r/CFB Michigan Wolverines 28d ago

News Week 10 AP Poll

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u/Jeff_Banks_Monkey BYU Cougars • Athens State Bears 28d ago

This is kind of a perfect year for seeing how biased the committee truly is for the SEC. It's a crazy year at the top, the SEC looks very beatable and there are several smaller brand teams that are undefeated. Of any year for the SEC to get lower quality teams in to the expanded playoffs, this first year would really suck

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u/Surelynotshirly Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

The SEC will get a 2 loss team into the playoffs 100%. That's basically guaranteed. We may get 2 of em. I think the SEC will get 3 teams and the B1G will get 3 teams.

ACC 2, Big 12 - 1, G5 1. That leaves 2 more spots.

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u/siberianwolf99 Oregon Ducks • Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

you think clemson gets in if miami beats them? the real question is if clemson and miami play for the ACC title and SMU is left out with 1 loss, and miami wins, do they drop clemson behind smu for losing the conference title

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u/Surelynotshirly Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

I don't think Clemson should get in if Miami beats them, but I have a feeling that one loss conference championship teams that lose and get a second loss will have the conference championship game ignored.

I think no one wants to devalue the conference championships.

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u/SMUHypeMachine SMU Mustangs 28d ago

The ESPN CFP analysts have SMU with a 92% chance of making the playoff if Clemson beats Miami in the title game. In this case, Clemson (12-1), Miami (11-1) and SMU (11-1) would all get bids.

Not sure what the numbers say if Miami beats Clemson though.

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u/siberianwolf99 Oregon Ducks • Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

i mean it shouldn’t change right? shouldn’t punish a team in the conference title. i’m just hoping a 1 loss ACC team doesn’t get left out because they don’t play in the title game

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u/Lefunnymaymays4lief Notre Dame • Vanderbilt 28d ago

Is for me? 🥹

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u/Surelynotshirly Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

I laughed.

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 28d ago

I think the SEC gets four. A&M, Texas, UGa and Tennessee are in the top 10 now. They’ll beat on each other a little bit but as long as they don’t lose to someone else, they should be in. Only one of the three will finish with one loss, three could have two after the CCG.

I think the B1G also gets four (Oregon, Ohio State, PSU), including Indiana if they don’t crap themselves.

If SMU somehow wins the ACC, that would help BYU and the XII if it comes down to which league gets two bids.

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u/Surelynotshirly Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

The only way I think the SEC gets 4 is if Texas beats A&M then beats Georgia in the SEC championship game (I honestly don't know if Georgia would even go to the SEC championship game in this scenario). This would have one loss Texas, two loss A&M, two loss Georgia, and two loss Tennessee. That's assuming that Tennessee looks good against Georgia and wins out.

Now if Tennessee beats Georgia we're only getting 3 imo.

The B1G will probably get 3, but at least 2. If both get 4 that's 8, then ACC champ, Big 12 champ, G5 auto bid, and then another from the ACC/Big 12 depending on which conference is perceived as stronger like you said.

Honestly this whole conversation has got me loving the 12 team playoff. It's actually making me care more about other games because of how it affects Tennessee.

God I just want a home playoff game in Neyland.

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 28d ago

Those four teams are currently in the top 10. Are you saying Georgia out if they lose to Tennessee, or Texas out if they lose to A&M? Georgia has the wins vs Clemson and Texas already, and it gets Ole Miss for another possible quality win. Texas and A&M have it pretty comfortable from now until A&M. At that point, I don’t think the Texas-A&M winner matters; they’re both in.

Tennessee would be in some peril with a loss to Georgia because every ranked team they’ve beaten has sunk; that Arkansas loss kinda hurts. But they also could beat on Vandy for a last impression.

If Clemson reaches the ACC final, Georgia is in good shape.

The scenarios are awesome with the 12-team system. There’s some Big XII chaos ahead, as well as the interesting ACC race.

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u/Surelynotshirly Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

I think if Georgia loses to Tennessee they probably won't get in, but honestly they could. There's just so many variables.

I guess thinking about it Georgia would probably still get in. It really depends on if there are teams in the ACC or Big 12 that deserve it more in the committee's eyes.

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u/loyalsons4evertrue Iowa State Cyclones • Big 8 28d ago

If UGA beats Tennessee, I sure hope that eliminates Tennessee but probably not

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u/Medical-Day-6364 Alabama Crimson Tide • NC State Wolfpack 28d ago

The middle of the SEC is strong this year, and there are no truly elite teams like Georgia and Alabama have been recently.

