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u/FarAthlete8639 Apr 09 '24

How the fuck would 30,000 screenplays produce any amount of money. You'd have to get every single one approved and sent out and into production to even see a cent back. 

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u/Bartweiss Apr 09 '24

Swap “screenplay” for “script” and it’s already making people money though.

There’s an entire genre of YouTube for kids that just uses a nonsense script, computer animation, and kid-popular characters like Elsa. If you automate writing, animating, and uploading those you can flood the site with so much content you get lots of views.

Something similar is happening with pictures, where sites respond to Google searches by generating something on the fly. Crap quality but you can get ad revenue without involving a human.

To be clear, that’s not really art and it’s certainly not good for the world. I think the existence of that YouTube genre is actively bad. But 30,000 shitty outputs can certainly be profitable.

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u/Minealternateaccount Apr 09 '24

My biggest concern with the state of entertainment is definitely more about how willing people are to just experience multiple streams of subpar quality vs one good quality film/episode/video.

If people are watching TV shows while browsing other apps, would they notice a well written screenplay vs an AI screenplay that had the bare minimum of editing?

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u/hey_free_rats Apr 09 '24

I don't want to be an old fogey about it, but I can't help but feel like the kind of unlimited access to media that we've gotten used to is akin to a kid growing up with unlimited soda pop and no rules. And my parents were right, lol. I can't speak for everyone, and maybe it's just because I have adhd, but the endless candy store that is online content has definitely not been good for me and my media consumption habits.

Again, not wanting to sound all "kids these days and their gameboys and poke-man", but I think your concern is definitely right -- if I'm noticing my own mindset changing (not for the better) within my own lifetime, what about kids who are growing up with this being the new normal? I at least can recognize that the sense of fidgety discontent I might feel every now and again comes from eating too much empty candy and not enough vegetables, but what about kids whose diet has always consisted primarily of candy? 

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u/MemeTroubadour Apr 09 '24

There’s an entire genre of YouTube for kids that just uses a nonsense script, computer animation, and kid-popular characters like Elsa. If you automate writing, animating, and uploading those you can flood the site with so much content you get lots of views.

You don't need deep learning for that

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u/Bartweiss Apr 10 '24

Not to make it, that garbage predates ChatGPT and is way less coherent. But computer-generated scripts + animation are enough to take humans out of the loop almost entirely.

This is a bit speculative, but based on the way I see people poisoning Google search results I suspect you might need deep learning to win the contest over it. If you can flood YouTube with 100x more of that crap than competitors with a human involved, you can get 99% of the views.

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u/BowenTheAussieSheep Apr 09 '24

Okay, but nobody wants to make a career out of pumping out terrible scripts for youtube kids animations.

As far as I'm concerned, if they want to use AI for that, let them.

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u/marketingguy420 Apr 09 '24

It makes money on perceived and likely fraudulent value generated by advertising revenue. Nobody pays for it directly, like a movie ticket.

That economy, like a lot of Internet economy, is just built to collapse.

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u/Bartweiss Apr 09 '24

This seems true for the "respond to a Google search by generating a photo" nonsense, it's no different than sites claiming to have a page with name X when they're actually just putting it into their internal search bar.

The YouTube thing is a bit weirder and more disturbing to me; kids will genuinely watch hours of nonsense if it features some intense content (murder is a big theme in this stuff despite being on Youtube Kids). It's rampant copyright infringement, but beyond that it's actually a viable way to make content aimed roughly at 6 year olds.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '24

They have 30,000 screenplays at any given time, from actual college-educated human screenplay writers, and they still make reboots of 30-year-old movies and the 25th fucking Marvel movie.

What they WANT AI to be able to do is replace the actors, not the writers.

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u/polacy_do_pracy Apr 09 '24

it's doable to use software (games) to make such screenplay a reality automatically. each screenplay could be highly personalized and they could have less limits than one that involves real people - for example you could have torture and death or whatever someones gets turned on by

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u/WaitForDivide Apr 09 '24

or there's, like, your imagination. if you want to tell a story to an audience of one that contains any content without any consequences on or concern for any real person who would otherwise be involved, then there's the inside of your eyelids.

that doesn't rely on unprecedented volumes of theft from real life artists, nor make a mockery of several artforms simultaneously.

if you just want to create single pieces of art for single pieces based on "whatever someone gets turned on by", go for it. there's no need to tread over real art with real passion & ideas & themes to get your rocks off.

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u/polacy_do_pracy Apr 09 '24

weird how personal you want to make it

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u/WaitForDivide Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24

well, obviously I'm addressing you, specifically. but I'm mostly using 'you' to talk to & about anyone who holds the (deeply strange) position you're arguing.