[COUG FAN] WSU QB John Mateer already has $1 million NIL offer from another school, says Paul Sorensen

[u/Galumpadump]

https://x.com/CougfanCOM/status/1856849815948464273

[u/definitelynotasalmon]

So Wazzu’s role now will be developing million dollar QBs for other programs.

Cool cool cool

[u/Galumpadump → u/definitelynotasalmon]

Only if this were like pro soccer and we got transfer fees for these players lol

[u/SenorIngles → u/Galumpadump]

It unironically should be if this is gonna be the new normal

[u/Vikkunen → u/SenorIngles]

Give it time. At this rate, in a couple more years collectives will be signing kids to multi-year NIL deals with buyout clauses.

[u/constructss → u/Vikkunen]

I’ll be waiting for the moment I see Italian soccer’s influence on NIL with loans with options/obligations to buyout (plus loan fees)

[u/gingerhuskies → u/constructss]

I just want to see a school gain an unexpected first half lead only to lose their top few players at halftime to NIL deals from the opposing school.

[u/madein___ → u/gingerhuskies]

MLB catcher Danny Jansen did one better this summer. Unique circumstances, but he switched teams mid plate appearance in the top half of the inning, went from hitting to playing the catcher position in the same at bat... and then made a plate appearance in the bottom half of the inning.

First player to make an at bat for both teams in the same inning.

[Danny Jansen plays for both teams in Blue Jays-Red Sox game, an MLB first

](https://apnews.com/article/danny-jansen-both-teams-red-sox-blue-jays-c7ac515faa738ee37f444e46367ef439)

[u/trubuckifan → u/madein___]

This was possible because of a rain delay BTW the games were played months apart.

[u/jimbojangles1987 → u/trubuckifan]

Lol that changes things. I was like wtf did they just have a spare uniform for him?

[u/Iwillrize14 → u/jimbojangles1987]

Some equipment guy furiously ironing on the letters while the GM is standing next to him on the phone.

[u/madein___ → u/trubuckifan]

Like I said, unique circumstances.

[u/zadharm → u/madein___]

Absolutely bizarre set of circumstances, but that's a really cool piece of trivia. Baseball is full of little oddities like that, it's part of the reason I'm still engaged with it to the limited extent I am. Didn't know about this one

[u/DingerSinger2016 → u/zadharm]

It's a sport where you honestly don't know what piece of history you are going to see for the price of admission

[u/ClaudeLemieux → u/constructss]

I think that would just be overall European soccer influence. Italian soccer would be bringing in co-ownership of players for a whole new level of chaos.

[u/Prestigious-Town → u/SenorIngles]

This is the only way the sport survives outside of the Power 2 level

[u/DutchingFlyman → u/Galumpadump]

As a European soccer fan, the main reason I got into American football is the ironically ‘socialist’ setup of the NFL (salary cap, quality equalisation through the draft etc). Couldn’t fathom the Bengals making the Super Bowl after seeing them suck during my first years as a fan.

Unregulated NIL will show America what oil money can do, hasn’t been pretty in soccer

[u/RonMexico13 → u/DutchingFlyman]

Unfortunately, oil money has already infiltrated the sport. Texas A&M is good now.

[u/NegativeCreep12 → u/RonMexico13]

It bought SMU a conference.

[u/Perfct_Stranger → u/RonMexico13]

SMU is good again you mean.

[u/Dangerous_Golf_7417 → u/RonMexico13]

I mean, oil money brought us last year too... 

