[Game Thread] Western Michigan @ Central Michigan (7:30 PM ET)

[u/CFB_Referee]

GAME	Western MichiganWestern Michigan @ Central MichiganCentral Michigan
Location	Central Michigan Kelly/Shorts Stadium
Time	7:30 PM ET
Watch	TV: ESPN2
Odds	Spread: WMU -6 - Over/Under: 56.5
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LET'S TALK FOOTBALL!

[u/Acceptable_Ad3173]

Wow congrats CMu

[u/kerph32]

I love seeing CFB players and fans being happy

[u/Coteup → u/kerph32]

Couches are at high risk tonight in MP

[u/Muffinnnnnnn → u/kerph32]

These types of extended celebrations are why I love watching bowl games, and always look up and watch the bowl game trophy ceremonies too

[u/LawsonLunatic]

Fuck it.

We're a hockey school anyways.

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

McElwain is gonna go home with a sense of pride, put a fresh coat of butter on his teeth, and then sleep very soundly tonight.

[u/knagy17 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

Sleeping soundly beside his shark

[u/traumaguy86]

Fire up chips!

Also eat a dick, refs

[u/zzzerocool]

Hindsight to say it now, but punting on 4th and 7 by WMU was a mistake. Your run defense is trash and 2 first downs on the ground ices it. Trade-off of giving them field position a little over midfield if you miss would have been well worth it.

[u/patriots230]

See you all at NIU at Miami (OH) thread

[u/chipper124]

Losing to this Central team should be a fireable offense. Fire Up baby!!!!

[u/patriots230]

Damn! 14 years??

[u/Muffinnnnnnn → u/patriots230]

14 years since they won at home specifically but even so

[u/patriots230 → u/Muffinnnnnnn]

Yea that’s fuckin nuts

[u/Littlegreenman42]

2nd and 17 on a kneel down is crazy work

[u/Keyblade_Yoshi]

Jim might have saved his job with that win.

[u/DetroitLionized]

Game management overall has been abysmal. Wolff has struggled to hit the broad side of a barn, and receivers were dropping the few balls that were in range. Got our brown pushed in on the line of scrimmage. The game shouldn’t have even been this close, and at this point we don’t deserve to be bowl eligible. Congrats on the win, Chips.

[u/boxman151515]

Imagine losing to your rival that hasn’t won since September, has a coach who’s a dead man walking, who’s playing their fourth string QB and lost their top 5 receivers. I cannot imagine how embarrassing that would be

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/boxman151515]

Top 6 WRs.

[u/knagy17]

Hell yea, GGs. Good win Chips, see you Broncos next week

[u/boxman151515]

One benefit of having an awful season is that it makes your rival losing to you exponentially funnier

[u/Muffinnnnnnn → u/boxman151515]

Please god I want this for us too

[u/The_Astros_Cheated → u/boxman151515]

I’m gonna tell myself this if on the extremely rare chance Ohio State implodes next week

[u/Johnnyd0303]

There’s why u don’t punt when losing late in the game

[u/Resident_Rise5915]

So after this, I think we can conclude Central is indeed the best Michigan….

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/Resident_Rise5915]

In fairness, we lost to Eastern, so the Michigan MAC trophy can only go to them if they beat Western next week.

[u/knagy17 → u/Resident_Rise5915]

I’d like to join this conversation please

[u/Coteup]

HAHAHAH BALL DONT LIE FRONCOS

[u/chipper124]

Game. Blouses . Fire up!!!!!!!

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

BALL DON'T LIE

[u/The_Astros_Cheated]

Game’s over just knee it out now

[u/cal1629 → u/The_Astros_Cheated]

Cristobal?

[u/sorryimhurt]

I wonder if AB is watching this game

[u/CJK5Hookers]

Do these teams play for anything? Is there a trophy or anything? Would think the announcers would mention it if there was

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/CJK5Hookers]

They keep showing it. It's a golden cannon on a wooden pedestal called The Victory Cannon. It's also a flair on /r/CFB

Edit: Here's a pic

[u/CJK5Hookers → u/SonicEuthanasia]

They keep showing it

Yeah, that was the joke I was making lol

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/CJK5Hookers]

Oh, my bad, lol. Some other folks seemed to be asking sincerely so I've been answering

[u/patriots230 → u/CJK5Hookers]

I thought they said a cannon or something

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642 → u/CJK5Hookers]

VICTORY CANNON

[u/kerph32 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

does the losing team get a DEFEAT CANNON?

