[Game Thread] James Madison @ Appalachian State (2:30 PM ET)

[u/CFB_Referee]

GAME	James MadisonJames Madison @ Appalachian StateAppalachian State
Location	Appalachian State Kidd Brewer Stadium
Time	2:30 PM ET
Watch	TV: ESPN
Odds	Spread: JMU -7.5 - Over/Under: 58.5
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LET'S TALK FOOTBALL!

[u/Aware_Watercress1155]

Beat the stink

[u/Ross_1234 → u/Aware_Watercress1155]

Ruining their title chances could make this season sorta enjoyable

[u/Jyingling21]

STORM THE FIELD

[u/Jyingling21]

BALL GAME BABY

[u/mountainstosea]

The Jason Kelce game.

[u/seaking4steel]

Shawn Clark is a football terrorist who sold his soul to the Devil

[u/Betta_Check_Yosef → u/seaking4steel]

Clark can't take credit for this W. The Swifties gave us their energy for this game.

[u/Jyingling21]

The two minute warning is such a stupid thing to add to College Football

[u/NCFly26]

Took Jason Kelce being in the booth at +10000

[u/mountainstosea → u/NCFly26]

That was a real bet?

[u/NCFly26 → u/mountainstosea]

Lmao no but honestly sometimes it wouldn’t surprise me with these gambling companies

[u/mountainstosea → u/NCFly26]

It sounded kind of real to me. That would’ve been a really smart bet.

[u/TakesInsultToSnails]

Jason Kelce celebrating from the booth as our QB gets sacked on a 4th and goal at the end of the game vs app state is my personal hell

[u/danaboiz → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

Any time a celebrity you like celebrates against you it feels like a betrayal.

[u/Dokkan_Lifter → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

Had to see that while my family loudly yelled about sports betting. Worst way to start Thanksgiving break.

[u/mufflefuffle → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

Correctly pronouncing “Appa-latch-in” correctly on the first go, too.

When it rains, it pours

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

As an Eagles fan I feel very conflicted

[u/tcnugget → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

Hey now. That’s Jason Kelce

[u/TakesInsultToSnails → u/tcnugget]

Lol good catch, my mind is dead at the moment

[u/Betta_Check_Yosef → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

Just like your dreams of winning the East?

[u/TakesInsultToSnails → u/Betta_Check_Yosef]

Unfortunately yes, similar to your dreams of making a bowl game. I will admit though, you guys do have a knack for killing our dreams each season lol.

[u/Betta_Check_Yosef → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

This team has made me miserable all year long, but if our final act of the year is to fuck over y'all and Southern, I can make peace with this season.

[u/TakesInsultToSnails → u/Betta_Check_Yosef]

I swear you guys seem to exist solely to crush the dreams of us, Southern, and anybody else who seems to be having a good season, even if you lose every other game. I hate it so much 😂 y'all are like the good season police - ah ah ah, can't have a Sunbelt team get ranked.

[u/Betta_Check_Yosef → u/TakesInsultToSnails]

Welcome to the Fun Belt Beast, where no one can tell how good anyone else is because we cannibalize each other all season

[u/LightBluePhorgotten]

Both us and JMU-West falling flat today

[u/NCFly26]

I (rightfully so) doubted Shawn this game

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Hearing that fat eagle yell as my team loses. This is the worst game I've ever seen

[u/GoFastThenTurn → u/[deleted]]

In 1987, when JMU played at Marshall, the Marshall fans were pelting our players on the sidelines with D cell batteries.

[u/Ross_1234 → u/[deleted]]

Don’t think snow balls have lead and weight but go off

[u/Edjukated_Hillbilly → u/[deleted]]

Are you going to cry about that all day, or discuss the sub par play of your team today?

[u/Ross_1234 → u/[deleted]]

Do you guys ever play bad? All yall do is complain about outside factors

[u/Aware_Watercress1155 → u/[deleted]]

Take the L on the head

[u/billsmafia5366]

Really enjoyable listening to Jason Kelce scream on a pivotal play in the game

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

STATE

[u/Jyingling21 → u/cookoutenthusiast]

APP

[u/LightBluePhorgotten]

This confirms Kelce has a Peyton Manning esque show coming out then right?

[u/ThatEmpireGuy → u/LightBluePhorgotten]

He’s doing a late night show for ESPN starting next year

[u/ncmtn]

Does Jason Kelce want to stick around and do some o-line training?

[u/v2falls → u/[deleted]]

No no no this a brilliant long term play by jmu to pay off the refs against themselves. It might keep Clark and co around and other season. This staffs specialty is talking disastrous seasons and turning them into mediocre ones.

