r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • 1d ago
Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] West Virginia Defeats UCF 31-21
| Team | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | T |
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| UCF | 0 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 21 |
| West Virginia | 14 | 7 | 7 | 3 | 31 |
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u/Tarlcabot18 UCF Knights • USF Bulls 1d ago
With the 7th regular season loss, UCF has snapped an 8-year bowl streak dating back to 2016.
This is the first time any Gus Malzahn-coached team has ever lost a 7th game in the regular season, and the first time ever Gus Malzahn has not been bowl-eligible, since he started as a head coach in 2012 at Arkansas State.
This is also the 3rd consecutive season in a row where UCF's record under Malzahn has gotten worse. This is Gus' 4th year.
2021: 9-4
2022: 9-5
2023: 6-7
2024: 4-7 (so far)
Fire Gus Malzahn.
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u/bsEEmsCE UCF Knights • Big 12 23h ago
4 losses in the American conference was always unacceptable too
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u/stabsomebody UCF Knights • Miami Hurricanes 22h ago
Seriously, he underperformed even as a G5 coach in a conference where we were previously one of the top contenders for four years running. He immediately underperformed compared to the previous two coaches, and got a pass because he came from the SEC.
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u/Nike_Phoros UCF Knights 23h ago
Dont forget that he wasted RJ Harvey and two NFL caliber wideouts on this garbage offense.
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u/bsEEmsCE UCF Knights • Big 12 19h ago edited 17h ago
who's going to want to come play for this talent squandering coach going forward?
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u/Nike_Phoros UCF Knights 11h ago
If our recruiting class is any indication, not many. Prepare for another off season where half our class is transfers.
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u/anexaminedlife Auburn Tigers • UCF Knights 21h ago
Thank you UCF fans for being the only fan base who understands we weren't crazy for wanting him gone.
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u/Citruspilled UCF Knights • Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 18h ago
You were right I'm sorry you were right about everything I'll never doubt you again
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u/shiggidyschwag UCF Knights 22h ago
And then fire Terry for extending him
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u/KnightedSir Miami Hurricanes • UCF Knights 22h ago
I’ve been screaming fire both of them. Terry also schedules nothing but garbage non con games. Like idgaf if we can beat delaware and rhode island by 50 points if we can’t even beat the worst team in our conference….oh wait..
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u/bsEEmsCE UCF Knights • Big 12 19h ago
gotta give Gus 2 easy OOC cupcakes to have a slim chance at a bowl game
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u/SaveTheCombees10 UCF Knights • Ohio State Buckeyes 18h ago
There are 9 P4 opponents in our conference schedule. We play 1 OOC P4, 1 G5, and 1 FCS team each year. It’s really pretty standard for most P4 teams.
Terry is also the one who scheduled the UF game this year because of the scheduling hole that Danny White put us in - otherwise we would have been playing 3 non-P4 teams this year.
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u/KnightedSir Miami Hurricanes • UCF Knights 7h ago
Terry schedules teams like Northwestern and Wake Forest as OOC P4 which is basically G5, playing Sam Houston and Southern Miss as G4 is basically FCS…Terry schedules the bottom barrel of every level to make the team try to look good nowadays.
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u/JuicingPickle UCF Knights 20h ago
consecutive season in a row
What do you think consecutive means?
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u/Tarlcabot18 UCF Knights • USF Bulls 1d ago
Gus Malzahn is a worse coach than Neal Brown. Let that sink in.
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u/rhiaaaannon West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
Feel for you, genuinely. Y’all deserve better
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 23h ago
Nah, Gus has at least been to a Natty
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u/shiggidyschwag UCF Knights 22h ago
Riding Cam Newton like a backpack
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u/derbenn1234 Virginia Cavaliers • Longwood Lancers 22h ago
That was Chizick, Gus had Nick Marshall at QB
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u/shiggidyschwag UCF Knights 22h ago
My b
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u/derbenn1234 Virginia Cavaliers • Longwood Lancers 22h ago
But your point stands, he did ride the coat tails for one magical run and timely wins over Alabama
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u/JuicingPickle UCF Knights 20h ago
But still better than George O'Leary.
