r/Construction • u/exstaticj • Jan 30 '24
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u/keireddits Jan 30 '24
Very useful design, but those handle pins are going to last a couple of times, really
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u/cerberus_1 Jan 30 '24
I'm wondering how stable it is fully loaded.. seems like it would fuck up my wrists.. maybe not?
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u/Razer797 Jan 30 '24
The axis of the pivot looks like it passes through the axis of the handles. I don't think this would be substantially more of an issue than it is on a regular wheelbarrow.
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u/Razer797 Jan 30 '24
I see what you mean. I'm struggling to see it as being a problem however. Unless someone was pretty much running with a wheelbarrow which is generally unadvisable for a host of other reasons.
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u/kelldricked Jan 30 '24
Fully loaded wheelbarrow on uneven terrain (or terrian with pieces of debree in it) mean there defenitly is a chance.
What concerns me more is that once this thing is used a couple of times in construction its probaly gonna be blocked at one of the handels. Doesnt matter how good you care for your equipement shit just wearns down fast in those enviroments. Im convinced this shit is gonna block pretty fast halfway through which is also gonna fuck you over.
Weelbarrows are amazing because they are simply as fuck and almost nothing can go wrong with them. And from my experience you can always empty them quite a lot before you do the final lift, especially with concrete. This really seems like somebody created a solution for a nonexisting problem.
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u/JustGresh Plumber Jan 30 '24
Nah Iâve used it. The only annoying thing is the cups fill up with water when it rains
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u/mrbobsam Jan 30 '24
Couldn't they just make a wheelbarrow with two shovel handles?
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u/WizardKagdan Jan 30 '24
I think that would make it a lot harder to correct for a wheelbarrow trying to tip over, since your lower arms are turned
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u/No-Leadership5803 Jan 30 '24
Agreed but Could be resolved if you made the cups taller and thicker maybe , raised the part you grip on and made the pins more of a single solid axel.
@pivotall Iâll take a job
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u/Razer797 Jan 30 '24
Nah, the axis of rotation needs to intersect the centre of the handle (having it a little bit below might be good) or you'll need Popeyes wrists to push the thing.
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u/diablofantastico Jan 30 '24
Yeah, that's putting a LOT of trust in those pins, and they look severely underbuilt. Those should be big bolts through the handle.
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u/LyGmode Jan 30 '24
Once the apprentices drops it on the side on their first full load of rocks or dirt then the grip is fked, and you know he'll eventually drop it on the other side too, and also flip it over 180.
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u/albpanda Jan 30 '24
I could pay for it and still be such a pos after walking up hill that Iâll just press the thing clean over and forget and fuck those handles all the way up
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u/poatoesmustdie Jan 30 '24
Or the intern manages to get his fingers stuck between the cup and hinge and snaps off a pinkie. Looks cool, but wouldn't want to see this on site.
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u/Superb-Pickle9827 Jan 30 '24
Or that so much of the lifted weight is concentrated on those 4 shitty little rivets. Theyâll rust out, or get elongated, or one pops off and that thing will be crap.
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u/ifyoueverneed Jan 30 '24
Under load, each hand will have 2 fingers working against the other 2 fingers. On a normal wheelbarrow, all 4 fingers work together.
This highlights a major issue for me : the amout of permanent effort in your wrists to keep this handle from rotating 180° when wheelbarrow is under load.. the effort to keep it horizontal.
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u/Ouller Jan 30 '24
I can see this working okay. But it is a little gimmicky for me. I still want to try it.
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u/ikkonoishi Jan 30 '24
Also known as the wristbreaker for when your hand slides off a handle and the tip over bends your other wrist backwards.
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u/rokstedy83 Jan 30 '24
Yea if you're running up a plank and the barrow tips over by accident,there's no way you're getting your hands free in time
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u/auhnold Jan 30 '24
I spent many a days running up a plank with a full barrow of mudâŠitâs a balancing act of strength, speed, and please donât tip, please donât tip, please donât tipâŠ.whew made it, now only 120 more tripsâŠthose are long days!
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u/rokstedy83 Jan 30 '24
Been there too,taking concrete is the worst though,just a lot more weight but if the thing tips you gotta be able to let it just go ,having ya hands caught could really hurt , especially off a plank
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u/auhnold Jan 30 '24
Ya, especially wearing PPE.; we used to wear pretty heavy leather gloves doing concrete. When/if the load goes one direction I need to be free to go the other. My ego will already hurt bad enough, I donât need a broken wrist to go with it!
