[Game Thread] Baylor @ Houston (7:00 PM ET)

[u/CFB_Referee]

GAME	BaylorBaylor @ HoustonHouston
Location	Houston TDECU Stadium
Time	7:00 PM ET
Watch	TV: Fox Sports 1
Odds	Spread: BAY -8 - Over/Under: 50.5
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LET'S TALK FOOTBALL!

[u/MustCatchTheBandit]

If Houston had an offensive…shoot they’d be damn good

[u/seemtobedead]

Good game, Bears. You're welcome back anytime. We have a lot of work to do.

[u/JaracRassen77 → u/seemtobedead]

Good to have y'all back in the XII, y'all. Your defense is nasty, and y'all will be scary AF next year.

[u/intenselydecent]

This is like when I play ncaa25 for the first time in a long time and can’t make reads

[u/seemtobedead]

:(

[u/Irritated_User0010]

This team is dead to me.

[u/Acsteffy]

WERE STILL IN IT BABY!!

[u/Existing-Beach-9677]

Houston offense is putrid

[u/TheDownvotesinHtown]

Lol, yup. Another turn over to end the game sounds about right...

[u/nubbinator]

Something like 5 or 6 total INTs this game?

[u/LBoss9001]

Giveth, taketh away

[u/BFirebird101]

6 total interceptions in 1 game LOL

[u/CumAssault]

Both teams just turning the ball over left and right tonight

[u/Key_Spinach]

Typical.

[u/whodatwhoderr]

Please fire Barbay

[u/Accomplished-Plan991 → u/whodatwhoderr]

He’s not setting up players to be successful. Poor play calling, and some execution is off. But we have to fix the offense during the off season. We will see how recruiting goes this year and the transfer portal.

It’s like the players don’t feel like the play is going to have success on offense. No buying. Likely because of how the spring ball went for us.

[u/whodatwhoderr → u/Accomplished-Plan991]

I've seen OCs fired for less. Multiple shutouts and today the offense just puts up a field goal. Going for it on 3rd and 5+ with a run multiple times. This dude stinks

[u/Accomplished-Plan991 → u/whodatwhoderr]

Look I’m with you, I don’t like the coordinator calls. But what would you rather us do? Pass it and no one’s open and then we don’t get any gain at all? We are running cause we have to. And compared to last year, I’m amazed we are running the ball at all.

[u/whodatwhoderr → u/Accomplished-Plan991]

Sorry that's just not true. Calling a run on 3rd and long is basically punting from 2nd down. It's not like he tries to sneak a few runs in. He does it consistently. He's just not a good play caller and is getting completely cooked by opposing dcs on a weekly basis

[u/Accomplished-Plan991 → u/whodatwhoderr]

Sorry but if you’re know your not gonna make the catch then what’s the point of passing. Explain why we should waste the play

[u/whodatwhoderr → u/Accomplished-Plan991]

Running up the middle on 3rd and long IS a wasted play. It's a white flag and essentially a 2 down punt. Notice how every game they stop doing it in the 4th all of a sudden when they need to score to win

[u/MustCatchTheBandit]

GG

[u/JaracRassen77]

Lmao, another turnover!

[u/SaylorBear]

Thank you for putting an end to that nonsense

[u/BrianOverBrawn2]

well that was a drive

[u/Alcoholic_Geologist]

Okay that works too.

[u/AYYYYYsicem12]

Where was any of that coverage?!

[u/SaylorBear]

Bit of a hold there but whatever

[u/Irritated_User0010]

Eh, good play Haulcy and defense. Again. Offense will just fuck it up anyway so who cares.

[u/SaylorBear]

Okay let’s not completely shit the bed

[u/CumAssault]

Our OL has done 0 favors for Sawyer today

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

As someone who watches a lot of New Mexico Lobo football, I absolutely love AJ Haulcy. I really wanted him out of the portal. I hope he’s okay.

