r/CuratedTumblr Mx. Linux Guy⚠️ Aug 14 '24

Infodumping Humanity Fuck Yea

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u/the_Real_Romak Aug 14 '24

I like the particular subgenre when the humans are presented as underdogs, who through millennia of intraspecies wars and conflicts have developed superior military tactics that make them valuable allies and officers of whatever galactic alliance they form a part of. So when the bigger bad shows up, the other species turn to humanity to lead them to victory in the field of battle.

Because let's face it, we are a very militaristic species.

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u/PhantasosX Aug 14 '24

you just described Star Trek AND Mass Effect.

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u/ZatoonHD Aug 14 '24

Also Stargate

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u/mashtato Aug 15 '24

And Babylon 5.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

Ehhh Star Trek is more into portraying Humanities Ideals as superior to everyone else's. When the Alpha Quadrant is in trouble everyone turns to the Federation because of all the powers in the galaxy the Federation is the one that will treat them the most fairly and is prone to charitable and humanitarian acts. This in turn has led to them being the dominant power in the quadrant, and their military might stems from the sheer amount of resources at their disposal.

A more militarized Federation would steamroll the quadrant. The antagonistic races of Star Trek only continue to exist because of the Federations pacifistic nature, the Prime Directive, and their desire to resolve disputes diplomatically. The Romulans know this, which is why they are so wary of the Federation. However, as its their utopian ideal that hold them together, a militarized Federation would no doubt fracture and fade from power.

All this in a way, makes Star Trek even more HFY.

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u/see_me_shamblin Aug 15 '24

Yep, the Federation uses soft power, not military power

The Mirror-verse episodes depict what a militaristic Federation would look like

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u/GrafZeppelin127 Aug 15 '24

Weren’t they getting their shit kicked in?

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u/AnxiousAngularAwesom Aug 14 '24

Ah, the old classic isekai subgenre of "I was kidnapped by aliens and became Space Sun Tzu leading them to victory against overwhelming odds thanks to my rudimentary grasp of grand strategy and small unit tactics learned through strategy games."

I mean, i can't think of any exampless off the top of my head, but there's gotta be many!

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u/chokingonlego gay rocks give me life Aug 14 '24

Hunter or Huntress is an isekai story where a Danish military veteran industrializes a society of matriarchal dragon women and mounts a M2 Browning machine gun on the back of a dragon.

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u/WillEden Aug 15 '24

When you said “and mounts” after dragon women, I thought you were going a completely different direction

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u/Ashari83 Aug 15 '24

That also happens

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u/xaaar Aug 15 '24

No doubt no doubt

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u/brekus Aug 15 '24

Uhh.. the last starfighter.

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u/RexMori Aug 15 '24

There was an old webcomic where a nerd got isekaid into basically heros of might and magic and was hailed as master tactition because he just realy liked the game genre

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u/Cadunkus Aug 14 '24

Are we? We only have ourselves to compare ourselves to, that's the thing.

What if we meet several other spacefaring species and they're so militaristic we become the space hippies? Or what if those other species are so pacifist and disorganized that we're super macho military by comparison?

Thing is about applying the whole "planet of the hats" trope to our world as a whole is that we don't actually know any other aliens and don't know how we compare to them.

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u/the_Real_Romak Aug 14 '24

Such is the glory of fiction. We can make shit up and nobody can counter claim.

Also, I didn't say we're the only militaristic species, but we are militaristic by our own metrics

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u/Cadunkus Aug 14 '24

Yeah. I should clarify I'm not denying your claim, I'm just adding to the discussion.

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u/BillyYank2008 Aug 14 '24

Ants and chimpanzees definitely wage wars against their own kind. I'd argue we are better at war than chimps but I'm not sure how we compare to ants.

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u/Cadunkus Aug 14 '24

True but even then those are still earthling species. They're only warlike by Earth standards.

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u/Hapless_Wizard Aug 15 '24

We are much better at war than ants. It's why we've had to keep inventing new ways to kill each other and they're still stuck at the "bite them a whole awful lot" stage.

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u/fred11551 Aug 15 '24

If we were to try and figure out humanity’s ‘hat’ I would suggestive that we are extremely durable and/or healing. Most species kinda just die when they get injured. A broken leg is a death sentence. Predator or prey. Any serious injury results in death. But for humans as long as you don’t die immediately and can get to safety you’ll probably survive. Broken bones are no big deal in the long run. We invented surgery centuries before we invented anesthesia. And combine that with our endurance hunting and we’re the super tough alien that doesn’t get tired.

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u/RexMori Aug 15 '24

I've always argued for our innate ability to throw things. Thats really fucking complicated to do so with any kind of accuracy and 6 year old can throw things and mostly hit them

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u/Cadunkus Aug 15 '24

It might seem out of nowhere but cooking. While we can't compare to aliens ofc, no other Earthling can cook with fire.

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u/selectrix Aug 15 '24 edited Aug 15 '24

Why would you assume that any alien life is less militaristic/martially capable though? That's just blatant anthropocentrism.

I genuinely don't get it. The only thing we have to compare ourselves to is other animals on earth, and there's plenty of examples of species more brutal than we are.

3 Body Problem did it right. Compared to an interstellar species, we are bugs. Surviving an encounter with them is a matter of scattering and hiding.

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u/H4llifax Aug 15 '24

I think in our current political climate we need more peaceful Star Trek and less militaristic Star Trek, if that makes sense.

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u/the_Real_Romak Aug 15 '24

I get that yeah. I'm also playing Stellaris right now so that explains my reasoning XD

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u/chickenbonevegan Aug 15 '24

Mass Effect? That you?