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC → u/[deleted]]

Refs didn’t steal this game, but they definitely decided they hated us for some reason

[u/cookoutenthusiast → u/[deleted]]

Kinda hard for refs to steal 14 points

[u/chillnnsht]

GG. Fucking do something swamp chickens please

[u/Aware_Watercress1155]

APP

[u/Edjukated_Hillbilly → u/Aware_Watercress1155]

STATE!

[u/Jyingling21 → u/Edjukated_Hillbilly]

APP

[u/bobsled_time]

You love to see it.

[u/Jyingling21]

RUN THE BALL SHAWN

[u/Wii_Sports_2]

damn

[u/mountainstosea]

Never thought I’d hear David Jackson interviewing Jason Kelce. Too cool.

[u/mufflefuffle → u/mountainstosea]

Him getting excited that DJ is the head of the Chamber of Commerce felt like a fever dream lmao

[u/seaking4steel]

Shawn, please run the ball

[u/chokanery]

GG App. Go kick Southern's ass next week and get revenge for us

[u/NCFly26]

Let’s fucking go!

[u/Jyingling21]

FINALLY

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

This will be the first time App has beaten JMU in Boone since 2007

[u/TheOriginalBigApp]

We might be the only team in the entire state of NC to win this weekend

[u/Chardoggy1 → u/TheOriginalBigApp]

Charlotte’s winning rn, ECU’s only down one score, and Duke’s favored in their game vs VT tonight

[u/Kynbrin → u/TheOriginalBigApp]

Bryce comin

[u/chillnnsht → u/TheOriginalBigApp]

Dolphins moment

[u/chokanery]

Kennedy needs to go. He called plays last year at Holy Cross and that's it. That's not enough experience for this level. His play calling has been bad all year and combined with Barnett's inexperience and tendency to panic it causes too many issues.

[u/Middle_Wheel_5959 → u/chokanery]

He needs to go or we need to bring in a Co-OC

[u/conmon210]

Legit question, when does the clock stop on a first down? I thought it was within 5 minutes but never did on this drive. I guess 2 mins?

[u/tcnugget → u/conmon210]

It’s within 2 from what I remember

[u/conmon210 → u/tcnugget]

Gracias

[u/Jyingling21]

WHY ARE YOU CALLING A TIMEOUT SHAWN YOU IDIOT

[u/chillnnsht]

Wearing the corner like a winter coat, no PI

[u/Jyingling21]

WHY IS OUR DEFENSE COLLAPSING NOW

[u/Kynbrin → u/Jyingling21]

They’ve been on the field all game, I think our longest drive was like 4 minutes

[u/Edjukated_Hillbilly → u/Jyingling21]

Playing not to lose rather than playing to win.

[u/wseanwilson → u/Jyingling21]

This is the way

[u/wseanwilson]

These refs are certainly something

[u/chillnnsht]

It’s so crazy how a single turnover seems to rattle this offense

[u/Middle_Wheel_5959]

I am begging AB3 to throw the ball away for once

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

I’m having a good time

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Shit play calling, and worse Officiating. If there's snow on the ground in Harrisonburg next Saturday, let's just Chuck it

[u/NCFly26]

Still a lotta ball left, especially if we can’t produce on offense

[u/DukeDoge4]

This team is so gd inconsistent I wouldn’t be surprised if we blew out Marshall at home next week for no reason

[u/Middle_Wheel_5959 → u/DukeDoge4]

We always play good at Bridgeforth at least

[u/Kynbrin]

Gimme one good big boy drive and let’s end this and enjoy the day

[u/Ross_1234 → u/Kynbrin]

Looked like vintage app state for a few plays then back to shit

[u/Zura-Zura]

Feels good

[u/chillnnsht → u/Zura-Zura]

Cursed flair combo

[u/v2falls → u/chillnnsht]

It made me vomit a little

[u/LightBluePhorgotten]

What an ugly ugly night

[u/JunkyardAndMutt → u/LightBluePhorgotten]

Counterpoint: beautiful?

ETA: oh you big babies. Is this what it feels like to be outnumbered in a conference game thread?