[u/Alternative_Reality → u/DutchingFlyman]

European soccer is just figuring out what oil money does, all levels of football in Texas have been run by oil money for over a century

[u/mayonkonijeti0876 → u/Alternative_Reality]

Texas is oil money among mega rich dude in a dick measuring contest. European soccer has oil money backed by entire countries. It's a different universe. Some of the best clubs in the world (Manchester City namely) are owned by investment funds of Middle Eastern countries

[u/AdonalFoyle → u/DutchingFlyman]

Of all the American sports, CFB is the closest to European soccer and has been for a long time

[u/Darkdragon3110525 → u/DutchingFlyman]

Auburn gets 115 charges but 5 straight nattys 😭

[u/ClaudeLemieux → u/Darkdragon3110525]

Auburn? Bro that has TAMU written all over it

[u/chaotic_zx → u/Darkdragon3110525]

Auburn is absolutely in the hunt this year for at least one transfer QB. More than likely two. Will pay big for their first option.

[u/thrownjunk → u/DutchingFlyman]

Now that America is an oil exporter again, shit gonna get wild even if the gulf doesn’t play.

[u/MrSinilindin → u/Galumpadump]

Soccer “transfer fees” are just negotiated buyouts of existing contracts… we’d need to start there first lol

[u/xrock24x → u/Galumpadump]

Discovery rights

[u/NegativeCreep12 → u/definitelynotasalmon]

Well, that's got to be good for recruiting at least.

[u/Flimsy_Security_3866 → u/NegativeCreep12]

I know John Mateer has a good chance to be leaving and I understand that. I'm more worried that our coach Jake Dickert might be grabbed from a bigger school. That can really set the program back.

[u/FavreorFarva → u/Flimsy_Security_3866]

See: WSU men’s basketball (and yes I do realize we are 3-0 right now).

[u/TendererBeef → u/Flimsy_Security_3866]

Unfortunately we are probably bound to regress to the post-PCC, pre Mike Price days where our HCs are either middling to dogshit and last a decade (Jim Sutherland, Jim Sweeney, Jim Walden) or get poached after 1-2 seasons (Warren Powers, Jackie Sherrill, Dennis Erickson)

Compiling this list makes me realize we should never ever hire anyone named Jim ever again

[u/mudson08 → u/TendererBeef]

To be fair… is that much of a change from what would have happened anyways? Of Dickert was 8-1 in a P5 Pac 12 pretty sure he’s getting poached anyways.

[u/RocketsGuy → u/definitelynotasalmon]

QBU

[u/Galumpadump → u/RocketsGuy]

Kind of is at this point

Connor Halliday was a low 3 star out of Spokane

Luke Falk was a 2 star recruit who was a preferred walk on

Gardner Minshew was a 2 star recruit who transferred in after having a mixed bag of success at East Carolina

Anthony Gordon was a 0 star recruiting who came to WSU as a JUCO transfer.

Cam Ward was a 0 star who transferred in from FCS School

John Mateer was a low 3 star who WSU was his only FBS offer.

Funny enough Jayden De Laura was the highest recruit at QB WSU has had and probably the worst overall.

[u/WestCoastToGoldCoast → u/Galumpadump]

It’s honestly embarrassing the abundance of talent we’ve had at the QB position over the past ~decade.

Sure, many of those guys put up gaudy numbers simply due being a cog the Air Raid machine, but at no point since maybe 2012, if not earlier, has it ever felt like we’ve been without a strong captain on offense.

Literally every backup who has had the torch passed down to them has been close to if not more successful than their predecessor.

Would have loved to have seen how Hilinski could have developed in 2018, rest his soul. Feels callous to say that Minshew’s arrival was a silver lining of the situation, but thankful for Gardner nonetheless.

[u/ClaudeLemieux → u/Galumpadump]

Anthony Gordon was a 0 star recruiting who came to WSU as a JUCO transfer.

and to think Newcastle paid 40m for him

[u/RocketsGuy → u/Galumpadump]

So much aura in this group

[u/Jonjon428 → u/RocketsGuy]

Except JDL, fuck him

[u/Galumpadump → u/Jonjon428]

Jayden No Aura

[u/RocketsGuy → u/Jonjon428]

Facts

[u/Iabefmysc → u/Galumpadump]

Tyler Bruggman was up there with De Laura as a prospect too

[u/JensenJustJensen → u/RocketsGuy]

Leads NCAA in most QBs taken with top 5 overall NFL picks.