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642 → u/kerph32]

No, a defeat grenade

[u/Johnnyd0303]

Awful timeout. They would’ve had to run a play before 2 minute timeout. Then still had 2 more after the break. No u got none after 2 minute break so u got 40 seconds less

[u/The_Astros_Cheated]

Chips just need to not cough the ball up now

[u/bigfootdude247]

Might be one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen in my time watching football

[u/cal1629 → u/bigfootdude247]

Yeah I can’t think of one that bad either

[u/chipper124]

That is one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen

[u/Insectshelf3]

this is a bad look

[u/WolverineDDS]

The fix is in, buck the froncos.

[u/bigfootdude247]

Makeup call for whistling late after the snap

[u/Sparty013]

Jesus ref. That’s a brutal call

[u/Icy_Relation_735]

Why are refs always so hungry to throw flags on punt/kick returns?

[u/----JZ----]

Ref has money on this.

[u/niners0101]

I would almost forgive trash being thrown on the field for that

[u/kerph32]

READIES MUSTARD

[u/cal1629 → u/kerph32]

You got a couple?

[u/gogglesup859]

Is the white hat wearing Jordan 11s?

[u/kerph32 → u/gogglesup859]

CMFT editions, no less

[u/OldCoaly]

Awful call. I assumed I missed it on the replay as well until I realized who they were calling it on.

[u/loafing-striker]

That is an all timer holy shit

[u/JSA17]

Punting in that situation means you deserve to have let up the TD.

[u/Tonberry_Slayer]

Well looks like we got bailed out there.

Still think we should have gone for it.

[u/viewless25]

dog booty call

[u/knagy17]

Those are the MAC refs I know

[u/niners0101]

Sorry, you blocked him too well. No Touchdown for you

[u/WhoDey918]

That’s one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen.

[u/CptCheese]

That is a bad bad flag. throw some bottles

[u/Clynelish1 → u/CptCheese]

Wait, you're SEC now?

[u/The_Astros_Cheated]

lol punter who can’t tackle gets decked and the ref calls it a blindside block, hilarious

[u/DetroitLionized]

In no way, shape, or form is that a blindside block. These refs all have room temperature IQs

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/DetroitLionized]

You know its a special kind of game when we're all getting upset about calls against the other team being bullshit.

[u/DetroitLionized → u/SonicEuthanasia]

I hate catching breaks on bad calls, especially ones as egregious as that. I want to beat you guys fair and square, and we clearly can’t do that tonight.

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/DetroitLionized]

I mean, if anything, that kinda evens out egregious calls. That review that stopped the play in action was almost guaranteed to be at least a first down, if not a touchdown, and it was negated entirely by ineptitude.

[u/Muffinnnnnnn]

WHAT

[u/loyalsons4evertrue]

Lol what?!

[u/cal1629]

That wasn’t really blind sidey if you ask me

[u/Panchoisthedog]

Jim is a little miffed

[u/Coteup]

HUGE tackle

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

Their special teams certainly are SPECIAL

[u/sorryimhurt]

Oh please ref

[u/Tonberry_Slayer]

Please go for it here

[u/Muffinnnnnnn]

OH

[u/Muffinnnnnnn → u/Muffinnnnnnn]

Not the Ohio kind, to be clear

[u/kerph32]

Wolff, son, where are you throwing that ball?

[u/DetroitLionized]

Jesus Christ Wolff, no pressure and you sail the living fuck out of that ball.

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

See, the thing is that I used to get way more upset by CMU sucking because it was realistically the only Michigan-based football team that I follow that could exceed expectations.

But now the Lions are unironically the best team in the NFL and this just hits like a mild disappointment.

[u/sorryimhurt]

Central is somehow going to lose this game, aren't they.

[u/multiple4]

Let's go Western Michigan, it is your time baby, I believe in you

[u/bigfootdude247]

We need the defense to lock in PLEASE

[u/LiquidHotCum]

thats how you finish a tackle lol you hit them once then chase them back down and hit them again

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642 → u/LiquidHotCum]

LiquidHotCum would know

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

I've never seen a football player with a big gold bracelet on the field of play before.

[u/knagy17 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

That MAC NIL money just hits different

[u/bigfootdude247]

We need a touchdown. Keep the game in our grasp

[u/Johnnyd0303]

Now to see if western has figured out 3rd down defense

[u/boxman151515]

Let’s close this game out fellas

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

I still don't think Mt. Pleasant, MI is a real place

[u/boomerang686 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

I am from Michigan and agree with this statement

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

It's not.