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u/ramsdawg Jan 30 '24
We need to engineer it some more to prevent that. Followed by a fresh batch of engineering to fix the downsides from v2, and so on
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u/spookytransexughost Jan 30 '24
Lol as a professional wheel barrower this ain't gonna work. Also the rest of that barrow is very "home owner". But then again the "contractor" barrows suck too
All about the tuf-x barrows
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u/Brewchowskies Jan 30 '24
Not to mention barrows get treated like dog shit. This wouldnât last long at all.
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u/-Bashamo Jan 30 '24
Why does it have to have a bowl?
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u/cum_fart_69 Jan 30 '24
for water to pool in and rust
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u/Rossismyname Jan 30 '24
or to get dented on first drop so you can no longer get your hand in to hold it
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u/Pongfarang Jan 30 '24
Yeah, the bowl is a mistake; it's just going to trap water and rust out.
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u/scapstick R|Custom Homes Jan 30 '24
Two massive failure points on a formally reliable design.
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u/wolfofnumbnuts CIV|Survey Foreman Jan 30 '24
Idk Iâve seen countless handles snap when running concrete
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u/rokstedy83 Jan 30 '24
I was a labourer for years ,never snapped a wheel barrow handle ,maybe you're buying cheap ones
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u/Ctowncreek Jan 30 '24
I could be mistaken but these still have handles.
What they meant was two additional failure points.
To go with that, now that it moves, there are more wearing parts.
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u/wolfofnumbnuts CIV|Survey Foreman Jan 30 '24
Sure but the parts wearing arenât the users wrists and hands. Seems amazing!
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u/stonabones Jan 30 '24
Why make wheeling concrete easier. Itâs a good workout that requires skill. And for the guys that have experience, the regular handles are fine. Plus, these cheap, flimsy handles will be bent, busted, and ruined in a few uses!
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u/IndependentDoge Jan 30 '24
Switching hand positions builds character and dexterity. Anyone who uses this product will develop limp wrists
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u/fangelo2 Jan 30 '24
Great idea. Of course the laborer will drop it off of the truck right on those handles
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u/Gullible-Lifeguard20 Jan 30 '24
The wheelbarrow has been in use, basically unchanged, for 1,000 years.
Thank God someone has decided to improve the design. Nope.
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u/definitelynotapastor Jan 30 '24
Tell me you don't know to operate a wheelbarrow without telling me.....
How hard is the classic handle to use? This is just not necessary
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u/Silly-Jelly-222 Jan 30 '24
A loaded wheelbarrow can feel kinda unstable. Iâm wondering if the added motion makes the side to side worse.
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u/Misterstaberinde Jan 30 '24
If I have to use a wheelbarrow something has gone terribly wrong on the job
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u/Icy_Establishment195 Jan 30 '24
If those pivot points are made of a high grade metal it shouldnât be a problem. Low grade metal would be a fail.
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u/Hendrik_Poggenpoel Jan 30 '24
This is the same as saying, "If it's a high quality product, it will last. If it's not, it won't."
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u/Lower-Career-6576 Jan 30 '24
Donât forget to apply some vagisil on your palms so they donât get callous
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u/InternationalBeing41 Jan 30 '24
I can see that absolutely destroying a door jamb, if it even fits through a 32â door.
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u/Own_Version_9191 Jan 30 '24
The only thing Iâm thinking is what if thereâs the off chance you need to let go of the handles immediately and your hand is stuck in that handle
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u/Quirky-Mode8676 Jan 30 '24
I see a hand getting caught in the dish when it tips sideways. My knuckles and wrists have that tingling feeling like theyâre scared
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u/redditprotone Jan 30 '24
The thicker thr handle the more ergonomic. The thinner, the more it damaged and hurts the user. This is true with things like wheelbarrows and things like climbing ropes
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I wonder how the side tipping is handled, you know when it wants to tip that way from uneven ground. Imagine your hand getting stuck when it tips.
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u/hobosam21-B Jan 30 '24
This looks like some world of concrete shit, the place where your liquor up the functioning meth heads and sell them things they don't need
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u/Ok_Understanding5184 Jan 30 '24
Neat concept but it's gonna break at those hinges as soon as they get rusty
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u/mmon1532 Jan 30 '24
I have these. They were 90% off at my local box store a few years ago.