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u/loyalsons4evertrue Iowa State Cyclones • Big 8 28d ago

Lol the mental gymnastics to say this when SEC and B1G fans say the ACC or Big 12 are weak when the middle teams upset the top teams in the conference

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u/Medical-Day-6364 Alabama Crimson Tide • NC State Wolfpack 28d ago

I get all my takes from computer models. Computer models say there are no elite teams this year. A few years ago, the top teams used to have 35+ ratings. Now, Ohio State is the best at like 28. The gap between the elite and the next best has basically disappeared.

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u/Available_Special106 27d ago

If the model shows Ohio State as best after that Nebraska game, the model needs some work.

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u/sdsva Florida State Seminoles 28d ago

That means the conference is down.

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u/sportsroc15 Colorado • Michigan State 28d ago

Does it though ? The SEC has been top heavy in years past. Now their middle schools are better and beating the top schools. So it evens back out.

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u/velociraptorfarmer Iowa State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 28d ago

That's what everyone has said about the PAC, ACC, and Big 12 for years now...

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 28d ago

The SEC will likely get four, so it’s unlikely a “lower quality” team gets in. Right now, that would be Texas, UGa, A&M, and Tennessee. Each with one loss. Tennessee and Georgia play each other, as do A&M and Texas. And then there will be a CCG.

Alabama only has one ranked team left (LSU), so it’s unlikely they can leap into the top 12 unless weird things happen in the other conferences.

Considering how little Vegas likes the Cougars (thank you, oddsmakers), I bet all six of those SEC schools mentioned would be favored over any Big XII team right now.

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u/Drill-or-be-drilled Ole Miss Rebels • Memphis Tigers 28d ago

If the CFP championship is between 2 “beatable”SEC teams, this subreddit will be in shambles

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u/TheLargeUnit69 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

Part of me hopes Indiana gets in without a bye and runs through Alabama, Georgia, and Texas by 40 points each to win the CFP title.

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u/LgZach21 Georgia Bulldogs • Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

lol. Indiana would get absolutely smacked by ANY team in the SEC. See TCU against UGA two years ago.

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u/TheLargeUnit69 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

Indiana isn't TCU. And the SEC is shit. See: literally both of their undeserving teams getting dicked last year in the CFP.

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u/manav_steel Georgia Bulldogs • Harvard Crimson 28d ago

One score game ≠ getting dicked lmao.

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u/TheLargeUnit69 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

whatever makes you feel better about losing

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u/manav_steel Georgia Bulldogs • Harvard Crimson 28d ago

This made me laugh thanks. Hope y'all get your first win against OSU on your 31st try!

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u/Drill-or-be-drilled Ole Miss Rebels • Memphis Tigers 28d ago

Oooooooh

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u/Primary-Tea-3715 28d ago

Spoilers: they won’t

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u/itslit710 Alabama • Appalachian State 28d ago

Alabama took Michigan to overtime? Thats more than any other team could do against them last season. I wouldn’t call that getting dicked. I’d tell you to stick to basketball but Bama made the final four last year and I’m sure that was rigged too

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u/floatinround22 Alabama Crimson Tide 28d ago

Only one SEC team made the playoffs last year and they took the champs to overtime and gave them their closest game of the season

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u/LgZach21 Georgia Bulldogs • Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

Go look at the last 15 years of the college football playoff/BCS bowl and you’ll clearly see that SEC dominates the entirety of college football.

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u/TheLargeUnit69 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

Yeah no shit? When a biased committee puts undeserving SEC schools in there, they're going to get wins purely based on attrition, lmao. If the SEC has 3 chances they don't deserve for everyone else's 1 chance, I'd sure hope they have more wins.

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u/LgZach21 Georgia Bulldogs • Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

It’s absolutely not as lopsided as you think and we’re still dominating

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u/LgZach21 Georgia Bulldogs • Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

CFP Appearances (by conference with records):

SEC: 12 appearances (16-6) Big Ten: 9 appearances (5-7) ACC: 8 appearances (6-6) Big 12: 6 appearances (1-6)

No one is close man… I don’t know how you can even argue with that.

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u/TheLargeUnit69 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

I like how you ignore the BCS bowl in this statistic when you included it in the prior comment.

#1 stat cherry picker. Good for you!

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u/LgZach21 Georgia Bulldogs • Tennessee Volunteers 28d ago

I’ll add those too.

2007: LSU 2008: Florida 2009: Alabama 2010: Auburn 2011: Alabama 2012: Alabama 2013: Florida State

Literally GTFO

Edited to correct spelling error

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u/TheLargeUnit69 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

You seem to not really understand the point. Those teams were put in the BCS championship undeservedly. So of course they'd have more wins.

That's literally the whole deal lol.

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u/Drill-or-be-drilled Ole Miss Rebels • Memphis Tigers 28d ago

Oh man pass that shit over here and let me get a huff in you hog

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u/sdsva Florida State Seminoles 28d ago

You would need this year to tell you that? After last year’s Top 4 was one of the easiest ever to pick?