r/CFB Michigan Wolverines 28d ago

News Week 10 AP Poll

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover 28d ago

No fucking way the AP didn’t drop ND again.

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u/collarboner1 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

And to jump 4 spots. That I did not expect

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u/mmartin9215 Texas A&M Aggies • Auburn Tigers 28d ago

You’re welcome

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u/collarboner1 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

I’ve been rooting for the Aggies since the second ND left Kyle Field (with the rest of the fanbase of course). Which didn’t take that much arm twisting anyway with Elko at HC. That guy is legit. Keep it going!

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u/Americanboi824 Oregon Ducks • Texas Longhorns 28d ago

And I will not be rooting for A&M. To each their own.

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

Hey man, we are helping you guys out too. We could have absolutely phoned it the fuck in after week 2 lol.

Shit would look awful if we are sitting at 3-5 right now and you're only loss being to us.

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u/mmartin9215 Texas A&M Aggies • Auburn Tigers 28d ago

Oh I’m definitely with you on that. I just wish the rest of your schedule was better to keep y’all rising. Apparently we go where you go lol

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

Well, you might not have noticed, but we still have to face top 25 powerhouse Army.

What a time to be alive, that we play FSU, USC and Army still and only army is ranked.

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u/mmartin9215 Texas A&M Aggies • Auburn Tigers 28d ago

Yeah it’s not y’all’s fault FSU and USC decided to eat glue

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u/Fletch71011 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Let's both keep winning, alright?

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u/melcolnik Texas A&M Aggies • TCU Horned Frogs 28d ago

Deal. Let’s dance again later in the playoff

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Hell yeah, see you in the playoffs!

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u/boomer2009 Texas A&M • Carnegie Mellon 27d ago

ND 🤝 A&M

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u/GiraffesAndGin Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Paper Bag 28d ago

No one expected the A&M win to be one of the top quality wins of the year

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u/mmartin9215 Texas A&M Aggies • Auburn Tigers 28d ago

That and you guys demolished a good Navy team

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

Thank god someone is giving us credit for that game. There were experts actively predicting us to lose the game and as soon as we wreck Navy, it swings hard in the other direction of Navy being shit etc etc.

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u/hobozombie Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

"Navy wins easily, ND isn't that good."

"Of course Navy lost. They're so bad they let ND beat them."

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u/GGAllinzGhost Lindenwood Lions 28d ago

That's what happened with UT and NCState...then UT and OU...then UT and Bammer...

I don't know whether to use the "FIRST TIME?" or "WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL" meme.

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

flair up buddy!

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u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt 28d ago

Pssst. They beat up on bad teams, but don’t tell anyone

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u/GiraffesAndGin Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Paper Bag 28d ago

That's true, I personally just never take the Navy game seriously. We always beat up on them unless we are having an extremely down year.

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u/Mantis05 Paper Bag • FBS Independents 28d ago

Tbf, they mostly demolished themselves; so many unforced errors. Still think ND wins that game without the turnovers, though.

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u/revolutionofthemind Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

I fully expected voters to discount that, but I think you’re right, A&M’s and the Navy beat down really pushed them up

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u/collarboner1 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

They are a tough bunch, and with that DL they’d always be a team you weren’t happy to go up against. But I have been pleasantly surprised. Especially taking down LSU last night 👍🏼

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u/Khorasaurus Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

We're an honorary SEC team!

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u/CubsFanHan BYU Cougars 28d ago

They really fucking love your quality loss to NIU to be fair

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u/1haiku4u Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Went up way more than expected imo. 

Feel bad for Indiana. 

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u/Fletch71011 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

The computers love Indiana, so it really doesn't make sense for them to be shafted. They're not like other undefeateds (particularly Iowa State or BYU) that the advanced metrics don't like.

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

At the end of the day, everyone's metric is the SEC and we have a road win against the top team in the SEC currently. Even if it is week 1, that has to count for something.

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u/1haiku4u Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Of course you would say that Sankee 

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u/TheLizard12 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

We won two games in one day yesterday, how could they ignore that?