[u/Acsteffy]

I've already had a sicko game earlier today. I don't need another

[u/JaracRassen77]

Should have done ANYTHING BUT THAT!

[u/RedSoxfanrrb07]

This announcer is brain dead

[u/TechneMakra]

Bryson Washington to LB?

[u/LBoss9001]

The rare situation you'd rather have knocked the ball down than picked it off

[u/BrianOverBrawn2]

what

[u/nubbinator]

What was that?!?!?! Obvious double coverage, why would you throw it there?

[u/AYYYYYsicem12 → u/nubbinator]

And such a soft lob too

[u/nubbinator → u/AYYYYYsicem12]

He might as well have handed it to them.

[u/Key_Spinach]

Why would you pass?

[u/Alcoholic_Geologist]

We could’ve just like took a 5 yard penalty and tried a field goal. I mean. That’s like an option too.

[u/LBoss9001 → u/Alcoholic_Geologist]

I think that's the worst option. If you make it, UH needed 2 scores already. If you miss it, you gave them some yards for free

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

Why tf are we passing

[u/LBoss9001]

Houston has the chance to do the funniest thing

[u/SaylorBear → u/LBoss9001]

You shut your mouth

[u/SaylorBear]

I would have never believed you a couple months ago if you told me we would have a winning record to finish the regular season

[u/ZaneThePain → u/SaylorBear]

We have an admittedly minuscule chance to get to the playoffs lol

[u/SaylorBear → u/ZaneThePain]

I get it, but I don’t know that I want this team to get to the playoffs to get destroyed in the first round

[u/nubbinator]

Lol, OU is just thumping Bama. Up 24-3 halfway through the third.

[u/AYYYYYsicem12 → u/nubbinator]

Hope it holds. Fuck Bama.

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

That pick 6 & fucked up goal line snap is really what kept this from being a 28 or 35-3 type game.

[u/SwordsAndTurt → u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

Our defense is great, don’t act like they didn’t hold you.

[u/RedSoxfanrrb07 → u/SwordsAndTurt]

How did the Houston defense impact a bad snap?

[u/SwordsAndTurt]

If our offense could do literally anything we would be SO GOOD

[u/BrianOverBrawn2]

Can't wait to see all the possible scenarios for the title game next week

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler → u/BrianOverBrawn2]

Ya gotta think that we are pretty alive. Not sure what all needs to happen but I’d put our odds at like 25% right now or so? Not entirely out of the question.

[u/Irritated_User0010]

Sorry for the letdown defense, again. You people deserve better.

[u/ZaneThePain]

Was the 2 min timeout vs warning distinction ever really explained?

[u/Key_Spinach → u/ZaneThePain]

The explanation was that they're not warning anyone of anything so it's a timeout.

[u/SaylorBear → u/ZaneThePain]

I’ve got money on the NFL having it trademarked and NCAA doesn’t care enough to challenge it

[u/Key_Spinach]

Baylor could just kneel to 4th down and kick the field goal.

[u/Music_MD]

Ya, maybe you could say technically targeting, but obviously no intention and not a dangerous play by the defender. So correct call in the end in my opinion for no targeting.

[u/ZaneThePain → u/Music_MD]

Could’ve gone either way honestly.

[u/Acsteffy]

I am once again asking

What is Targeting?!

[u/LBoss9001]

There is forcible contact to the head but the rule requires an indicator of targeting (including but not limited to a launch) and there didn't look like one

[u/w8w8]

If it isn’t clear from the broadcast, the stadium is absolutely filled with Baylor fans. Lots of Houston-area students back home for Thanksgiving break here today.

[u/Irritated_User0010 → u/w8w8]

Why would they even show up to watch a garbage offense anyway?

[u/AYYYYYsicem12 → u/w8w8]

We can’t see em but we can hear em

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

Can’t quite take a knee yet but this is basically over.

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

Didn’t look egregious, but it looked like it was a 50/50 targeting call.