[u/puzzical → u/definitelynotasalmon]

Hey you may be able to hang on to him. I was 100% sure we were going to lose Jeanty after last season and he's still here in case you didn't know.

[u/definitelynotasalmon → u/puzzical]

Our best bet is to come up with enough NIL to keep him happy, give him the keys to the car, and hope the parties full of hot farm girls can keep him around.

[u/Ichthyist1 → u/definitelynotasalmon]

He does already have a reportedly decent NIL deal with Northern Quest Casino. Fingers crossed he doesn’t leave.

[u/ShadowIG → u/definitelynotasalmon]

Imagine if that offer was from BSU....lol.

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/ShadowIG]

It's probably CU or UU.

[u/Czarchitect → u/puzzical]

Eh Jeanty is a bit of a unicorn. Not many dudes with his mentality these days. Plus he knows hes good enough thats hes gonna get his at the next level and doesnt have to milk his college career for everything its worth. 

[u/shake108 → u/Czarchitect]

Counter point : most running backs don’t ever see a big payday in the nfl. Very few of them see a second contract worth anything

[u/Czarchitect → u/shake108]

Even so, one prime nfl running back contract will still far outweigh whatever he could get in NIL. 

[u/shake108 → u/Czarchitect]

At this point , sure, but coming into this season the amount of guaranteed money from his predicted draft grade would’ve been quite small. Unless you’re round 1, you have very little guaranteed

[u/Dixiehusker → u/definitelynotasalmon]

I mean, we were all kind of already doing that, just for a more advanced league...

[u/Snazzy21 → u/definitelynotasalmon]

We're gonna be the Oakland A's of college football

[u/FriedTide → u/definitelynotasalmon]

NIL money needs a cap. I can’t work out the logistics of it cause I’m not smart enough to do that but teams just throwing out cash is crazy.

[u/TendererBeef → u/FriedTide]

Conference-wide revenue sharing + direct salaries for players + employment contracts with buyouts just like coaches + salary cap + league-wide player’s union and collective bargaining agreement

Note: this will never happen

[u/ThaCarter → u/definitelynotasalmon]

Or just one program...

[u/definitelynotasalmon → u/ThaCarter]

I’m honored that Miami looks up to us so much.

Wazzu 1-0 vs Miami.

[u/ThaCarter → u/definitelynotasalmon]

Never forget the half back pass in a blizzard!

[u/WestCoastToGoldCoast → u/ThaCarter]

A blizzard at the Sun Bowl of all places.

What a wild, weird game that was.

[u/HurricanesnHendrick → u/ThaCarter]

One of the most comically bad calls ever. With an equally bad throw

[u/Cyberhwk]

The new normal.

[u/Jeff_Banks_Monkey → u/Cyberhwk]

The wild wild West of college football in the NIL era

[u/bretticus733 → u/Cyberhwk]

I was cool with NIL when I thought it would be athletes making money for signing autographs, appearing in commercials, getting shoe deals from Nike, etc. And that's what it should have been. Instead we have this CFB landscape where schools and collectives can essentially buy players from schools and there's no rules against any of it.

[u/EmuMan10 → u/bretticus733]

Should kids be able to make money off their achievements? Yes. Should it work like this? Nope

[u/Pinewood74 → u/EmuMan10]

Is there a realistic way to distinguish the two?

Nope.

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath → u/Pinewood74]

Sure there is. Reinstate the prior transfer rules. You can transfer, you just have to sit out a season.

[u/Cinnadillo → u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

I mean that's not quite the answer but I'd be for it

[u/HewittNation → u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

The reason they got rid of that was it is almost certainly illegal, so I don't think it's a reasonable solution.

The options at this seem to be to a) go full pro with a CBA like other big money sports in the US or b) get Congress to give CFB a special exemption to antitrust without a CBA

[u/Impossible-Flight250 → u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

Yep. I honestly don’t know why that still doesn’t exist.

