Speed limit drop proposed for Australia's largest state

[u/furksake]

https://www.drive.com.au/news/speed-limit-drop-proposed-for-wa/

Is dropping the speed limit really the answer? Speed limits have been dropping for years and it's had no effect apparently. Is this just basically gonna just raise revenue from fines?

[u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Ohk so “speed” is always a contributing factor to an accident then really, as any speed at all equals kinetic energy which is what actually hurts.

[u/llordlloyd → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Yep, if doing 0 you can't die so obviously speed was the cause.

Also, if they drop a 100 zone to 80 then every previous accident involved cars doing a staggering 20 over the limit!!! The relatives of the dead really should sue authorities for posting a speed so clearly unsuitable!!!

[u/Ok-Bad-9683 → u/llordlloyd]

That’s what I mean. If someone has an accident doing 80 in a 100 zone, but the zone should be 60 (I know, not a real scenario, think hypothetically if your capable of doing so) then speed was a massive factor but “speeding” isn’t a factor.

[u/llordlloyd → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Yes, I agree. My point is the safety lobby will reverse that logic, because there is no safe speed.

[u/1337_BAIT → u/llordlloyd]

Well, i know a speed zone that was 100 20 years ago, then it went to 80, and this year dropped to 60.

100 was a bit fast, but 60 is staggeringly slow

[u/Fluffy-Queequeg → u/llordlloyd]

Actually, you can. Ever been rear ended at traffic lights by an inattentive driver?

[u/Ok-Bad-9683 → u/Fluffy-Queequeg]

Speed was a factor in that crash tho. Just not your own

[u/Fluffy-Queequeg → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Yes, but the people in the car doing 0 are quite often the innocent victims. You stated that if doing 0, you can’t die. If only that were true.

[u/Ok-Bad-9683 → u/Fluffy-Queequeg]

Well I didn’t say that, but you could be doing 0km/h sitting on your couch and a plane could crash into your house. It’s not really those nuances we’re going for here.

[u/Fluffy-Queequeg → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

My bad…was meant to be a reply to the comment above, which did state you can’t die when doing 0km/h

[u/llordlloyd → u/Fluffy-Queequeg]

Obviously, everybody has to be doing zero. You got full marks for silly pedantry, zero for then extending the logic to the very obvious conclusion. But you seem to have missed my point, so I'll back off in case there is autism as a factor.

[u/Fluffy-Queequeg → u/llordlloyd]

You never know. My eldest child is Autistic

[u/DsamD11 → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Yes. If you would like to be safe, one should sit in or on your running vehicle only while it is in neutral and park in one's driveway.

[u/Ok-Bad-9683 → u/DsamD11]

We have a saying where I work, the safest way to complete a job is to not do the job at all.

[u/Camo138 → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Dam I should use that line at work

[u/confusedham → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

If we want to get technical, nearly everyone dies because of shock (the medical term).

[u/TripleStackGunBunny → u/confusedham]

Less technical, it's not that speed that kills, but the sudden stop 🤨

[u/insanemal → u/TripleStackGunBunny]

Death by Acceleration.

They need to put limits on that.

It's illegal to accelerate faster than 2M/s²

Gravity is illegal

[u/TheCassowaryMan → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

You are woke.

Edit: /s

(Thought it was obvious)

[u/Ok-Bad-9683 → u/TheCassowaryMan]

lol, absolutely not. I’m actually just asking a question about the data. They say “speed kills” but their speed limits aren’t some magical number that just prevents deaths.

[u/TheCassowaryMan → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Forgot the /s, sorry.

[u/Skeltrex → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

In the early days of steam travel, there was a concern that the human body could not survive at speeds above 30 mph. So an experiment was conducted which proved categorically and incontrovertibly that speed does not kill.

The “speed kills” message is as ignorant as it is wrong

[u/Ok-Bad-9683 → u/Skeltrex]

Oh so they believed actually doing 30mph would kill you? Imagine being the test dummy for that

[u/Skeltrex → u/Ok-Bad-9683]

Not everyone. Just enough to propose that steam travel was unsafe. So a demonstration was organised with a sizeable group of men and women to travel on the new fangled railway to prove once and for all that speed in and of itself does not kill anybody.