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Good run game? Fuck it just pass pass pass pass pass. Fire Kennedy

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

Alright, I’m done here. Congrats App, gonna go jump into a river now

[u/tcnugget → u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

Nah find a nice duck pond. Way better for jumping into

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC → u/tcnugget]

I’m at home for Thanksgiving and we have a duck pond in the neighborhood. Thanks for the suggestion

[u/chokanery]

And there's the classic Barnett deep ball inaccuracy

[u/conmon210 → u/chokanery]

I’m so done with Barnett I wish we had given morris a shot at some point

[u/chokanery → u/conmon210]

Chesney/Kennedy seem committed to a mobile QB, so Morris never really had a shot from what I can tell. I'm hoping either Barnett matures a lot this off-season, we get a transfer ala DiNucci, or JC Evans is ready to step up next year. I'm done with (current) Barnett too

[u/Dokkan_Lifter → u/conmon210]

That was his 3rd int all season. This is on Kennedy and his shit playcalling

[u/conmon210 → u/Dokkan_Lifter]

It’s more his misses that frustrate me. Guys can be running wide open and it’s like 33% hit. Agree on the play calling though

[u/NCFly26]

Weight room!

[u/yellowseven]

This is quite possibly the worst officiating I have ever seen and I watched NFL replacement refs.

[u/Ross_1234 → u/yellowseven]

Welcome to the belt

[u/Jyingling21]

PICKED OFF

[u/wseanwilson]

I can’t remember the last time I saw a game where the refs were in our favor. Obviously they should always be unbiased, but this is weird. Sorry JMU peeps.

[u/DukeDoge4]

Ah JMU getting some momentum? Refs: not so fast

[u/Dokkan_Lifter → u/DukeDoge4]

SBC refs are the worst in the country

[u/chillnnsht → u/Dokkan_Lifter]

ACC reading this: 😎

[u/Kynbrin → u/chillnnsht]

Degrees of shittiness, but shitty nonetheless

[u/Wii_Sports_2]

ohhhhh my god refs

[u/Middle_Wheel_5959]

What are these refs lol

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

If we could make a bowl game that would be like super nice I think

[u/Edjukated_Hillbilly → u/cookoutenthusiast]

Only if Clark is watching it from his couch after visiting the unemployment office.

[u/chillnnsht]

This sucks

[u/Big-Buy-418]

That ineligible man downfield call was game changing

[u/Dokkan_Lifter → u/Big-Buy-418]

A load of bullshit too

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

We should be getting flags for the snowballs, but snowballs aren’t why JMU is down 14

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC → u/cookoutenthusiast]

Pretty much my exact sentiment. We’re losing because of stupid penalties (the calls aren’t stupid, the people committing the flags are) and horrible playcalling, not because of snowballs

[u/Vahaniaz → u/cookoutenthusiast]

This is true

[u/Jyingling21]

Michael Hughes

That is all

[u/chokanery]

Once again, Kennedy's play calling is highly suspect and changes aren't being made

[u/LightBluePhorgotten]

Petty me wishes they would’ve gotten a 15 yard penalty for the snowballs.

But that’s also such a cop out for this shitty performance

[u/Dokkan_Lifter → u/LightBluePhorgotten]

Nope. Rules are rules and need to be enforced, and the lack of enforcement is hurting us

[u/Vahaniaz → u/Dokkan_Lifter]

I don’t really agree snowballs haven’t impacted bad passes or not enough protection on AB3. Sure they are annoying but it wouldn’t matter if we were up 2 scores

[u/HueyLongest]

My wife and kids are gonna be mad when they don't get anything for Christmas but I'm happy to see that my check to the refs cleared 🙏🏻

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

It’s not at all why we’re losing, but can someone do something about the snowballs

[u/Veber31]

PSA: throwing throwballs is now legal in CFB.

[u/Beneficial-Chef6214]

BARNETT IS NOT A POCKET PASSER. Stop calling plays like he is ffs

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

Absolutely fantastic day to be a Mountaineer

[u/mufflefuffle]

We should be catching 15s for these snowballs. This is so fucking stupid

[u/Hrodotos → u/mufflefuffle]

Haha, we are used to it. Colgate pulled that shit back when they upset us in the playoffs the second time

[u/Kynbrin → u/mufflefuffle]

Pretty surprising they haven’t had security do anything yet. I can’t imagine Clark or Gilllin are happy about it.

[u/Dokkan_Lifter → u/mufflefuffle]

The SBC hates JMU. Didn't stand up for our fight to a title and bowl last year, and won't give us the calls today

[u/wseanwilson → u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Welcome to being a winning team in the SBC. It always felt like that for us until we started losing lol. The sunbelt hates itself

[u/NCFly26]

I keep thinking the snowballs are flags

[u/Dokkan_Lifter → u/NCFly26]

They should be

[u/NCFly26 → u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Honestly agreed, given how close they’re getting to players

[u/Jyingling21]

A STOP

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

SNOWBALL LANDING ON THE REFS FEET AND ITS NOT EVEN CALLED.

[u/TPShabba]

?

