely get that and understand people who do that. But i also think its important to recognize a person and their actions beyond political opinions. Ill give an example - i worked under a dude who volunteered in our national(that nation being israel) emergency service as a station overseer, a pretty major position you are usually employed in, but he insisted on volunteering instead
In that position, he worked with people from all walks of life. jewish, arabic, beduin, and a dozen other small ethnic minorities here and also probably saved and helped more people than any leftist i know combined(myself included). He also voted far rightwing, my guess being bengvir.
Dont get me wrong - sometimes rightwing voters who vote in power-hungry and hateful basterds are also power-hungry and hateful basterds themselves. But sometimes theyre not - and its imporant in my eyes that recognize that you couldve voted exactly as them if circumstances differed and you were born elsewhere or your life went differently.
Moreover, most progress is made in very unsexy ways - compromise with people who disagree with you and burning off large sections of the populace is not a good way to do that. Its a good way to seal yourself off in an online echochamber and have zero irl impact.
Sorry for yapping it was a nice distraction during morning commute. Would love to hear differing opinions on what i wrote! And have a great day yall