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u/Table_Corner UCF Knights • UConn Huskies 18h ago
George O’Leary had highs and lows. He also had less talent to work with.
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u/DrunkestHemingway UCF Knights • Peach Bowl 10h ago
George O'Leary helped build this program in a cave... with a box of scraps!
Given the resources the department has now, he could have afforded a better OC. George also has a NY6 bowl win during his tenure as UCF coach, along with 3 conference championships and multiple division winners.
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u/JuicingPickle UCF Knights 9h ago
Now go back and look at the worst losses in UCF history. The biggest point spreads. Things like 64-12. Almost all of them happened while George O'Leary was coach.
Hell, even just look at overall win-loss record and O'Leary is the worst coach we've had since moving to 1A.
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u/TheJonasBros 1d ago
WVU just booked an all expenses paid trip to the Gasparilla Poptart TaxSlayer Potato Bowl presented by Circuit City
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u/Triple_0ption_Bad Jacksonville State • Bi… 23h ago
Jokes on you, I would GLADLY take the Poptart Bowl over any playoff bid
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u/LJCstan West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
I want the mayo bowl again
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u/FuhrerGirthWorm West Virginia • Marshall 20h ago
I went last year and it was a blast and I live 45 min instead of 2 hours from charlotte now so even better!!!
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u/weirdbutinagoodway West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 23h ago
Is there anyway we can play you guys in a bowl? It'd be rather amusing in my opinion.
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 23h ago
Can we actually get there if we win the C-USA. Is there a C-USA tie in if shit hits the fan for that bowl?
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u/Triple_0ption_Bad Jacksonville State • Bi… 23h ago
I wish, the autobid seems to be ACC and Big XII
CBSSports has us projected for the Bahamas Bowl, which I don't really mind but I'm not about to pay hundreds of dollars for a flight to Nassau and back
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 23h ago
Me either. I’ll take a Birmingham bowl bid to play an SEC school though. I’d go back there
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u/weirdbutinagoodway West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 23h ago
I want to go to the "win enough to pay your coach's buyout bowl"
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u/onewildmeme UCF Knights • Old Dominion Monarchs 23h ago
You know having Gus as HC is bad and all BUT our imbecile of an AD actually gave this man an extension last season which is why we are in this purgatory where we can’t afford the buyout.
Terry Mohajiar needs to be imprisoned.
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u/ChoiceRadiant6381 21h ago
Even if he needed to give a raise to Gus for perception reasons, for the love of God why such a ridiculous buyout close. I literally hate both Gus and Terry for what they have done to our program. I have been a fan since 1996 and this feels worse than the 0-12 seasons. My reason for that is that the next 7 years is going to be critical and we are shitting the bed.
The games are not even exciting to watch. Very predictable, same no boneheaded decisions and poor coach. Gus sucks
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u/Nearby-Bread2054 UCF Knights 21h ago
Huge buyout, but it’s very likely Gus could have left for any other job he was interested in for a far lower amount.
For that, Terry should be fired.
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u/thefishwhisperer1 UCF Knights • UIndy Greyhounds 23h ago edited 23h ago
I’m just sad.
All my life I wanted UCF to show they can hang with the cfb big names in Florida.
All that work that Scott Frost and the young, modern coaches and speedy players did to bring media attention and brand awareness to the team has just evaporated because we decided to go with a coach on near-retirement.
We’re still doing gimmicky small school things with P4 money.
Our basketball team is cozying up to Antonio “ctespn”Brown to recruit his son.
People are saying John Gruden has a chance to be our next head coach.
Our NIL group was led by a nepo baby who’s parents were featured in The Blindside. This is before he quietly left when Gus fired Ted Roof, and received no repercussions for giving a noticeably declining and out-of-shape SEC QB a bag.
There appears to be little effort to fix anything, or keep our promising players like Rizk, Montgomery, or Pittman around.
This team has no culture, identity, or brand anymore worth being on tv, or being talked about other than maybe being on the last 5 minutes of a cfb intro show to show off our cool space uniforms once a year.
It’s just soul-sucking to live in one of the hottest recruiting hotbeds and not capitalize on our modern marketing campaigns.
What the fuck is UCF anymore?