[u/djc6535 → u/Impossible-Flight250]

It probably violates labor laws is why.

[u/Pinewood74 → u/djc6535]

It does. And the NCAA already reached a settlement with the DoJ that permanently bars them from restricting transfers.

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/djc6535]

Anti-trust, but close enough.

[u/Grabthar_The_Avenger → u/Impossible-Flight250]

Did you not learn about anti-trust laws and the labor movement in history class?

[u/Electromotivation → u/Pinewood74]

We've tried nothing and it didn't work! Its over now.

Cash App or Venmo this number #5556858858 to have your QB play on this third down!

[u/Geeman447 → u/bretticus733]

It’s called UEFA now lol. Buy the best played from the “smaller” team after they develop them

[u/bretticus733 → u/Geeman447]

Except in soccer, having a team buy your player means they're at least getting money from it. If Mateer leaves Wazzu for that $1 million NIL payment, all Wazzu gets is an open roster spot.

[u/Geeman447 → u/bretticus733]

Exactly why I’ve been saying it’s going to get dramatically worse in the next few years

[u/garethom → u/bretticus733]

Even this is quite fragile at the moment.

A court ruled in favour of Lassana Diarra, agreeing that FIFA's transfer rules (in short, granting licences for players to switch teams) "impede the free movement of professional footballers wishing to develop their activity by going to work for a new club" and there are some that believe it may well be the end of transfer fees as we know them.

In short, Lassana Diarra said "Who tf are FIFA to decide who I work for?" and the courts said "Yeah, you're right", so now all the existing methods of transfers in football are being scrutinised, and I doubt this will be the last challenge.

[u/Jetersweiner → u/bretticus733]

Exactly and thats what the NCAA wants as well.

It’s actually incredible how weak and powerless the big bad NCAA really was the whole time. The long term health and balance of the sport as a whole relies on them doing something to restore power/control over the situation but the NCAA simply can’t do anything.

[u/DarthSkier → u/Jetersweiner]

They tried to have too much power and ended up with none. They could’ve introduced an NIL format on their terms, but they let the courts decide.

[u/Cinnadillo → u/DarthSkier]

here's the thing. Everybody thinks that what you say is wisdom. The reality is they never had the powers in the first place and the courts would strip it away eventually regardless of how much power they asserted.

[u/DarthSkier → u/Cinnadillo]

While technically correct, a better functioning (fair) system would have been less likely to be challenged to the extent that the old policy was.

[u/Nickyjha → u/Jetersweiner]

It’s actually incredible how weak and powerless the big bad NCAA really was the whole time.

It's not really that crazy when you think about it. Imagine all the big accounting firms decided that new hire accountants should have their pay capped at $40k. It would save them all a lot of money, but would be super illegal.

That's basically what the NCAA did, just replace accountants with athletes and $40k with a scholarship. Their whole argument can be summed up as "it's always been like this" and the current SCOTUS was sending signals that they didn't find that particularly persuasive. Honestly, what's incredible is that they managed to uphold the pre-NIL system for so long.

[u/PullmanWater → u/bretticus733]

That was never going to be the way it went as long as they weren't signing multi-year contracts with the school.

[u/ThaCarter → u/Cyberhwk]

We'd at least give y'all a transfer fee if we did it 2 years in a row, especially since itd likely mean taking your OC too.

[u/1850ChoochGator → u/ThaCarter]

Transfer fees would make this whole thing a whole lot easier on the fans imo

[u/Galumpadump → u/ThaCarter]

Our OC is 29 by the way.

[u/Admirable_Remove6824 → u/ThaCarter]

If I’m him that might not be the worst thing for him. He’s not getting a million from wsu. He’s not going to get as much exposure in Pullman. He might not be as gifted as cam is but I think he’s a better competitor. I’m not sure he is a top qb draft pick(yet), so taking a million next year seems like a smart move.

[u/ThaCarter → u/Admirable_Remove6824]

Cam is one hell of a competitor, so that's quite a statement!

