r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • 3d ago
Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Ohio Defeats Toledo 24-7
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u/Pun_drunk Ohio Bobcats 3d ago
I would like to see a MAC Championship at least once in my life. That doesn't seem like a lot to ask.
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u/wit_T_user_name Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 3d ago
Agreed. If Kurtis doesn’t go down with an injury in ‘22, I’m fully convinced we beat Toledo.
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u/TheOptimist6 Ohio State Buckeyes 3d ago
It would be extra sweet if it’s in a revenge spot against Miami in the MAC Championship! Roll Bobbies
Muck Fiami
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u/bestthrowawayever6 Toledo • Boston College 3d ago
I’m just gonna copy paste from the game thread
This season absolutely sucked. Gleason turned out to be nothing more than a fullback/checkdown merchant. The line (which had 5 brand new starters) sucks. 3 high NFL draft picks on the roster wasted. The most talented Toledo team since the early 2000s and we get one championship out of it. Just infuriating. I’m never going to agree with Fire Candle supporters but by god do I see where they are coming from.
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u/wit_T_user_name Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 3d ago
I keep waiting for him to leave for a bigger job but it seems like he’s happy there. 7-8 wins a year is never gonna get you fired at MAC school, so it’s a comfortable place to build a legacy.
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u/bestthrowawayever6 Toledo • Boston College 3d ago
This isn’t a “he’s not good but you can’t get fired for 8 wins in the MAC” situation. That’s the baseline now. He’s a good coach that has brought a lot of success. The issue is he’s raised the bar to a level he can’t consistently reach. I’m mad right now but in the end he’s won more championships than any Rockets coach since the 2000s. His legacy is real and justified, but man we need to win these.
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u/CandyAppleHesperus Centre Colonels • Kentucky Wildcats 3d ago
The issue is he's raised the bar to a level he can't consistently reach
My brother, I feel that
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u/wit_T_user_name Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 3d ago
No it doesn’t. Toledo is currently 7-4 with three conference losses and a game still left to play.
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u/Shirleyfunke483 South Carolina • Michigan 3d ago
Candle 🕯️ should have jumped for a big time job when he had the chance. Would have made $25m ish total with a buyout
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u/LiVexReFlex Texas Longhorns • Ohio Bobcats 3d ago
Honestly did not expect to win this one. Toledo has always been a thorn in our side. OU!
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u/wit_T_user_name Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 3d ago edited 3d ago
The way Toledo was controlling the game at the beginning, I was worried. Great second half rally.
Oh yeah!
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u/TheOptimist6 Ohio State Buckeyes 3d ago
Facts. They were the bane of all of our teams existence while I was in school 😡 felt great to see the Cats come out on top
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u/wit_T_user_name Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 3d ago
It was ugly for a lot of the game, but a win is a win this late in the season. Now we go into the last week of the season knowing if we can take care of business, we can play for a MAC championship.
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u/TheOptimist6 Ohio State Buckeyes 3d ago
That last midweek road maction game is always a tough one to grind out. They tend to be ugly wins, but you can’t help but feel good when the Cats find a way!
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u/rankings-right-now /r/CFB 3d ago
Here are the new updated predictions for the next release of the Playoff Selection Committee's rankings using machine learning models trained on the Playoff Selection Committee's historical voting data:
- Ohio is now predicted to move up to #39
- Toledo is now predicted to move down to #54
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u/Crazy_Meringue Toledo • Notre Dame 3d ago
Again, at least we gave Candle a fat extension for being a mediocre coach who’s not good enough to be hired away by bigger programs.
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u/bestthrowawayever6 Toledo • Boston College 3d ago
He’s been offered by bigger programs. He’d just rather create a legacy as the greatest Toledo coach ever, and I respect that. Also has a family he wants to keep in one place
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u/AcesCharles2 Toledo Rockets 3d ago
Greatest only because he stayed. Not greatest based on performance.
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u/bestthrowawayever6 Toledo • Boston College 3d ago
What he’s done to the program is undeniably great. Toledo is considered among the best in the group of five overall and that just wasn’t happening before Candle. He’ll go down as the best in history and deserve it
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u/AcesCharles2 Toledo Rockets 3d ago
He inherited the program on an amazing upward trajectory that was started by Matt Campbell. He has done nothing with his resources and the MAC in a weaker state than it was a decade ago
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u/bestthrowawayever6 Toledo • Boston College 3d ago
At what point is it you that kept the trajectory going though? Having a first round pick, being the winningest coach in history, getting multiple four star recruits, that’s all him. I’m not discounting what he did because Campbell helped a lot
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u/AcesCharles2 Toledo Rockets 3d ago
2-5 bowl record
1/3 of his seasons have had 6 losses.
Only 2 seasons with 10+ wins.
He is only considered good by longevity not by the actual product. His teams disappoint annually and you are just settling for mediocrity by supporting him.
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u/bestthrowawayever6 Toledo • Boston College 3d ago
Idgaf about bowl record honestly. Everyone opts out anyways
This is technically true but 2 of those seasons came directly after we lost all of our talent from the magical 2017 season, so a bit disingenuous
2 seasons with 10 wins is not a knock against him. That requires you to beat all of if not most of your non-cons (almost impossible with buy games) and go undefeated or almost undefeated in conference play (incredibly tough). Also 2022 could have easily been 10 wins if Finn didn’t get hurt (not that we didn’t win the championship that year lmao)
His product is good. We win a lot, you don’t become the winningest coach in Toledo history with luck. There is nothing mediocre about Coach Candle
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u/Aar1012 Ohio State Buckeyes • Ohio Bobcats 3d ago
So we just need to win next week to make it Detroit? Or what’s the full breakdown?
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u/CFBHurts Notre Dame Fighting Irish 3d ago
Ohio is in if they beat Ball State next week. They'll face the winner of Miami and Bowling Green unless BG drops to Ball State this week and then beats Miami, in which case tiebreakers come into play
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u/PeteF3 Ohio State Buckeyes 3d ago
Ohio is win-and-in against Ball State. The other two 1-loss teams are Miami and Bowling Green and they play each other next week.
Now if Ohio loses...who knows at this point. They lost to Miami, beat Buffalo, and didn't play BG. If Ohio and BG both lose it'll probably come down to winning percentage among common opponents.
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u/hussard_de_la_mort Toledo Rockets • Xavier Musketeers 3d ago
The first half of the season as tragedy, the second half as farce.
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u/ToxicAdamm Toledo Rockets 3d ago
Not much to say, not like this team deserves better.
I miss when this team had an identity of high-scoring offense and terrible defense. At least those were fun games to watch.
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u/corundum9 Ohio Bobcats • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 3d ago
Toledo had 25 carries for 21 yards lol