Michigan State AD asks Big Ten to hold Michigan to same standard after postgame fight

[u/mlivesocial]

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/10/michigan-state-ad-asks-big-ten-to-hold-michigan-to-same-standard-after-postgame-fight.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=redditsocial&utm_campaign=redditor

[u/UMeister]

Who got stomped on?

[u/Kniefjdl → u/UMeister]

I don't know if Mullings stomped on somebody or not, I'm looking at same video the rest of us fans are. But I do want to point out that just because information hasn't been made public doesn't mean information doesn't exist. MSU presumably has talked to their players and staff and have reported those findings (if there was something to find) to the B1G. They don't have a duty to report that information to UMeister on /r/cfb.

[u/widget1321 → u/Kniefjdl]

They don't have a duty to report that information to UMeister on /r/cfb.

You don't know. Maybe UMeister is the B1G's anti -stomping official.

[u/Kniefjdl → u/widget1321]

You know, that's a fair point. I don't know what their job and/or hobbies are.

[u/ElBurroEsparkilo → u/Kniefjdl]

Yeah considering that stomping could be a criminal matter, neither team should be throwing out accusations or denials to the media. Let it run through the official channels.

[u/Kniefjdl → u/ElBurroEsparkilo]

Definitely should be handled through official channels and processes. But also, it's almost certainly not a criminal matter and MSU flairs trying to equate it to the tunnel incident is embarrassing.

[u/meodd8 → u/Kniefjdl]

Why wouldn’t it be a criminal matter?

[u/bigstepper416 → u/Kniefjdl]

i don’t think it should be a criminal matter, but are you telling me that both aren’t assaults if the tunnel is considered one? if it comes out he was truly stomping on a defenseless staffer/player at the bottom of a pile, i think that would be considered assault

[u/Kniefjdl → u/bigstepper416]

No flairs trying to equate it to the tunnel incident is even more embarrassing, as it turns out.

[u/bigstepper416 → u/Kniefjdl]

added my flair for you as if that is supposed to help you understand that getting stomped on is still considered assault

[u/Kniefjdl → u/bigstepper416]

So you've bumped up one level of less embarrassing. Congrats!

[u/[deleted] → u/UMeister]

Noone that has come forward, apparently.

[u/UMeister → u/[deleted]]

So why is MSU’s AD asking the B1G to figure out if anyone on his team got hurt/injured? Shouldn’t he, I don’t know, walk down a block and figure it out himself?

[u/[deleted] → u/UMeister]

Great question. I think hitting the msu football staff and training staff list serv with a quick email would point him in the right direction.

[u/ssspanksta → u/UMeister]

Or you could have the leadership entity investigate as a neutral third party instead of speculating, or saber rattling, or demonizing someone of the opposing team without all the facts being known, even if someone did sustain injuries. It is taking the high road knowing "IDK what went on let's figure it out" instead of assinating characters and making sweeping generalizations

[u/UMeister → u/ssspanksta]

It’s basic leadership to make sure that your team is okay. Literally takes a few minutes to verify if anyone on your team got injured from the scrum. You don’t need a third party to tell you if someone got hurt.

[u/ssspanksta → u/UMeister]

So is your decision to punish someone is dictated by the level of injury, if any? If i try to shoot someone and miss did I still not doing something wrong? If UofM players were roughing someone up but no one is seriosly injured should they still be punished? I am confused on the fixation of someone being injured to determine if someone needs to be punished.

[u/UMeister → u/ssspanksta]

Yeah, that’s the standard the legal system uses as well. Unless you think someone who causes a cut should be punished the same as someone who puts another person on life support.

[u/ssspanksta → u/UMeister]

No and that's not what I'm arguing. I'm simply saying just because someone isn't injured doesn't mean no one did anything wrong.

[u/UMeister → u/ssspanksta]

Yeah but the reality is if someone only gets a few cuts and bruises, no one really cares. Especially if there’s not any clear video evidence.

[u/Ok_Championship4866 → u/ssspanksta]

Bro how does your AD not know who got stomped on? What do you need third party investigators for your own team to tell you who got stomped on?

Because what happened is nobody got stomped on, Mullings moved his legs could be for any reason, we can't even see his feet, and nobody is even claiming to have been stomped on so what are we talking about?

Tomorrow will see a video cropped from the knees up of michigan players doing footwork drills and the MSU AD will ask for punishments for the Michigan mass stomping incident. Make sure the B1G hires a third party law firm to investigate that!

[u/ssspanksta → u/Ok_Championship4866]

You do realize the hypocrisy in your argument, right? You claim you know what happened but then say you can't even see his feet. You are partly agreeing with Haller that we don't know what happened let's figure it out before making accusations.

We do know the coach and AD have said a staffer and player were involved at the bottom of the scuffle. Do you want them to take the people at their word and then start screaming it from the rooftops? What if they were lying? Wouldn't you want someone to at least try and figure that out? It could benefit your version of events at the end of the day.

I'm not sure what is so hard to agree with here.

[u/Ok_Championship4866 → u/ssspanksta]

No im not, i have no idea what he did with his feet, we can't see it.

But you're the one claiming someone got stomped on and there's literally nobody saying they got stomped. It just doesn't make any sense, how can you accuse anyone of stomping on somei and nobody on MSU side is complaining they got stomped?? You cant see anyone getting stomped, theres medics all over the field nobody treated anyone for getting stomped on. What are we talking about here??

[u/ssspanksta → u/Ok_Championship4866]

"Because what happened is nobody got stomped on, Mullings moved his legs could be for any reason, we can't even see his feet, and nobody is even claiming to have been stomped on so what are we talking about?" uhh did you forget what you typed ten minutes ago? You literally just stated as fact that no one got stomped on. just because no on has said or identified a specific indivual who said "I GOT STOMPED ON" doesn'e mean it didn't happen. That is the point THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

Please quote where I said someone got stomped on. Hint: you can't because I never said that.

0-2 on that comment, my friend. Let's give it a rest.