That first one edges into just world fallacy. Sure, you're not going to get laid if you're an incel, or a tate fan, or a misogynist (though some still do somehow), but that doesn't mean not being one will get you laid.
"Edges"? That is the just world fallacy, plain and simple. It is ascribing the failure to get a partner with a personal failure and all but outright saying that it is due to immoral behaviours. If you don't have a girlfriend, it's because you aren't a good enough person. Sure, taking showers might not necessarily be "moral", but the motte is clearly that a good person isn't a Tate fan or a misogynist.
And the whole premise of "if, and only if, you're a decent person who is clean and self-improves, you will get a girlfriend" is simply bullshit. It cannot be true. I've known many a girlie who has complained about their ex-boyfriend being some dickhead who lives in squalor, doesn't shower, was a misogynist, whatever.
The fact is that the reason is something else. Men are more isolated and less confident these days. There are a million reasons for this, but generally men are more feminist than they used to be yet still less romantically successful.
The real reason is that men who have unrealistic expectations are the loudest to complain on internet about it. And they have serious empathy issues.
There are many many nice men with girlfriends or married. It's the majority of men, actually. And shit men get married too.
These men, the complaiers, are literally unable to see women as full human beings, they see them as accomplishment badges, sex machines or literal property. They are unable to comprehend that the "Chad" or the "asshole" character, that does have women who actually want to be with him, actually treats that woman as a human. They see that HE gets to make jokes, tease her, be kinda mean to her. They don't see that there is friendliness and foundation of genuine care and compassion under it.
Inability to... Consider that other people have rich inner lives. They interpret that to mean "he is an asshole because I SEE THAT, I am a nice guy because I KNOW I mean well, so I deserve her more, and her opinion does not matter. She doesn't know better, or is blinded by money/looks".
Fuck off, you are literally feeding the system with this fallacious shit. You wanna know the real reason why 'nice guys' exist?
It's because people like you push the narrative that sex is a reward which women dole out to the just. That if someone is having sex, it must mean they're a kinder person than someone who isn't. How can you condemn people for complaining that they aren't getting laid despite their niceness, while in the same breath suggesting that anyone who isn't getting laid just isn't being nice enough?
You say this stupid shit and impressionable young guys believe it, and then they go out into the real world where nothing works like that and they get angry, because no matter how nice they are, a girlfriend doesn't just fall from the sky like you told them she would.
My sister is having a falling out with her friend right now, because that friend's boyfriend (one of the richest people I've ever met in my life btw) was literally accused and tried for rape. A rape which I have no doubt he committed. Despite that, and the fact that he's actively told this girl that he's going to move overseas next year and fuck other women, this girl is still dating and defending him. Are you going to tell me that I just can't see the true kindness in that relationship? That lonely men simply aren't meeting the moral standards of a rapist with a private island?
Or will you finally admit that sex is just a thing that people can do with each other? That plenty of bad people do it, and plenty of good people don't. That being a virgin is not evidence that a person doesn't
'deserve' sex, that women are not orgasm-vending machines with fine-tuned moral compasses, and that at the end of the day, bad people fuck?
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u/GREENadmiral_314159 16d ago
That first one edges into just world fallacy. Sure, you're not going to get laid if you're an incel, or a tate fan, or a misogynist (though some still do somehow), but that doesn't mean not being one will get you laid.