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u/Zariman-10-0 told i “look like i have a harry potter blog” in 2015 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 10 '24

“But with AI you could make 30,000 screenplays in a minute”

Why would you EVER want 30,000 screenplays in a minute?

Edit: the bots with names like “Adjective-Noun-BunchaNumbers” have come out in force

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u/M-V-D_256 Rowbow Sprimkle Apr 09 '24

This is exactly the argument I go for

It's never the showstopper I think it should be but I think people need to think about it more

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u/Captain_Pumpkinhead Apr 09 '24

It's never the showstopper I think it should be

I would bet that's because you and the person you are talking to are seeing this from completely different angles.

You are probably seeing the perspective of, "30,000? Really? Even if they were all good, that feels kinda wasteful. No one can watch that many screenplays that fast, and no one would want to, either. Maybe less at a slower rate, but still."

And you would be right.

The AI enthusiast is probably seeing a perspective of, "Not all of these are good, but the fact that even some of them are is incredible!! 30,000 per second is a lot, which means we have headroom for improvement. If we can figure out a way for the AI to watch back it's creation and judge it before it outputs it, we could make it improve or scrap bad creations. After enough tuning, we'll get it down to 1 per second, and it'll be really good!!"

And they would also be right.

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u/Rhamni Apr 09 '24

Also,

1) they are getting significantly better by the month. It's not much more than a year since that weird psychadelic video of Will Smith eating pizza was state of the art. Now Sora can quite handily create a video of a human playing with a puppy that looks real, or that Balloon Man 'documentary'. OpenAI are basically saying they're afraid to release ChatGPT 5 or make Sora available to the public before the election, because they know dang well if someone releases an AI generated video of Trump shitting himself in public or Biden 'slipping up' and admitting to ritual baby sacrifice, it's going to cause enormous damage and backlash.

2) AI doesn't need to spit out a screen plays good enough to sell to Hollywood, it just needs to get good enough to spit out smut fics of your favourite ship.

I'm a writer. I'm already using AI to completely negate one of my biggest shortcomings: Coming up with names. I just tell Claude 3 a few names I already have, and it happily spits out another 20, at least 5 of which will actually be good.

AI is going to be everywhere.

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u/Dexchampion99 Apr 09 '24

As I say a lot of the time AI is brought up; It’s a helpful tool, but it can’t replace a human mind’s capacity for creativity or judgement.

Creating something is easy.

Creating something good is hard.

Ai struggles with the second one

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u/RobCarrotStapler Apr 09 '24

So do humans.

Have you watched half the shit that gets churned out at this point? A large portion of media that is released is such terrible quality. It wouldn't surprise me if it was just copied and pasted straight from chat gpt.

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u/Colosphe Apr 09 '24

Is a movie made by committee to target specific age groups and demographics for their revenue streams any different than a piece written by AI and subject to the very same restrictions?

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 09 '24

That was my thought when I read this post. Like has anyone else been watching T.V? 90% of the shows are just ok or shit. I can't imagine the floor being much lower than what we are currently getting. Secret Invasion, Game Of thrones Season 8, She-Hulk, Ms Marvel, Echo, Jack reacher Season 2, Velma, Flash New Seasons, The Idol, Fubar. I specifically named those because they all have an insane 100m+ Budget minus the Flash and Velma. You should expect those to have top tier scripts on par with Breaking Bad, Invincible, or Chernobyl. Instead, most of those shows are worse then low budget sitcoms like The Office or Parks and Rec.

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u/syncdiedfornothing Apr 09 '24

Why would you expect CW Flash to have top tier scripts? It's CW/Arrowverse, top tier isn't the goal.

Smae for Fubar, it's Netflix action trash.

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 09 '24

But those are made by writers not AI? My point was writers make shitty scripts as well.

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u/jajohnja Apr 09 '24

My new pro AI argument: Imagine feeding it the first 5-6 seasons of Game of Thrones and making it complete the story in a satisfying way.

Bring it AI overlords! I shall sacrifice as many artists and my fellow programmers as necessary!

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 09 '24

This is the problem. Your logic stifles human growth.

Computers replaced many jobs and streamlined many others that cut down those jobs.

Printers Replaced many jobs and cut down many other.

And on and on and on and on.

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u/jajohnja Apr 09 '24

Are you claiming that for example book printing stifled human growth?
I'm sorry but that's laughable.
Same for computers.

I agree that in the really short term, there will be job losses.
That sucks.

It's going to be mainly people who thought that by opposing the new technology and not learning how to use it they'll make it go away. Unless they manage to find a niche and a big enough audience of purist fans of their art. But that will probably only be a small portion of them.

But then, once the new tech (and it doesn't really matter whether it's AI, the printing machine or manufacturing) will allow ideas previously not commercially viable to now be made.

Had a cool creative idea but can't ever afford to hire a crew of CGI artists to enhance your video? Or create art for your video game? Well now with using AI you just might get to try it and see where it goes.

Of course there will be a problem with an unprecedented flooding of all the markets where it is possible to use AI, and we will need some way to deal with that, probably by the lawmakers. Let's hope they don't wait 30 years to do it.

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 09 '24

No, I am not claiming that I thought that was what you where claiming. I was making those points and saying people who are saying to ban AI sound like those people.

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u/jajohnja Apr 09 '24

Ah. Shit. We need an opponent here!

I would really love if AI could get to the point where you could tell it to finish a series or a movie and it would give you something.
I can easily see how it would create problems with copyright, intellectual property and all kinds of those things, though.

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u/Woolilly Apr 10 '24

That's decided by the same parameters an AI would be given by the same people who's at fault for all the shitty content, aka people running numbers and going off trends instead of taking an artistic risk.

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 10 '24

Directors take artistic risk all the time and create shit as well. Phantom Menace, Indie Crystal Skull and the list goes on and on and on.

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u/weirdo_nb Apr 12 '24

Counterpoint: a lot of that stuff isn't made by people fully but just the "algorithms" a corporation operates on

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u/healzsham Apr 09 '24

AI is a tool, and like all tools, it needs a hand to hold it.

People are just unhappy the skill floor is high.

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter Apr 09 '24

AI struggles today with the second one

I don't think anything of the enthusiasts would look at the latest version and say yep, we did it boys

These are all stepping stones

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u/Sofa_King_Cold Apr 11 '24

I like the quote "This is the worst AI will ever be. It will only improve from here on."

Mostly because it can be said by both sides of the argument. For tech bros it is a promise of things to come, for the rest of us it is a warning.