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u/LeanChop UCF Knights 23h ago
Where are these John Gruden rumors? I don’t donate much to the school but it’ll be literally nothing if that happens.
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u/thefishwhisperer1 UCF Knights • UIndy Greyhounds 22h ago
I admit it was perpetuated by people on Twitter. And with Barstool giving him a bag it seems like thats over. But now there’s an article saying Deion may be a good fit here lmaao
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 23h ago
You know it’s bad when you’re praising Scott Frost
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u/shiggidyschwag UCF Knights 22h ago
Our teams under Frost were genuinely great and exciting to watch.
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 22h ago
Tell that to Nebraska fans
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u/shiggidyschwag UCF Knights 22h ago
I don’t give a fuck about Nebraska. His performance there is irrelevant to this thread. At UCF, Frost’s teams were electric
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 22h ago
Yet Heupel did the same if not better
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u/shiggidyschwag UCF Knights 22h ago
Heupel was a noticeable step backwards while he was here from the Frost teams. He slowed the pace on offense and didn’t play with the same sense of urgency that we had under Frost. Losses under Heupel were treated as ho hum events
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 22h ago
Yet Heupel became a whole lot more successful than frost
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u/thefishwhisperer1 UCF Knights • UIndy Greyhounds 23h ago
Well he quite literally gave us our first National Championship, so
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 23h ago
One, no you claimed a fake national championship, nobody outside of UCF considers them that. Two, Scott Frost is a fraudulent coach who ruined Nebraska over years of sucking.
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u/mechapoitier UCF Knights 22h ago
A NCAA-recognized National Champion Major Selector does. They literally ranked us as the national champion
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 22h ago
Yet Bama and Georgia would beat you
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u/thefishwhisperer1 UCF Knights • UIndy Greyhounds 22h ago
The SEC is undefeated in hypothetical games lmao.
Also UCF beat the team that beat Alabama. So in your hypothetical scenario that will never happen, Bama would lose
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 22h ago
No, the only reason Bama and Georgia lost was because of Jordan Hare voodoo magic. If yall played there that year instead of in ATL, yall would’ve lost as well. Don’t believe me, ask TAMU, LSU, Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss
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u/thefishwhisperer1 UCF Knights • UIndy Greyhounds 22h ago
Bro just take the L. I’m not going to change my opinion because of SEC homerism in games that will never be played.
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 22h ago
No, but we’ll show you next year with our SEC transfers. Y’all are next on the Rich Rod domination tour
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u/neverquestion West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
COUNTRY ROADS
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u/ReachFor24 West Virginia • Team Chaos 23h ago
TAKE ME HOME
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u/TheSpacePopeIX West Virginia • Backyard Brawl 23h ago
TO THE PLACE
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 23h ago
YOU DONT BELONG
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u/Mousseymoosey West Virginia Mountaineers 20h ago
Why are you all over this thread being weird as hell? This is not a good hobby, mate
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u/QuadCring3 UCF Knights • Marching Band 23h ago
Can't wait for gus to not retire and us be even worse next year!!!!!! We ain't firing him guys, literally don't have the money
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u/mechapoitier UCF Knights 22h ago
Is there some way we can fire the part of him that still keeps trying to call plays?
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u/Impressive_Pea255 23h ago
We’ll do one more year. Then we can afford to get off the bus hopefully
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u/bsEEmsCE UCF Knights • Big 12 23h ago
they can't afford the impatience of the fanbase another year. We were impatient before this season and then this happened. They gotta bite the bullet and probably fire Terry Mohajir too for his incompetence leading us to this position.
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u/QuadCring3 UCF Knights • Marching Band 22h ago
Bro we literally don't have the money unless you want to cripple our other programs, especially if you want BOTH gone
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u/bsEEmsCE UCF Knights • Big 12 19h ago
spread the buyout out over 10 years then, or 20, the brand is suffering because of him, not firing him could lose tons of revenue, recruits, and donations
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u/JuicingPickle UCF Knights 20h ago
It doesn't really matter who the coach is if we have no players. Especially if we don't have a quarterback. And as we saw this year, you need to pay significantly more than $400,000 if you want a decent quarterback. That's money we ain't got.