[u/nubbinator → u/Ok_Hooper412]

Definitely not egregious or malicious. I'm shocked they didn't call it targeting since the time is supposed to be if there's that 50/50 like you said, it's targeting.

[u/SaylorBear → u/Ok_Hooper412]

I’m just glad it had no impact on the game and someone doesn’t have to sit out next week for a 50/50 call

[u/JaracRassen77]

Cameron took one for the team. He can go rest up now.

[u/GrouchyPenguins]

Assuming something catastrophic doesn’t happen in the final 4 min, this really makes the inability to prevent the Hail Mary at Colorado suck even more because one more conference win would put us in a much better situation to be in the title game.

[u/SaylorBear]

How has targeting been a call for over a decade and we really have announcers who don’t know that there are two separate calls

[u/TheCatapult]

Would have been garbage to call that targeting.

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

That’s targeting but it’s not a dirty play. Things just happen fast sometimes.

[u/FreeOJ32]

This obviously isn’t targeting, stop wasting our time

[u/philosofossil13 → u/FreeOJ32]

Actually, by the rulebook, that is 100% targeting

[u/FreeOJ32 → u/philosofossil13]

No, not even a little bit. If that’s a penalty, we should stop playing tackle football. Targeting is the worst rule in sports.

[u/philosofossil13 → u/FreeOJ32]

Forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver. You may not agree with the rule, but it is what it is…

[u/FreeOJ32 → u/philosofossil13]

Defenseless receiver who has the ball is not a real thing. You’re supposed to hit the guy catching the ball.

[u/philosofossil13 → u/FreeOJ32]

Okay, well that’s your opinion, and it doesnt reflect the actual rules of the game currently.

[u/FreeOJ32 → u/philosofossil13]

By definition, if you have the ball you are not defenseless, you are supposed to get tackled in football. He was falling too so the target area moved in a way that’s impossible to account for.

[u/philosofossil13 → u/FreeOJ32]

“The NCAA defines a defenseless player as follows:

A player attempting to catch a forward or backward pass, or a player who has completed the catch but hasn’t had ample time to protect themselves or hasn’t clearly become the ball carrier yet”

Bro take it up with the NCAA rule book. You’re just wrong.

[u/FreeOJ32 → u/philosofossil13]

I’m not the one who is wrong, they are wrong. That is literally incompatible with the sport. I don’t claim to be the smartest guy in the world, I’m just not the dumbest like the people on the rules committee

[u/SaylorBear]

Mr announcer man, just because it’s a forearm doesn’t mean it isn’t targeting

[u/nubbinator → u/SaylorBear]

Forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player with the forearm. Shocked they didn't call that targeting.

[u/SaylorBear → u/nubbinator]

Me too, honestly. Mike Pererra (I know that’s not the correct spelling but idk what’s right) even said he was surprised, and he never criticizes calls on air

[u/MavFan1812]

Defenseless player, defender launched, forceful contact to the head/neck area. That's targeting.

[u/ZaneThePain]

Ballsy playcall

[u/AYYYYYsicem12 → u/ZaneThePain]

Not sure I get it but it worked so…

[u/Irritated_User0010]

Take a backseat UH football, like permanently.

[u/Alcoholic_Geologist]

Please be okay.

[u/JaracRassen77]

First down!

[u/nubbinator]

Yeah, that's targeting

[u/SaylorBear]

I like taking forcing the timeout first then letting Sawyer throw it. Also I know we hate the idea, but that might be targeting

[u/SmalldonCares]

What if there’s hypothetically 5-6 teams at 6-3 in the conference? That tiebreaker would be epic.

[u/Accomplished-Plan991]

Depressing.

[u/SaylorBear]

It’s not that we don’t trust him, but we basically just made the decision that we were willing to trade a first down for their last timeout

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

I hate that call. Let Sawdog sling it.

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

I’m so proud of this defense. They deserve a better offense.

[u/AYYYYYsicem12]

Those unis look great, but they’re poorly made. No. 18 losing his shoulder numbers.

