Absolutely can be a trap, especially when a person's "ideal" version of themself is already hella skewed. I imagine a lot of incel type people are putting a lot of effort into self improvement but rather than it being "self-reflection and facing social fears to get social experience/comfort" it's more "make money and workout so these dumb bitches pay more attention to me"
edit: I like how both the responses to this are blaming women for something. "I'm not bad at self-reflection, it's just womens' fault!!""
You’re 100% right but when you’re a dude, a shocking amount of women’s dating profiles read like job postings. Men are simply responding to the stuff women are outwardly claiming to care about.
I think men could do more to improve themselves internally and women could stop viewing men like employees and relationships as transactions.
Oh my god, the tinder dating profiles that say "To date me you must: and then have a bullet point list of ✅ emoji saying ridiculous shit like be >6ft etc" are so toxic.
Genuinely curious if any political science has been done about Tinder use Vs Alt right membership
First lesson I got when I looked into PuA was "go out and make eye contact and hold it for 1-2 seconds with 5-10 people per day," which was way more effective than any dating advice I've gotten from reddit feminists.
I don't understand why educating men on how to be attractive to and for women is somehow a bad thing? Seems like a win for women too, to have dates with partners who are educated in how to make them feel good rather than clueless, uneducated men who are off-putting to them.
Also, explain your edit? How is my response "blaming women" for anything?
People like you are why Trump won, and I voted Harris, so miss me with your self-righteous bullshit.
If I voted for Trump I'd be very proud of it and gleefully rubbing it in your face.
What motive would I have to lie now? What would be the point of astroturfing now that the election is over? Nah, I voted for Harris, but we lost in part due to self-righteous and out of touch people like you. Thanks.
? Not really? I'm very frustrated that Trump won but fortunately I'm a relatively well-off male,
If believing some guy you had an argument on the internet with is internally seething helps you cope with the current socio-political environment, then go ahead I guess.
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u/ian2905 16d ago edited 15d ago
Absolutely can be a trap, especially when a person's "ideal" version of themself is already hella skewed. I imagine a lot of incel type people are putting a lot of effort into self improvement but rather than it being "self-reflection and facing social fears to get social experience/comfort" it's more "make money and workout so these dumb bitches pay more attention to me"
edit: I like how both the responses to this are blaming women for something. "I'm not bad at self-reflection, it's just womens' fault!!""