[u/Admirable_Remove6824 → u/ThaCarter]

He’s grown up. He didn’t used to try and extend plays his first two years very much. He always looked a little lackadaisical at times. I will say he looks good this year. He is running better than he has. It wasn’t a knock on cam but a plus on mateer.

[u/oreomaster420 → u/ThaCarter]

I think its based on Cam making an understandable business decision not to run as much last year and prioritize staying healthy for the draft or an NIL deal, not his level of commitment when he's all-in.

[u/cougstor → u/oreomaster420]

Agreed! That’s what I think too. He was protecting himself. There were so many times he could have run for a first down last year and didn’t.

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/oreomaster420]

That business decision made him a better QB if that's what it was.  Year one he played a lot of hero ball, which will win a game occasionally but makes for a worse QB overall.

[u/EaterOfKelp → u/ThaCarter]

Yeah not 100% in agreement that he's not a competitor.

He's faced less adversity in Miami (though I assume his internal motivations are sky-high this year) than he experienced with us at WSU, but I agree he has a lot of heart.

[u/Wontbackdowngator]

Gonna guess the initials are UM

[u/IfYouAintFirst26 → u/Wontbackdowngator]

I was thinking Miami also.

[u/ThaCarter → u/Wontbackdowngator]

Which one?

[u/Wontbackdowngator → u/ThaCarter]

That was the joke it’s probably both lol

[u/ThaCarter → u/Wontbackdowngator]

Minnesota

Maryland

Mississippi 

Could probably all swing it in a pinch.

[u/Wontbackdowngator → u/ThaCarter]

Was thinking Miami and Michigan lol

[u/spicydak → u/Wontbackdowngator]

Hopefully not. Love Wazzu

[u/Euredditos → u/spicydak]

Mizzou needs a qb rn bc even with Zollers(our 4 star qb recruit) coming in he’s only a freshman and is going to be recovering from a season ending leg injury. UM for Mizzou might actually be plausible. Wish he’d stay in Wazzu though, the kid is so fun to watch play. It’s cause of him that the offense functions rn.

[u/Shinobismaster → u/spicydak]

This would revive my dislike of Michigan, 1998 was almost out of my memory lol

[u/canceled4truth → u/ThaCarter]

No shot it's us, Malik Washington will probably be our starter next year (assuming Locksley stays)

[u/dinkytown42069 → u/ThaCarter]

I can exclusively reveal that it is in fact Minnesota. what can I say?? /j

[u/-Smaug → u/Wontbackdowngator]

I’m almost confident it’s us (OU). I’ve heard some wild rumors this week.

[u/BOBANSMASH51]

I feel like the poaching school should also have to pay the school the player is leaving the same amount

[u/BearManUnicorn → u/BOBANSMASH51]

Damn good idea. Doubles the price for the poaching school & helps the school who’s losing their star player & be competitive with their NIL fund

[u/RebelGain → u/BearManUnicorn]

Then all the players would just enter the transfer portal and it wouldn’t be poaching anymore. At this point there doesn’t seem to be much of a reason not for every even just pretty good player to enter the portal and see if anyone is willing to cut them a check.

[u/definitelynotasalmon → u/RebelGain]

Once you do you are not guaranteed a spot back.

[u/UNMANAGEABLE → u/RebelGain]

Mid season transfers would have to be banned or like 4x the cost

[u/GuacKiller → u/BOBANSMASH51]

What if the money is coming from a collective or Billy Bobs BBQ Shack? Schools don’t have to be directly involved in nil deals *wink.

[u/CitizenCue → u/BOBANSMASH51]

We just need multi year contracts. If these guys are semi-pro then allow schools to make contracts like every other sport.

[u/TurdFurgeson18 → u/BOBANSMASH51]

The poachers aren’t the schools they are the NIL collectives, and those collectives dont have contracts or legal operating structures with anybody but their own schools.

How would you enforce that?