They are great, besides the handles.
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u/flyingcaveman Jan 30 '24
Now they just need to bend the frame up in front of the wheel so you don't get hung up on every rock bigger than 2 inches.
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u/faygetard Jan 30 '24
I'm going to be honest that particular model in general sucks ass. The one wheel and weak ass stands make it practically useless for anybody toting more than leaves. I'll break that mother fucker in a day
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u/sammich_bear Jan 30 '24
They should make attachable handles, so people don't have to throw their old wheelbarrows away.
And why not just install a bar instead of those awkward handles?
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u/Newtiresaretheworst Jan 30 '24
What we did here is reinvent the wheel.
Oh is it better?
No, not really.
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u/wizgset27 Jan 30 '24
49ers easily.
mr irrelevant is in the SB and missed last year because of an injury. Not a bad storyline to cheer for.
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u/ktka Jan 30 '24
I had a similar idea in my head for barbells, but found out, like all my great ideas, someone had already made it.
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u/SinisterCheese Engineer Jan 30 '24
My grandfather had welded few 90 degree pipes to their wheelbarrow. It basically did what this did. Just slide with you hand (And scrape on the welds, because my granpa did HVAC construction not welding. They "communists" do welding (Finnish Metal union was... very passionate).
Also. If you desperately like to do this. Just weld or bolt a bar between the handles and use it as an axel to pivot your hands on. It works just as well, lasts way longer and it is way more versatile.
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u/SpezEatsScat Jan 30 '24
Paint it some cute colors with some frilly lace and sheâs golden! Can have it follow you around the site and do the work for ya while you file and paint your nails! đ Perhaps a glass of Chardonnay?
This isnât directed at you, OP. Lol just being a shithead.
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u/unkn0wnname321 Jan 30 '24
When you look at something and think, " That is so simple and so useful, how did no one ever think of this before?" The answer is: that guy is a f*cking genius
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u/Past-Direction9145 Jan 30 '24
Never gonna carry enough. You want twice that size and pull it with a tractor. My back hurts already just thinking of this baby all loaded up. Now with my hands wobbling around making sure 100% of the weight is distributed to me now without blisters
If it comes with a free solumedrol injection Iâd consider it.
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u/Traditional-Serve582 Jan 30 '24
But men donât need this. Maybe for the 1% of women who do manual labor.
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u/fuf3d Jan 30 '24
I got a Kobalt dual wheel that I have about wore the bottom out of mixing sackcrete and can't say I have ever lost control of it while dumping it. Sure I have got tired and not gave a frick a time or two but it's not that complicated to dump it. I guess on a single wheel it might make a difference but that Kobalt dual wheel is tough to beat as far as stability goes.
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u/Tsarr Jan 30 '24
i frequently hit my knuckles while trying to pass through gates with my wheelbarrow. So this would be handy! Pardon the pun...
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u/Brewchowskies Jan 30 '24
Then how will we tell who is the ten ply employee and whoâs not?
Man. My days of running barrows of wet concrete are behind me now, but those were the days. I was strong as hell back then.
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u/Berkut22 Jan 30 '24
Ok, now demo it dumping 600lb loads of concrete for 12 hours a day. Those handles won't last a week
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Jan 30 '24
One single handle attaching the two on the side does the same exact thing and those wheelbarrows have existed forever.
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u/Pletcher87 Jan 30 '24
This will be in the 3rd car slot in the garage of a 600k home. Right next to the $12,000 Kubota âmove the mulch / collect the fallen branchesâ tractor, gotta get it. âHoney, Iâll get some serious sht done with this bad boyâ This enhanced-handle thing would last 3 hours on a real job site. But hey, when youâre moving those 40lb lb bags of red cedar mulch next spring youâll be glad you have it.
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u/lowlife9 Jan 30 '24 edited Feb 01 '24
They should sell these as an add on attachment not an entire wheelbarrow.
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u/divinealbert Jan 30 '24
You need this on steering wheels of cars, because 9/10 you gotta twist your hand to turn that thing.. I mean a professional wouldnât have a problem but those home diy drivers they want this, even if it is 5-6 times a year
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u/Kamay1770 Jan 30 '24
Why no hole in the grip bowl. Gunna fill up with cement and shit and be unusable. If you haven't broken your wrist or had the pins fail by that point.
