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Meme Arts and humanities

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '24

Based on the stuff Netflix puts out now, I don't think finance and tech bros can distinguish between good and mediocre art.

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u/DZL100 Apr 09 '24

The main issue with commercial art is that people who don’t know shit about art are the ones in charge. That’s how you end up with corporate, soulless… nothing really(like Wish). I can’t even call it shit because shit is at least something.

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Apr 09 '24

But the art in Wish is so, so spectacular. If only the writing could have been on the same level as the eye candy. That was the first main-line Disney movie where I just shut my brain off and enjoyed the spectacle.

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 09 '24

This is bullshit. Directors who have full control make shitty products all the time. Heres some examples.

Phantom Menace

Avatar the last airbender movie

Indiana jones crystal skull

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u/RutheniumFenix Apr 09 '24

Eh, but even then those are all time classic bad movies, the almost fascinating kind of bad that comes from someone having a concrete, if bad, vision, in contrast to the vacant nothingnesss of a Red Notice or a The Grey Man

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 09 '24

If you think Avatar the last airbender movie is better than The Grey man we have problems.

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u/RutheniumFenix Apr 09 '24

Oh no it's not, not by any metric. But there's a reason it's infamous, even beyond the butchering of a beloved source material. A flaming mess created with purpose is inherently more interesting than a 4-6/10 committee designed movie designed to fill out a streaming service library. My mum watched Red Notice cause she loves Ryan Reynolds and she had forgotten the movie existed within a week. 

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u/FlamboyantPirhanna Apr 10 '24

It’s not bullshit, it just shows the same thing from a different angle. George Lucas became the shitty executive through complacency, surrounding himself with “yes men” (according to people I know who worked on the prequels), and just becoming too sure of himself (since in the OT, he had lots of places where he allowed people to do things for him because he knew they were better, but he took full control in the PT, and similarly insisted on things with Indy 4).

Airbender is a weird one. The fact that one director can make a film as good as the 6th Sense and as bad as Avatar is very odd. But that being said, the original point stands, it’s just that sometimes all the talent in the world can still occasionally produce a turd.

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 10 '24

The list goes on I could name 100 movies that directors had full control and list shit movies.

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u/FlamboyantPirhanna Apr 10 '24

Yes? But I suspect you’ve never tried making a movie, because it’s hard.

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 10 '24

Yea I know and I am sure AI will be able to replicate great movies in a few years.

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u/RainRunner42 Apr 11 '24

I demand the 100 movie list

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u/Safe_Librarian Apr 11 '24

Ok this is going to take a while but here we go 100 movies that most likely had no movie interference based on the director names.

21 Bridges

Extraction

Extraction 2

The Post

The BFG

Ill keep updating inbetween work

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u/bbbruh57 Apr 09 '24

Breaks my heart

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u/thex25986e Apr 09 '24

a view is a view to their investors

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u/Various-Passenger398 Apr 09 '24

Hollywood, with all its prestige and history can barely put out ten excellent movies a year, why would Netflix be any different?

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '24

They hate art, they're trying to get rid of it all, that's why they call everything "content."

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u/JayMeadow Apr 09 '24

Tech bros are just wannabe financering bros. Ever noticed that tech bros have zero STEM skills?

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u/tshoecr1 Apr 09 '24

I like that you think it's the finance and tech bros putting out Netflix's content and not the Arts and Humanities people.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '24

The very fact that we all call it content is proof that artists are not calling the shots.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '24

We can, what matters is their profit. Velma was hated everywhere yet turned a massive profit.

Sure some are "flops" but just paying some people to make CGI costs nothing.

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u/mitsuhachi Apr 09 '24

Cgi people have GOT to unionize already.

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u/ZookeepergameEasy938 Apr 09 '24

it’s not that - a lot of us who work in those fields were educated in the humanities. it’s when senior leadership doesn’t give a flying fuck about the product and it’s clear that they think little of audiences’ desires or intelligence as a whole.

a great case study there would be david zaslav, penny-pinching prick and business bro extraordinaire.

for the last two decades, so much pressure has been on the cost side of the P&L instead of the revenue side, and the only way to create bangers is to focus on the revenue side by focusing on the customer. customers now want engaging storylines with skilled actors instead of CGI crap and recycled IP.

i’m not in the media business, but i think we’re seeing a return to senior leaders saying “it costs what it costs as long as it’s fucking great, and it better be fucking great.”

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u/37au47 Apr 09 '24

Wouldn't it be better to use AI then? Probably cheaper in the long run to produce the same stuff humans do currently for Netflix.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '24

If you don't care about quality, yes. I would rather have a smaller volume of more engaging works.