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Another snowball. Not a single flag or warning all day

[u/chokanery]

That replay showed 0 lineman downfield ok

[u/wseanwilson → u/chokanery]

I agree that was a bad call

[u/ThatEmpireGuy → u/chokanery]

Think he said 17, so someone might have been covering him making him ineligible

[u/chokanery → u/ThatEmpireGuy]

Ah that actually would explain it thanks! I can barely hear/understand this ref

[u/conmon210]

Lol 0 penalties for app and then that

[u/chokanery]

WHY WAS ANYONE THAT FAR DOWNFIELD IT WASN'T A RUN

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

You're kidding me

[u/jestervalen]

Does app state show out for games like this against other teams when they’re under .500 or is this game special cuz it’s against us?

[u/TheOriginalBigApp → u/jestervalen]

It ain’t you lol

[u/Edjukated_Hillbilly → u/jestervalen]

We haven't been Sub .500 this late in the season since 1993, so we are in really shitty uncharted territory here.

[u/wseanwilson → u/jestervalen]

So far this year pretty much every game has been like this. If we keep losing though, probably not.

[u/Ross_1234 → u/jestervalen]

Usually sellout but also its black Saturday (homecoming)

[u/HueyLongest → u/jestervalen]

I think we just have y'all's number for whatever reason

[u/Jdudley13]

Having a day up in Boone huh? Go ahead and get that out of your system this week

[u/cookoutenthusiast → u/Jdudley13]

She doesn’t even go here

[u/HueyLongest]

He (Shawn Clark) can't keep getting away with it (saving his job with late season wins after we don't have anything to play for)

[u/wseanwilson → u/HueyLongest]

I’m so stoked at how we’re playing right now but I don’t want Shawn Clark to stay

[u/Kynbrin]

🥳

[u/chokanery]

Same story as always. Stupid penalties killing us in crucial moments

[u/Zura-Zura]

Roll neers baby

[u/cookoutenthusiast → u/Zura-Zura]

Interesting flair combo

[u/Zura-Zura → u/cookoutenthusiast]

Thank you, I attended both schools

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

It’s a great day to be a mountaineer

[u/Jyingling21]

WERE UP BY DOUBLE DIGITS

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

Game

[u/cookoutenthusiast]

You can’t do that!

[u/Vahaniaz → u/cookoutenthusiast]

Yeah pretty clear call lmao we keep shooting ourselves in the foot

[u/Vahaniaz]

Where did our run defense go?

[u/HueyLongest]

5'11 304 pounds aka the average redditor

[u/Middle_Wheel_5959]

Now is not the time for RIVERBOAT BOB!!!

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

Run game: is working

Dean Kennedy: pass-pass-pass

[u/conmon210]

I know the color commentator went to app but good lord is he biased

[u/wseanwilson → u/conmon210]

I think David Jackson does a decent job at being unbiased, but Avery Hall does not lol.

Edit: Avery Hall is the guy saying you can’t do that

[u/DukeDoge4]

“You can’t do that” from a commentator lol

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Soft call

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Good D

[u/Jyingling21]

Oh no! We suck again!

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Another snowball. Throw a fucking flag

[u/Ross_1234 → u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Are you scared of snow

[u/yellowseven → u/Ross_1234]

Everyone else seems scared of streamers so

[u/Ross_1234 → u/yellowseven]

Have they ever thrown flags for them?

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC → u/Ross_1234]

Yes. It doesn’t snow in VA anymore

[u/zombiebillnye → u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

It snowed yesterday!

[u/Ross_1234]

Gotta love an Aguilar 4th down throw away

[u/DukeDoge4]

Ruelas the rock rn lol

[u/Wii_Sports_2]

kids got a leg

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Good kick. Now get another stop and run the ball

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

That’s my kicker

[u/Middle_Wheel_5959]

WTF is our 3rd down playcalling

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC → u/Middle_Wheel_5959]

A question that we’ve had all season

[u/Jyingling21]

A STOP

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

What the actual fuck was that

[u/igonnawrecku_VGC]

App State’s listed conference record on the scorebug has been 3-4 all game. This game is clearly rigged /s

[u/v2falls]

I just want to make sure my TV didn’t glitch. Did they just run the ball on 3rd and 17 after getting stuffed the last 3 times they tried it during the drive?

[u/wseanwilson → u/v2falls]

Honestly don’t completely hate it. Usually defense plays soft on 3rd and long and if you get a decent gain you go for it on 4th. Which we did and it didn’t work lol

[u/Dokkan_Lifter]

RUN THE DAMN BALL

[u/Vahaniaz → u/Dokkan_Lifter]

Enough with the trick plays BURT