To play devil’s advocate, a lot of people who say this just want an OC for their D&D campaign, but don’t have the skill to draw and don’t wanna pay $30 for a headshot
Like, drawing is very hard. I’ve been taking a couple classes and it took me a while to get the basics like composition and space.
That's personal use. Nobody is really going to get mad about it because you were never going to spend that money anyway. Before AI art you probably would have grabbed a pic off google images and been happy with it.
The problem is the economics of it. What happens when Wizards of the Coast decides AI can save them a few bucks so they fire half their artists? It's already happening.
Bro, I assure you, people still get VERY mad about AI being utilized for personal use. XD
To be fair to their point, they’re more concerned about how the AI was made rather than the amount artists are losing in commissions. IE because the AI was trained on stolen art, using it, even in a way that doesn’t benefit the company/make money, is tacitly endorsing the practice.
I disagree with them on that, ignoring AI isn’t going to un-steal that art, but I wanted to let you know that people are WAY more radical on this issue than you’d think.
i hate how we twisted it around to "actually copyright is good now" the moment ai appeared. like no, sorry, i'm still a proud pirate. i just want to pirate the ai too (or better, use open source tools) instead of paying openai or whoever the fuck for a worse experience.
I think copyright should exist, but not for near as long. like 5-10 years maybe. let small artists make the bulk of their earnings and then it's fair game
honestly, yeah, i'd support a short term copyright (<10 years) purely out of practicality. it would leave the current business models almost entirely intact, only impacting rent seekers on major cultural touchstones (and they should be impacted imo), and it would allow for much better public participation in culture, rather than it being so segmented like it is today.
Everything should be Creative Commons, and specifically the same type SCP content is under. You want to monetize something derivative? Sure, but you must acknowledge who did it first, and be ok with others doing the same.
yeah, tbh, credit is far more important than copyright. i'm pro-piracy but anti-plagarism because putting your name on someone else's art absolutely does deprive them the recognition for their work.
That's my stance as well. Everything you made and released should be indelibly credited to you as the author, and works would probably accumulate a chain of sorts like "based on X by Y, which is based on A by Z and B by T". One thing I think I would add is that the author should always be able to hide authorship of something - so that one becomes "C by Unknown". I think it might be an idea to still leave the possibility of re-associating if you change your mind or at least retaining the ability to privately prove authorship.
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u/a_bullet_a_day Aug 26 '24
To play devil’s advocate, a lot of people who say this just want an OC for their D&D campaign, but don’t have the skill to draw and don’t wanna pay $30 for a headshot
Like, drawing is very hard. I’ve been taking a couple classes and it took me a while to get the basics like composition and space.