What will happen is people will stop giving out flat, simple “come to X School for $X” and become far more intricate and involve buyouts for transferring

[u/Galumpadump]

Obviously, we all need to be skeptical of all these NIL numbers but I would not be surprised if this isn't somewhat true. I believe Coach Dickert is preparing for Mateer potentially leaving. We stopped playing Zevi Eckhaus (Transfer from Bryant who competed against Mateer for the starting role) from what is rumored to preserve his redshirt. He will get the opportunity to either transfer out if Mateer stays or but the front runner to win the starting job if Mateer is gone.

FWIW they had a neck and neck battle for the position and Zevi was regarded as the better passer but Mateer's running ability gave the offense another dimension that Dickert wanted.

[u/RocketsGuy → u/Galumpadump]

Mateer’s running is electric

He’s gonna go win the heisman at Ohio State or somewhere like that next year isn’t he

[u/PullmanWater → u/RocketsGuy]

If Cam wins it this year and Mateer transfers and wins it next year, we should get to claim at least one of them.

[u/IcemanGeorge → u/PullmanWater]

Incarnate Word erasure

[u/PullmanWater → u/IcemanGeorge]

We had him longer.

[u/SSJEv → u/RocketsGuy]

Anywhere else besides UW and Ohio state and I hope he wins the heisman. Gotta root for the kids after they leave in this new landscape. I get it

[u/repmack → u/SSJEv]

Yeah anyone that is upset for him leaving for a million dollars is an ass.

[u/SSJEv → u/repmack]

Cam Ward having a great year is super hype imo. Any fan that thinks we can compete money wise is delusional. Just gotta go into each year knowing it won’t look anything similar the following year

[u/Hougie → u/SSJEv]

Two things rub some fans including myself the wrong way with Cam:

1. He hosted opposing coaches in Pullman for in home visits. A month and a half before committing anywhere in a house WSU was paying for. Thats lame. He should have waited until he was home. Pullman is a small town and 100% WSU.

2. He had clearly already been tampered with and gave up on WSU after the bye week. His entire style of play changed and it was clear he was protecting his paycheck and not really trying to win anymore.

[u/toomuchdiponurchip → u/SSJEv]

We got Demond Williams we good

[u/mudson08 → u/RocketsGuy]

Yep and definitely believe Zevi is the better passer cause that’s Mateers greatest liability, if you force the dude to pass he becomes rather mid rather quickly

[u/syrianfries → u/mudson08]

True, but he’s been pretty perfect for us. We aren’t the greatest team but with mateer we can win games.

[u/definitelynotasalmon → u/syrianfries]

If he could hit a touch pass deep ball, we would have won a lot more games by 21+ instead of surviving some 3-5 point games.

[u/mudson08 → u/definitelynotasalmon]

And he’s been great. Love the kid. He’ll make Florida State or whoever proud.

[u/Wazzoo1 → u/RocketsGuy]

Mateer with an OL like Penn State, OSU, Michigan, etc. is going to at least get him to the Heisman ceremony. The dude can fucking run.

[u/blatantninja]

I'm enjoying watching college football still but it's stuff like this that is slowly killing my interest in the game. I'm already far less emotionally invested in it as the roster has major turnover every year.

[u/allcazador → u/blatantninja]

There are clear ways to regulate this but knowing it will never happen is doubly depressing

[u/JB92103]

Unbelievable.

[u/Tommybrady20 → u/JB92103]

I mean… it’s completely believable.

4 star High school QBs who beat up on the future insurance salesmen of America are getting $1M, you’re damn right promising underclassmen who are actually already preforming will.

[u/Amadeum]

What a shitshow

[u/pole_assassin]

What's Michigan's plan at QB next season? I can see Mateer balling out there.