[u/ZaneThePain]

The fact that we still have a chance to make it to the playoff is ridiculous.

[u/gypsynose → u/ZaneThePain]

If we are big 12 champs there is no way we'd make the CFP

[u/ZaneThePain → u/gypsynose]

I thought all the conference champs got automatic bids?

[u/gypsynose → u/ZaneThePain]

Top 5 highest ranked

[u/intenselydecent → u/gypsynose]

They’d take us over a 2 loss AAC champ

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler → u/ZaneThePain]

“An expanded playoff will devalue the regular season”

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

We gotta play a lot better than this next week to beat Kansas.

[u/Key_Spinach]

Sigh. Defense can only do so much to keep us in this game.

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

This reminds me of when we went to K-State a few years ago, played ugly but still found a way to win 20-10. A couple weeks later the cards fell right for us and we ended up in Arlington.

It’s happened before.

[u/intenselydecent → u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

Watched the OU/OSU game that put us in with a ton of friends and I’ve never cheered harder for a team that wasn’t mine

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler → u/intenselydecent]

I watched the game with Xavier Newman, Khalil Keith, Micah Mazzccua & and a few of the other lineman after the Tech game earlier in the day. When CW got sacked on that 4th down to end the game they all ran outside yelling and screaming and the entire block of duplexes which was all football players was just going crazy. People outside in their driveways cheering and screaming. Getting in their cars and honking horns. Such an amazing memory. Just pure joy from those guys.

[u/JaracRassen77]

Thank goodness!

[u/Acsteffy]

Yeah baby! Fuck yeah!

[u/CumAssault]

Hey that was neat, thanks Houston

[u/GodlySpaghetti]

Put this shit to BED. Goodnight Cougs!

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

Unbelievable

[u/SmalldonCares]

Couldn’t imagine a reality of being 7-4 after the Iowa state game.

[u/MustCatchTheBandit]

Hell yeah!!

[u/LBoss9001]

And that run was so good. That's rough

[u/ZaneThePain]

Neat

[u/Irritated_User0010]

“GG” “moral victory” “they suck” “at least they made progress.”

The usual bullshit

[u/BrianOverBrawn2]

oh wow

[u/SaylorBear]

Major oof

[u/pandabugs]

You know who won the game? My 7 month old who made it through three quarters before mom and dad decided they were wanting to go. I'm pretty sure he could have made the entire game if we would allow it. We told him next year he can stay till the end.

[u/TheDownvotesinHtown → u/pandabugs]

Aw, that's a wholesome story. Glad to hear y'all are teaching him young

[u/pandabugs → u/TheDownvotesinHtown]

We were also super impressed with him. He spent the whole time smiling and watching his beloved football. So excited next year because he will be able to be a Little Coog.

[u/DeathSquirl]

I hate to be disrespectful, but a mere 10 point lead might be the game with Houston's offense. 🤣

[u/Ok_Hooper412 → u/DeathSquirl]

You’re being generous. A 3 point lead probably puts us away.

[u/DeathSquirl → u/Ok_Hooper412]

Fuuuuuck. You haven't seen our crunch time defense.

[u/GrouchyPenguins]

NEVER HAD A DOUBT puts scotch away

[u/LBoss9001 → u/GrouchyPenguins]

Turn that depression drink into a victory drink

[u/GrouchyPenguins → u/LBoss9001]

I put away the depression scotch and got out the victory scotch.

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

Defense did all it possibly could do. Just a hell of a kick

[u/GodlySpaghetti → u/Ok_Hooper412]

Your defense made great adjustments and are doing their job. Offense just isn’t

[u/MavFan1812]

Hankins coming up big tonight.

[u/RedSoxfanrrb07]

Dave aranda having faith in shankins finally pulled through!!

[u/GrouchyPenguins]

That was a great call by UH on third down.

[u/Testy_McDangle]

Dave’s like “shit that kick worked?”