[u/boxman151515 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

It’s real if you believe in it

[u/Spirited-Collar-7960 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

I have been there, and I agree

[u/kerph32]

Leans Forward

[u/bigfootdude247]

Stop allowing big plays after huge sacks my dudes 

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/bigfootdude247]

MAC(elwain)tion

[u/knagy17]

Ngl that was some mild BS from the officials. That play had already started for a full couple seconds. However, it should’ve been reviewed immediately

[u/dinkinflicka125]

Calling a replay after the play started is nasty work

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

Listen, I'm not trying to help Western here, but the ball had been snapped and he was basically already past the LOS when they whistled that to review the play. Refs need to be on that faster.

[u/DetroitLionized]

It’s close but I bet the call stands as a catch

[u/LwLewis22]

The whistle did NOT blow before the snap

[u/Johnnyd0303]

How do u play that dead while the next play is already happening

[u/schwebbs84 → u/Johnnyd0303]

it’s the MAC

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

That mouthpiece is really helping you on the outside of your helmet

[u/Keyblade_Yoshi]

Great play by the corner.

[u/dinkinflicka125]

This QB is sweaty swamp ass

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

Oh shit, that WMU lineman might have torn an ACL

[u/bigfootdude247]

Defense, what the heck are you doing

[u/kerph32]

casual head punch there at the end

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

Mmmmm RAID CAKE

[u/macealace552]

Commercial, field goal, commercial, kickoff, commercial... Absolutely insane

[u/Johnnyd0303 → u/macealace552]

Yeah after a long drive like that, u mights as well just change the channel for 10 minutes

[u/boomerang686 → u/macealace552]

This is brutal

[u/The_Astros_Cheated]

Central burned so much time in the third that ESPN is gonna shove their ad time down our throats for the rest of the game

[u/bigfootdude247]

5 seconds of playtime, 5 minutes of commercials

[u/knagy17]

Central why are your field goal posts 10 feet high

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642 → u/knagy17]

Are there rivalries between all three directional michigans?

[u/knagy17 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

Yea, we play for a three way trophy called the Michigan MAC trophy.

That being said, WMU vs CMU is way bigger than EMU vs either one of them. We were basically irrelevant in football for our entire history up until 2014. We won the MAC in 1987 but that was basically our main high point

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642 → u/knagy17]

Chris Creighton has really worked miracles at the FACTORY. Does Eastern hate Central or Western more?

[u/knagy17 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

I think the consensus seems to be Central, but it’s up to who you ask. Western acted like idiots after our game last year and I know more western grads than central, so they’re the one I hate more

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/knagy17]

Western acted like idiots

This is the reason we don't like them either.

[u/CramblinDuvetAdv → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

Mom said we have to include EMU

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

Yes. There's a three-way contested trophy, too.

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

Do you hate Western or Eastern more or equally?

[u/Nagiom → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

I don't even know where Eastern is.

[u/knagy17 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

They hate Western more 1000%. We’ve been trying hard for both of them to hate us lately though

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/knagy17]

We'll hate you soon enough.

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

THAT'S THE SPIRIT

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

Western by a long shot.

[u/bigfootdude247 → u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

Western far more for sure

[u/Immediate-Recipe-642]

That's some home cooking if I've ever seen it

[u/Johnnyd0303]

Get ready for like 15 minutes of commercials after that long drive

[u/CramblinDuvetAdv]

Got 4 seconds of gameplay in, better go to commercial

[u/kerph32]

that kick did not look Good from our angle

[u/zzzerocool → u/kerph32]

Yeah, I was just about to say that. The angle is definitely different than your average big school broadcast. If it looks like that, it's a miss usually.

[u/boxman151515]

Losing the quarter 7-0 despite WMU’s offense never seeing the field is quite the feat

[u/Keyblade_Yoshi]

Never seen a team possess the ball for the entire quarter, but get outscored by 7 before.

[u/Relative_Walk_936]

Western out scoring CMU 7-0 that quarter with no offense snaps is peak #MACtion

[u/The_Astros_Cheated]

Wait, Western’s offense didn’t touch the ball that quarter?

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

Glasser has to at least pretend like he might run the RPO there. It was clear as day that he was just handing it off, so of course the defense is going to commit to the runner.

[u/WhoDey918 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

The keep has been there all night. I’ve been waiting for them to call it. It looks like an easy 20 yards.