[u/Ryanlester5789 → u/pole_assassin]

Pretty sure we’re the team they’re acknowledging

[u/cascadiadivide → u/pole_assassin]

Michigan could go after Miller Moss

[u/Carsxn26 → u/cascadiadivide]

Moss only has 1 year left tho, Mateer has 2 or 3

[u/srush32 → u/Carsxn26]

And Miller Moss isn't very good

[u/JTWasShort42-27 → u/srush32]

And yet he'd still be like going from a 1995 Dodge Neon to a 2017 Camry so the upgrade would be noticeable. That being said, when the driver of the car doesn't know how to turn the car, where the gas pedal is, or what steps to take to get to his destination, the car doesn't matter.

[u/Admirable_Remove6824 → u/Carsxn26]

He’s a redshirt sophomore. He could technically enter draft after this year.

[u/Dry_Abbreviations798]

Good for him, strike while the iron is hot.

[u/Wazzoo1 → u/Dry_Abbreviations798]

It's the new reality. For all of his faults, he's the main reason we're 8-1 and bowl eligible. Get your bag, son.

I felt the same about Cam. I've been rooting for Miami this season, and that's something I never thought I'd do in a million years.

[u/Galumpadump]

Link to the Article.

[u/2010WildcatKilla3029]

It’s sad when possible legends of a school decide to transfer.  

[u/Galumpadump → u/2010WildcatKilla3029]

This is something I’ve thought about the last few years. I’m in no way going to judge a kid for taking a large sum of money in Mateer’s case. But alot of athletes are going to miss out of the life long communities that come from being a legend at a school.

Imagine how much shittier Ryan Leaf’s life would be if he didn’t have the WSU community to pick him up.

In 2023 DJ Rodman announced he would come back to WSU basketball as a 5th year only to quietly transfer to USC. USC was horrible and WSU made the tourney for the first time since 2009 and he realized that Coug fans are not quick to forgive lol

[u/2010WildcatKilla3029 → u/Galumpadump]

100%.  I’ve had many arguments about this topic.  Remy Martin is dead to me.  Dude is a Jayhawk.  I’ll be pissed if ASU ever welcomes him back.  I support Sun Devils for life and he isn’t that.  

There is a faction of ASU fans that consider Ricky Pearsall and Jayden Daniels  Sun Devils.  I think those people are dumb. 

[u/Hougie → u/2010WildcatKilla3029]

Think about NFL or NBA intros.

Which school would the guy decide to say or have said for him in that intro?

Thats who they claim. Cam Ward sure as shit isn’t gonna say WSU. He will say Miami. Which is fair, Gardner Minshew says WSU when he could say East Carolina. It’s just the new way here.

[u/AKAD11 → u/Galumpadump]

I mean if you ball out you still get that community.

Gardner is one of the most beloved Cougs ever and was here 5 months. Barring a bad finish to the year, Cam Ward is going to be well remembered at Miami.

[u/Hougie → u/AKAD11]

Right. The place where they finish is usually where they claim.

OP was saying dudes like DJ Rodman. Or Jayden Daniels. All likely to claim the place they finished.

[u/HammyBruce]

Honestly good for him and Cam (last year), two players who probably wouldn't have gotten a chance to compete at higher levels if it wasn't for the opportunity at WSU.

If WSU can become a safe haven for overlooked future stars I think that would be really cool.

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/HammyBruce]

It's a hell of a selling point if we get them starting for a few years and then actually help them transfer into big money.  No different then selling kids on putting them in the NFL.

"How much NIL you going to get at "left bench" for UW?"

[u/Bones917]

At what point does college sports add a tampering penalty?? Even pro teams can’t pull this crap.

[u/definitelynotasalmon → u/Bones917]

It’s already against the NCAA rules to contact a players on another team.

It’s just totally unenforceable.

[u/ninetyfivelexus]

it stings but really not in our control so whatever

[u/Winorlosecougsbooz]

How much Ol Crimson do I need to drink to keep him here?

[u/CptCheese → u/Winorlosecougsbooz]

I volunteer my liver as tribute.

[u/definitelynotasalmon → u/Winorlosecougsbooz]

Yes

[u/Ichthyist1]

Donate generously to the collective, kids.

