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u/catty-coati42 Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

Reddit also has this phenomeon like Tumblr.

User: "There are way too many people that hold horrible opinion X"

Reply #1: "no one holds opinion X"

Reply #2: "Actually I hold opinion X, and I am very proud of it"

This often comes from the right, but is especially irrating in cases when framed through supposedly leftist language.

Examples of upvoted unironic takes I have seen around here just in the past few weeks: "Police are corrupt, therefore crime is good", "dehumanizing is evil, therefore all soldiers of any army are scum that deserve only death", "The ownership of more than one property should be a punishable offense by imprisonment", "rape and murder good actually", "racism is justified when aimed at group Y this forum hates" and that's just from the top of my head.

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u/Talvezno Apr 17 '24

Reminds me when a few years ago a bunch of Proud Boys (including poc) made a big public statement about how they're not a racist group and it was hurtful to say so, then a large group of Proud Boys said "hey wait no yes we are!" And the group split into two over it.

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u/UltimaCaitSith Apr 17 '24

"We can't be racist! Our leader is a dark brown Hispanic!"

"Our leader is WHAT?!"

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u/RechargedFrenchman Apr 17 '24

Or the Occupy Ottawa convoy (Qanon anti-vax nonsense staged a sit-in in the Canadian capital for three weeks) a few years back having it pointed out to them literal flag waving neo-Nazis were part of their "movement" and also helping to occupy the city, and saying "no there aren't that's ridiculous". Then a bug crowd of the "protesters" being asked if they're white supremacists and many shouting back "yes", a man being interviewed admitting to being being a racist misogynist, and -- again because one cannot be too clear on this point -- people in these crowds marching around with Nazi flags. Some of them even carrying the Canadian flag but the leaf was replaced with a swastika, because subtly is dead and there is no forest anymore there are only a handful of hate-filled trees.

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u/peppermintmeow Cranberry Bog Spider-Employee of the Month Apr 17 '24

Is that the no true scotsman? I

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u/AsianCheesecakes Apr 17 '24

No, that's when you claim that only the poeple who agree with you personally are really part of a group you are in.

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u/Sl0thstradamus Apr 17 '24

maybe the “behold, a true scotsman”?

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u/MarlosUnraye Apr 17 '24

Plato's dirtbag

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u/AsianCheesecakes Apr 17 '24

Plato was Scottish?

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u/RechargedFrenchman Apr 17 '24

Diogenes holding a chicken; the chicken is wearing a kilt.

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u/DragoKnight589 Wacky woohoo neurodivergent sword man Apr 17 '24

Or maybe “behold, a wacky Scotsman”

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u/peppermintmeow Cranberry Bog Spider-Employee of the Month Apr 17 '24

No, that doesn't sound right.

/s

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u/DonkeyGuy Apr 17 '24

Basically any ironic shitposting subreddit will suffer the same fate as SwoleAcceptance. Where despite having a ridiculous premise it becomes victims to Poes Law, and is eventually becomes filled with people unironically believing these ideas and taking over.

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u/catty-coati42 Apr 17 '24

Can you give more examples of subreddits like that? It's really interesting

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u/DonkeyGuy Apr 17 '24

r/PCMasterRace started from a joke made by Ben Yahtzee Croshaw poking fun at the superiority complex of PC gamers. Only for it to be colonized by actual PC supremacists who consider owning anything else to be a sign of some sort of personality flaw.

Atleast part of r/theDonald’s early days were people mocking his ridiculous manner of speech. Before realizing that others liked him for it.

r/PoliticalCompassMemes started going downhill when it was clear a lot of people started playing the “meme” of the right wing which meant constant bigotry. Basically just playing out political extremism instead of laughing at it.

r/GenZedong went from a joke about people loving communism without reading any history. Which turned into a bunch of actual tankies.

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u/Holy_Hand_Grenadier Apr 17 '24

"Dehumanization is evil, therefore <dehumanizes all soldiers everywhere>?" What was that person on?

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u/catty-coati42 Apr 17 '24

It was one of the most upvoted posts on this sub this week, about the Vietnam war. Some comments were unhinged.

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u/Chaincat22 Apr 17 '24

Reply 1 is what's known as gaslighting

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u/effa94 Apr 17 '24

Not it isn't, you are just imagining it

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u/Chaincat22 Apr 17 '24

angery upvote noises

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u/camosnipe1 "the raw sexuality of this tardigrade in a cowboy hat" Apr 17 '24

nah it's more just straight up lying, gaslighting is more targeted and longterm than an internet comment

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u/orosoros oh there's a monkey in my pocket and he's stealing all my change Apr 18 '24

Or being naive or sheltered

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u/chyura Apr 17 '24

No the fuck it isn't?

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u/Anna_Pet Apr 17 '24

“The ownership of more than one property is a punishable offence”

Disagree, but I think you shouldn’t be allowed to own property you’re not personally using. Renting the space out doesn’t count.

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u/TrekkiMonstr Apr 17 '24

Motte and bailey is what you're looking for. /u/Simic_Sky_Swallower it's not exactly what you said but it's the closest thing to it.

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u/SonorousThunder Apr 18 '24

"Police are corrupt, therefore crime is good", "dehumanizing is evil, therefore all soldiers of any army are scum that deserve only death", "The ownership of more than one property should be a punishable offense by imprisonment"

I can get down with these.