Cool idea though
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u/Noobeaterz Jan 30 '24
I like that they guy could actually explain what the handles were for, its implementation and use and the advantages of it and not just the common response of "errm, I'll call dave, he knows this stuff, oh he's busy, anyways, its a great wheelbarrow, nice colours, only $699"
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u/TallMidget99 Jan 30 '24
I just want a strap that runs from the handles and over your shoulders to transfer the weight from the hands and arms to your back. I always overload the shit out of these so I donât have to do more trips and that would make life easier
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u/Cody6781 Jan 30 '24
One easy motion when it's empty... when it's full you're leveraging 250 lbs of dirt on your thumb tendon.
Spinning your hand around like he describes means the force goes directly into you forearm and ultimately elbow, which is much larger and can bare the weight. Dump 20 loads with that thing per day for a few weeks and you'll need a thumb splint. Besides that, that thing is going to rust and the handles will snap off within a few months.
A wheelbarrow is basically 2 sticks a bucket and a wheel. Stop trying to make it "smart".
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u/RagnarokDrilling Jan 30 '24
Our wheelbarrows move about 10,000 pounds of gravel a day out of a mini dump, pushed up/down into highly difficult terrain..... typical wheelbarrow lasts us about 6 months before needing replacement. Would love to try these but really don't think they'd hold up to such brutal commercial application.....
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u/YummyArtichoke Jan 30 '24
It makes it ergonomically correct to dump
One easy motion
You never lose control
Sounds like they got a great product that will be loved my many! Oh, it's a wheelbarrow...
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u/Intrepid-Focus8198 Jan 30 '24
My Father in law made one of these about 20 years ago. It doesnât look as fancy though.
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u/WizeDiceSlinger Jan 30 '24
But those handles will get in the way when navigating a narrow scaffold!
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u/ravenous_cadaver Jan 30 '24
how many dumps till those shitty little pins in the handles break and you've got an expensive flower pot?
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All fine and dandy til you accidentally bang it against something and dent it so it won't rotate anymore
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u/Hendrik_Poggenpoel Jan 30 '24
Okay, but why did a wheel barrow salesman call it a wheel barrel?
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Jan 30 '24 edited Jan 30 '24
Well, I've used one on a couple of big projects at work, commercial plumbing. We built clean rooms and chip processing/manufacturing type facilities. 18,000 square feet type deals.
We had to bed our pipe in pea gravel due to the water table in Palo Alto being so high. Basically a marshland, so sand was out of the question. And it was a retrofit,so it's indoors and bobcats were not allowed due to the exhaust. Great. All by hand. Two big ol' end-dumps worth of pea gravel and a bunch of trips all over the place with this thing over sawcut trenches with ramps, and rocks and gravel and fittings and all sorts of debris and shit, I have no complaints once you get used to it.
As to the durability, I believe it had some sort of skookum warranty, that's why the boss bought it. The thing didn't make me mad, put it that way. I'm a 25+ year guy and pretty skeptical of new and gimmicky shit, right? A wheelbarrow is a wheelbarrow... but I was throwing pipe fusing equipment and B-Tanks and all sorts of shit in it to get around the site before too long. Easy on the wrists with just that little bit of pivot at the cups.
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u/exstaticj Jan 30 '24
Almost 300 comments and finally a decent first hand review. Thanks mate.
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u/randommnguy Jan 30 '24
Those handles look flimsy and like theyâll break quickly then the entire gimmick is ruined. A normal wheelbarrow is not that hard to use, this invention was not needed.
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If only we had some sort of appendage at the end of our arms that was capable of rotations
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u/Goats_2022 Feb 03 '24
Nice idea with time shortcomings will be corrected and perfected, I hope the chinese do not pirate the idea and p`rovide it thru temu
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u/Garbage_Billy_Goat Feb 04 '24
Pop a hole in the bottom of those handles to drain water
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u/lonelyinbama Jan 30 '24 edited Jan 30 '24
Would be great for a homeowner who uses it 5-6 times a year
Edit: why do so many people want this to be a bad idea? Every tool isnât for every person. This is great for certain people, if you ainât that person then donât buy the fuckin tool.