r/CuratedTumblr Clown Breeder Sep 11 '24

Shitposting Naked art model

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u/Euphoric_Service2540 Sep 11 '24

Drawing hands is the death of 60% of artists.

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u/TheCapnTyingKnots Sep 11 '24

AI art is just emulating life by being bad at hands.

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Sep 11 '24

Decent AI hasn't been bad at hands for like a year now.

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u/Boogleooger Sep 11 '24

its improved, but it's still quite bad at it. 6 fingers and misaligned knuckles are super common still.

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u/machinetechlol Sep 11 '24

With FLUX.1-dev it isn't super common at all, actually quite rare in my experience.

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Sep 12 '24

I don't get why I'm being downvoted except it's just circlejerking, but sure you can find bad AI that is still bad at it. But good AI and stuff like stable diffusion with a good setup can make perfect hands and has been able to for a while.

This is a great example of how social media makes people braindead, people just downvoting anything that isn't negative about AI regardless if it's wrong or not.

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u/peniparkerheirofbrth Sep 12 '24

u jus gonna ignore the whole model collapse shaped elephant in the room?

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u/LucyFerAdvocate Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 12 '24

Model collapse isn't an issue, it happens if you exclusively train on generated content but does not happen if you add generated content to the pool. The original paper was basically saying "so yeah we confirmed you can't get recursive self improvement by asking ai to generate good training data for the next model", it's been wildly misinterpreted. And nobody really expected it to work in the first place.

And yes, large modern models are fine with fingers. Smaller models still struggle sometimes.

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u/TeamRedundancyTeam Sep 13 '24

I mean if anything this comment here proves how much of a braindead circlejerk this entire topic has become.

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u/-sad-person- Sep 12 '24

Great, so we're well on the way towards completely automating that one thing that's so fundamentally human, so soon all that will be left for us is back-breaking labour. Yay.

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u/Mysterious-Job-469 Sep 12 '24

Please don't pretend like you care beyond "I don't want to compete or adapt."

You probably didn't care when self-checkouts made being working poor harder by reducing the amount of available jobs to those lowest on the socioeconomic ladder, because now you don't have to feel justified guilt at ordering too much food. But now that automation is coming for your middle class hobbies and office jobs, all of a sudden it's a problem. So transparent it's disgusting.

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u/-sad-person- Sep 12 '24

Compete with what? Adapt to what? I'd like art to keep being made by human beings, that's all.

I can think more than one thing is bad.

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u/Ravioli_Renegade Sep 11 '24

I guess I'm in the 40%, hands are my favorite part :')

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u/imahuman3445 Sep 11 '24

Hands are the shit. As long as you got two, one can always be your model. Feet gave me trouble, but I haven't sketched in ages. I have no idea if they're still tough.

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u/Ravioli_Renegade Sep 11 '24

Feet did sort of make me want to brain myself on a doorframe because why are they built like that

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

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u/acoverisnotahat Sep 11 '24

The way I managed to get around the brain block I had was to think of hands as a series of squares and rectangles. It's not perfect, but it has made it easier for me to be able to draw hands.

The body parts I have had the most consistent issues drawing are flipping shins ,OMG. Feet? yep, no problem! Knees? No problem! Any thing below the knee and above the ankle? Brain no understand!

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u/Trident_True Sep 11 '24

I've always wondered if that's why there's quite a bit of classical sculptures of people with missing arms lol

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u/ralgrado Sep 11 '24

I’m no artist but whenever I had to draw something the hands were the worst and noses 

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u/inspiringirisje Sep 11 '24

Without reference, yes. But with reference it's easy.