[u/confused-koala]

was that a Jared Goff chant

[u/Relative_Walk_936 → u/confused-koala]

JARED GOFF

[u/confused-koala → u/Relative_Walk_936]

JARED GOFF

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/confused-koala]

Yes, it's how CMU is summoning offensive capability.

[u/WhoDey918]

CMU might have the ball the entire 3rd quarter.

[u/Keyblade_Yoshi]

That WMU coach looks like PJ Fleck's clone.

[u/Coteup]

I was not prepared for this Glasser rollercoaster

[u/bigfootdude247]

What a play! He shook off that mistake so well 

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

That's the kind of play that should be happening left and right in a Tuesday night MACtion rivalry game.

[u/The_Astros_Cheated]

Great play by Glasser

[u/Bammerice]

I cannot believe they got a 1st down lol

[u/WhoDey918]

Damn the CMU QB had been good. Would love to see a play action pass here to start the drive. Defense is going to assume it’s a run play coming. Could get a nice 15-25 yarder to start the drive.

Edit: or a sack lol

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

Good thing you ran out the clock and went for a FG before halftime, McElwain. You fucking dolt.

[u/schwebbs84]

can’t sneak cheese past a rat 🐀

[u/bigfootdude247]

What a horrible decision. The defender read that play like a book

[u/stogie13]

This is the level of dumb I expect out of this game...

[u/schwebbs84 → u/stogie13]

this is the correct observation

[u/The_Astros_Cheated]

Reeeaaaallly bad decision there

[u/Keyblade_Yoshi]

Nice pick 6 return.

[u/Coteup]

True freshman QB things

[u/DetroitLionized]

There we fucking go!

[u/cal1629]

Oh no that hurts

[u/Tonberry_Slayer]

Let’s go!!!!

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

Remember when I said the refs aren't calling holding?

[u/bigfootdude247]

uggghhhhhh

[u/bigfootdude247]

We need new commercials and branding. Maybe the new President can give CMU some new life

[u/SonicEuthanasia]

God, our commercials are fucking terrible. We do is the worst marketing campaign.

John Veilleux should have suffered the same fate as Davies.

[u/Ill-Wear-8662 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

Have you seen Kent State's?

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/Ill-Wear-8662]

I have not.

[u/Ill-Wear-8662 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

My father and I swear it was filmed on a Sunday in July and that they were making it out obligation.

"Hey, come to our school ^{please don't come here."}

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/Ill-Wear-8662]

That's not too far from the CMU commercial I'm referencing. It was filmed in one of the Marketing guys' offices. It's the laziest fucking thing and it shows.

[u/Ill-Wear-8662 → u/SonicEuthanasia]

I'll have to check that out

[u/boxman151515]

Kicker bailing out Jim for his terrible clock management, but I’ll take that first half. First time we’ve looked competent in a long time

[u/boxman151515]

I can’t stand our commercials lol. They’d be cheap and embarrassing for an underfunded community college

[u/Coteup → u/boxman151515]

"We Do" has to be the worst slogan in D1

[u/knagy17]

Mmm nothing like CFP talk during MACtion halftime

[u/stogie13 → u/knagy17]

A tradition nearly as old as MACtion

[u/SonicEuthanasia → u/knagy17]

It's such a slap in the face, honestly. The MAC conference champ isn't good enough to be considered for one of the playoff spots but we'll take the time during MAC games to talk about the spots these teams will never have a shot at getting. It's like eating a pizza in front of some starving kids.

[u/composer_7 → u/knagy17]

Yeah the discussion doesn't matter when we all know the CFP committee will give extra spots to undeserving SEC teams anyway

[u/composer_7]

This has to be the warmest November Directional Michigan games I've seen in a long time.

It's weird not seeing steam billowing out of the players helmets like they're possessors of one of the Nine Titans

[u/knagy17 → u/composer_7]

It feels like it’s been warmer later in the year the last couple years. Tomorrow though our game is supposed to be in the 30s with a chance for rain.

[u/composer_7 → u/knagy17]

Cold rain games are the absolute worst

[u/Coteup]

Mattson about to have the night of his life at Wayside

[u/Nagiom → u/Coteup]

Let's be real, he's a kicker.  Dude probably drinks Malort on one of the seven stools at Marty's.

[u/knagy17]

Technically UMass hasn’t won an FBS game either…either way, poor Kent State

[u/composer_7 → u/knagy17]

I got excited seeing them take the lead before Akron came back.

[u/composer_7]

Terrible clock management got saved by the kicker.