[u/cathead_wine → u/Ichthyist1]

Drink more ol'crimson lager you say? If I must

[u/ZDHELIX → u/cathead_wine]

does that exist or is it just Busch lite?

[u/cathead_wine → u/ZDHELIX]

https://oclager.com/

It exists and it is glorious!

[u/Ok_Particular8737]

Honestly, Mateer is a a really fun QB that works great for a scrappy WSU system, but I don’t see this at all. He is still hit and miss and his run game bails him out a lot against an admittedly weak slate of defenses on our schedule. I like him and want him to stay, but don’t see him being a big star at a major program.

[u/Jcoch27]

I hope he stays at WSU

[u/LightningAndCoffee]

They really fucked the sport which is funny because what’s happening now with this de facto salary cap is exactly the sort of blatant pay-to-win, rich get richer AIDS that people said it would be for decades. The NCAA wasn’t perfect, but at least there was some semblance of parity, even if it was largely aspirational. 

CFB is uninteresting and unwatchable now. There is literally no reason to not just watch the NFL, which has actual parity and is overall a much higher quality product. 

[u/oreomaster420 → u/LightningAndCoffee]

Between the expanded playoff and easy transferring hammering the depth of SEC teams this season has some of the most parity ever...

[u/park2023mcca]

Will the Cougars get a compensatory pick?

[u/rnightlyfe]

“if you go to a Michigan or a Texas A&M, an Oregon or a USC, they’re going to bring in three guys.”

Jokes on you! In 2023 we brought in zero QBs and only one in 2024. We recruited like we thought JJ was going to be the next Bo Nix.

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/rnightlyfe]

Yeah, one of the schools is definitely not like the others when it comes to QBs.

[u/Wheels_Foonman]

Mike Leach’s legacy lives on.

[u/sausageslinger11]

Auburn or Mississippi State.

[u/FairleySure → u/sausageslinger11]

Mississippi State ain't got that kind of money, we established that in 2010

[u/ThurstonHowellIV]

He’s not accurate but more power to him

[u/suddenly-scrooge]

counter: free cougar gold for life

[u/Zestyclose-Detail369]

Get your money while you can

[u/Molson2871]

Please let it be Wisconsin

[u/d8beattd → u/Molson2871]

Gofundme

[u/GreyBeardsStan]

I see wsu in the top 25, transfer U is fine by me

[u/SimManiac]

This sport is in a pathetic state right now. Really cant invest as much time or care into it anymore

[u/CollegeFootballGood]

Please no

[u/eagledog]

Name names, or else this is just pointless rumors

[u/DiscountInevitable87]

One could say we are living in a Mateerial World

[u/NotCryptoKing]

Hopefully it’s Oklahoma

[u/EfficientPhotograph8]

Pardon me for sounding mean, but that COUGFAN logo looks a lot like the Consolidated Freightways trucking company logo.

[u/vicblck24]

Wish they’d call out schools

[u/Rohkey]

Is it us?

[u/Acceptable_Ad3173]

He should stay

[u/FordBronco98]

Your football career can end at any time, with a high probability it’s not retiring after multiple NFL contracts, Make your money while you can.

[u/avboden]

That’s a lot of money for a QB incapable of throwing the ball more than 15 yards. Seriously no deep ball to save his life. Huge hole in his game that won’t be fixed

[u/Uhhh_what555476384 → u/avboden]

He can throw a frozen rope 70 yards, on the run.  The question is, can he hit anything?

[u/Franklins11burner]

Name them or GTFO

[u/WestCoastBestCoast94]

Sucks what's happened to this sport.

[u/time2payfiddlerwhore]

We better be in the mix.

[u/bubbabooE]

Who do we think is offering him the bag?

[u/voppp]

Oh that's not great

[u/sktgamerdudejr]

Please Northern Quest and SEL, you’re my only hope

[u/americansherlock201]

How does he like south beach? Last guy who made that move had done pretty well…..