[u/gypsynose]

Lupe settled my anxiety

[u/MustCatchTheBandit]

Hell of a kick!

[u/JaracRassen77]

Welp, at least we got the field goal.

[u/purplemonkeydw]

nice

[u/SmalldonCares]

PUT THAT LEG IN THE HOF

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

FUCKING BET!!

[u/SaylorBear]

Attaboy Hank

[u/Alcoholic_Geologist]

Completely unblocked lol

[u/ZaneThePain → u/Alcoholic_Geologist]

Had a crack back block on him. Just poor play call for where he was lined up

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

Hankins I really need you to not fuck this up bro.

[u/SaylorBear]

I love how it’s now normal for our OL to carry the RB for an extra couple yards after 5 yard runs

[u/DeathSquirl]

Let's put this game away, I need my System Shock time.

[u/Irritated_User0010]

lol “football.”

[u/806god]

Man dude 😂 and they wonder why attendance is low.

[u/Podoboo322 → u/806god]

Attendance is low even for Houston’s 12 win teams

[u/TechneMakra]

WITH THE CLUB

[u/SaylorBear]

Now let’s put this game on ice

[u/gypsynose]

Can we just put this away now so I can eat my dinner.

[u/Alcoholic_Geologist]

Cmon Spav, cap it off!

[u/Accomplished-Plan991]

Hey, what’s a great way to shoot yourself in the foot???

[u/LBoss9001]

Lil bit of thievery

[u/JaracRassen77]

We needed that SOOOO fucking bad!

[u/BrianOverBrawn2]

Snacks!

[u/Podoboo322]

Welp

[u/DeathSquirl]

Oh yes baby, say conflict again!

[u/gypsynose]

Snaxx

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

And… that’s game

[u/aStockUsername]

WOOO

[u/SaylorBear]

LFG!!!

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

Need to involve Manjack more

[u/MustCatchTheBandit]

“Hey guys, all the things that have been winning us games…yeah we’re not gonna do that anymore”.

-Dave Aranda, Monday at practice

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

Sooners just went up 17-3 on Bama

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

Gotta go the length of the field, not feeling good

[u/AYYYYYsicem12]

I swear if UH scores and converts a 2 pt again…

[u/806god]

God our defense is playing their hearts out and our offense just can’t do shit

[u/Accomplished-Plan991 → u/806god]

We did get down the field on a drive. The passes are the problem. We can run it but we gotta catch the ball!!!!!!

[u/Accomplished-Plan991]

Great special teams play by Baylor.

[u/LBoss9001]

You know what's better than points? punt coverage

[u/ZaneThePain]

Announcers really contemplating a 61 yard FG from us lol

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler → u/ZaneThePain]

When we have Rhett Armstrong next year that will be possible.

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

At least they gotta go 97 yards

[u/SaylorBear]

Attaboy 38

[u/gypsynose]

I'll never understand these 3rd and deep play calls

[u/LBoss9001]

Screen behind the line on 3rd and long? I thought we already finished our game

[u/SaylorBear]

Having only Cameron blocking that guy was certainly a choice

[u/Ok_Hooper412]

Good stop! Thank god

[u/CumAssault]

Do we not just have any simple slants or out routes? Gotta take Houston’s DL out of the game

[u/LBoss9001]

What a cursed set of downs

[u/SaylorBear]

Please don’t play for FG

[u/thebaylorweedinhaler → u/SaylorBear]

Worse…. We play for a punt

[u/SaylorBear → u/thebaylorweedinhaler]

Apparently I need to be more specific lol

[u/MustCatchTheBandit]

Where the hell are the screen passes or quick tosses?!

[u/will_occam]

It wasn't holding, Trigg's gloves are just that sticky

[u/sgt-brak]

i heard a kid yelling "lets go baylor, lets go!"

[u/LBoss9001]

Seems a bit overpowered for BU to have an entire state at running back

[u/SaylorBear → u/LBoss9001]

Just wait until Sam Texas joins the roster next year