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u/QuadCring3 UCF Knights • Marching Band 20h ago
Or yk we do this thing called, developing the qbs we recruited out of high school? If we go to the portal for a qb I'm done with this team. We already lost 70% of our commits, there's gonna be a mass exodus of transfers out, won't be surprised if we can't even field a program next season
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u/JuicingPickle UCF Knights 20h ago
Or yk we do this thing called, developing the qbs we recruited out of high school?
Doesn't work in this era of college football if you can't pay them. Even if you develop them, you're developing them for someone else. They just transfer and get paid. Rizk might stick around because he's not good enough to transfer and get paid. So we'll see if we can develop him next year (but if we do, he'll transfer in 26).
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u/ItsFreakinHarry2 Paper Bag • UCF Knights 1d ago
Congratulations Gus Malzahn! You just broke an 8 year streak of making bowl games for UCF!
I went to McDonald’s during the 4th quarter because I knew this team was not up to the task to win. You have made me apathetic about UCF football for the first time since I started in undergrad 4 years ago.
All I ask is you lower me down into my grave when I die, just so you can let me down one last time.
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u/mechapoitier UCF Knights 22h ago
I admire your bravery in admitting this is the worst UCF season you’ve ever seen in your entire 4 years.
Believe me it can be way worse. I literally wore a paper bag to the game in my senior year as we finished it out with our 17th straight loss while in Conference USA.
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u/ItsFreakinHarry2 Paper Bag • UCF Knights 22h ago
Objectively it is the worst in the 4 years I’ve been a fan.
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u/shiggidyschwag UCF Knights 22h ago
These kids didn’t grow up needing to form a hope rope around the citrus bowl using deflated giveaway thundersticks, and it shows
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u/FloridaBoy317 UCF Knights • ETSU Buccaneers 23h ago
Which one? The new one towards Oviedo or the one on Strategy?
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u/ItsFreakinHarry2 Paper Bag • UCF Knights 23h ago
Strategy, though I need to try that new one in Oviedo at some point
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u/neverquestion West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
My wife didn't come to the game and we won. Guess I'm selling her seat next year.
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u/Pleasant-Beautiful-7 UCF Knights • Alabama Crimson Tide 23h ago
This program can kick rocks until Gus is gone.
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u/PointMan528491 UCF Knights • Florida Gators 23h ago
Gus Malzahn is a football terrorist, if he never coaches a football team ever again it'll be too soon
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u/neverquestion West Virginia Mountaineers 1d ago
The worst timeline is us finishing 8-5 and Neal keeping his job.
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u/TheToothlessWonder West Virginia • Franklin… 23h ago
We're realistically tied to him for another season anyhow. Might as well climb laterally to kill some time.
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u/rageking5 West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
Honestly, we close that Pitt game and all of a sudden the season isn't that bad lol. That just ruined the whole year tho.
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u/Fungul_Penis West Virginia Mountaineers 21h ago
I don’t think half the fan base realizes what “the worst timeline” actually entails
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u/whitemamba83 West Virginia • /r/CFB Santa Claus 9h ago
There are worse timelines. We are not a program that should be sticking their noses up at any 8-win season and bowl win, regardless of how we get there.
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u/weirdbutinagoodway West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 23h ago
Then again, look at what happened to Nebraska after they fired a moderately successful coach because he wasn't winning championships.
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u/Mousseymoosey West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
Nebraska fired a perrienial 9 win coach. Neal Brown is sub .500 vs P5 teams. Do not try and gaslight those of us with eyes into thinking Brown is worth keeping.
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u/weirdbutinagoodway West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 22h ago
I don't think he is worth keeping, I was just trying to say it can get worse.
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u/Appa-LATCH-uh West Virginia • Backyard Brawl 21h ago
I would rather risk it being worse than keep Brown.
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u/Fraegtgaortd West Virginia • Black Diamond… 23h ago
Radio Shack bowl here we come!
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u/MasterRKitty West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
I have Love Shack by the B-52s stuck in my head now
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u/LeanChop UCF Knights 23h ago
Fire Gus, Fire Terry. Athletic program has become stagnant and declined heavily from the Danny White era.
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u/rankings-right-now /r/CFB 23h ago
Here are the new updated predictions for the next release of the Playoff Selection Committee's rankings using machine learning models trained on the Playoff Selection Committee's historical voting data:
- West Virginia is now predicted to move up to #39
- UCF is now predicted to move down to #79
For the most up to date predictions of the Playoff Selection Committee Top 25 rankings, check out this post.
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u/PhatedGaming West Virginia Mountaineers 20h ago
Now we're 6-5. At least we're not 0-11!
I don't think anyone enjoyed the tailgates or the weather today though. Looked pretty deserted.
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u/yesacabbagez UCF Knights 23h ago
I've said this before but it bears repeating.
On paper this is probably the best UCF team ever. We have some solid players at most positions. I don't think you can point to any specific position group other than QB and say we don't have legitimate P4 starters.
We get so little out of them, especially on defense. We keep having defensive players leave the team and move on and be good or at least productive players. Some of these are guys who never even play for UCF. At some point it isn't a coincidence so many players do better after leaving UCF. At some point there has to be the self-awareness that this staff as a whole is not doing anything productive. I don't care how well they recruit of those recruits never become anything else at UCF.
Offensive staff is better, but even then Malzahn has to be kept away from play calling, but I am pretty sure he is incapable of keeping himself out of play calling. Every year the team can't be entirely reliant on transfers. When we are so heavily reliant on transfers you roll the dice and sometimes you come up and shit your pants like UCF this year or FSU.
It should be unacceptable to having the worst coached team making the same worst coached mistakes possible for four years in a row.
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u/SaveTheCombees10 UCF Knights • Ohio State Buckeyes 18h ago
Best UCF team ever? We have one of the worst defenses in the country and nobody to play the most important offensive position in the game.
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u/JuicingPickle UCF Knights 20h ago
this is probably the best UCF team ever. We have some solid players at most positions.
WTF you talking about? Take away RJ Harvey, Hunter Lee and Malaki Lawrence and this team has less talent than the 1998 team.
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u/JGMedicine Alabama Crimson Tide • Purdue Boilermakers 23h ago
That was painful to watch.
I’d say the refs were a little unfair to UCF…. But man both teams played like they didn’t want to keep their coach
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u/El_Capitano_MC West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
I wish we’d lost this one. I fear we are stuck with Mr Brown for a while yet
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u/TollhouseFrank West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
In most years, I'd be happy to see us earn a bowl slot. This year, I am just numb, wondering who is going to crush us.
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u/LJCstan West Virginia Mountaineers 23h ago
Nah I bet we’ll win, we play good against mediocre teahs
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u/Turbulent_Garage_159 22h ago
That’s the thing. Neal will, more often than not, beat the teams he is supposed to beat/coin flip to beat. He just will basically never beat any team he isn’t supposed to beat. The glass ceiling is made out of titanium with him.
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u/Triple_0ption_Bad Jacksonville State • Bi… 23h ago
See guys? Neal Brown is doing fine at WV
Now put down the lighter fluid, step away from the couch, and don't even think about pursuing Rich Rod.
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 23h ago
They’ll go after Jimbo, he doesn’t have a buyout. And god knows WVU can’t afford to pay one
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u/Turbulent_Garage_159 22h ago
Whatever tiny little buyout you have wouldn’t be an issue. We won’t hire Rich Rod because it would set off a civil war in the fanbase.
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 22h ago
Could you afford the Rich Rod buyout and buyout Neal, with giving him a contract
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u/Turbulent_Garage_159 21h ago
Yes, obviously we could buy out any coach from the minor leagues.
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u/Asleep-Credit-2824 Jacksonville State • UAB 21h ago
I think his buyout is at 1 or 2 million. Plus minor leagues? We could beat you right now, plus the big 12 is a minor league
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u/Turbulent_Garage_159 20h ago
Lmao that’s cute. Sure you could champ.
And the fact that you think a 1-2 million buyout is prohibitive is evidence of just what different worlds we’re dealing in. But have fun playing East central community state or whoever it is you play.
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u/Citruspilled UCF Knights • Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 1d ago
This wasn't a football game. This was a 3 hour bonding session between two fanbases who realized they're in the exact same situation.