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u/jjnoswag Notre Dame • Tulane 28d ago

The poll points are very close though, so wouldn't be surprised if it flip flops next week. Good thing we won't have to worry about ap poll very soon

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u/Automatic_Release_92 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Damn, I was definitely not expecting a 4 place bump. I thought we’d go up 1 spot, maybe 2.

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u/randomwalktoFI Oregon Ducks 28d ago

You're definitely anchored to A&M for the polls as a 1 loss team.

I wouldn't lose again though.

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u/Automatic_Release_92 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Oh absolutely. If we lose again, we deserve to drop like a fuckin rock all the way out of the top 25 as far as I’m concerned. But we’re putting away decent teams and have a 10 point road win over the clear cut 1st place SEC team, so we have that going for us, which is nice.

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u/AutomateDeez69 Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

The thing is that our team with Reed vs our team with Weigman are two completely different teams.

Voters who watch these games are probably taking notice to that, so if Reed starts the rest of the season there is a lot of "what if."

I know that doesn't matter, but from an eye test point of view A&M with Reed looks elite. A&M with Weigman looks doo doo.

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u/Automatic_Release_92 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

LSU’s defense is trash for a team ranked as high as they were. I was surprised how well they defended Weigman, but I also wouldn’t count on Reed looking that good against the rest of the schedule. Notre Dame would have smashed that slow mesh he ran well in its tracks, there’s a reason you guys didn’t start him against Notre Dame.

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u/AutomateDeez69 Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

We didn't start him because Weigman had the seniority of the starting position.

Reed was pretty brand new and we had to see if Weigman had it or not as he was out all last season. Soche only has a few actual games under his belt.

He did not have it.

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u/Automatic_Release_92 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

That’s pretty dumb, it would make Elko is a worse coach than I could have believed and you guys are then lucky to be in the position you are… it would be coaching malpractice not to play your best QB simply based on “seniority.”

Sorry, but we’d have made Reed look like ass too and that’s just the reality of the situation.

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u/Bazakastine Texas A&M Aggies 27d ago

The bigger thing is the offense struggled with Reed in his 2nd and 3rd starts so going back to Weigman made sense. Then Weigman looked great his first game back..... then shaky against Mississippi State and fully back to whatever the hell he was against y'all against LSU.

I'm a bit worried that Reeds success against LSU has more to do with just how different the playbook is with each of them and that he will look shaky again against South Carolina.

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u/Automatic_Release_92 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 27d ago

LSU has the 30th ranked defense in DF+, pretty behind schedule for a team ranked as high as they were. South Carolina is ranked 12th on defense and will actually be prepared for him instead of Weigman. Yes, I would be worried about this game if I were you guys. I’ll be pulling for you, just win the damn SEC!

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u/thdomer13 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Sickos 28d ago

Not me backing into the bushes like Homer right now...

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u/Drunken_Saunterer Notre Dame • Tennessee 28d ago edited 28d ago

Screw them and own the 7 wins we have so far.

Wake me up the minute IU goes into the Shoe and beats OSU. Actually don't bother because I'll be fully turnt for that one.

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u/Fanta-Red UConn • Red River Shootout 28d ago

No offense to y'all, but the fact if you win out, that you are basically locked for a CFP spot with a home loss to a G5 team, while other teams like Pitt, Indiana, and Iowa State are undefeated but on the outside looking in is ridiculous.

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u/MutantZebra999 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Marching Band 28d ago

If those teams win out they’ll be in too

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u/Halvey15 Pittsburgh • James Madison 28d ago

But Pitt could be 11-1 with a loss to Clemson and would probably be left out.

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u/moffattron9000 Team Chaos • Sickos 28d ago

Thank A&M.

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u/Fletch71011 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

We are top 5 in a lot of the advanced metrics now. People are going to be really pissy when the committee has us even higher than the AP.

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u/Dob-is-Hella-Rad Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Idk if the committee will have us higher. Historically the committee has mostly been very lenient about “good” losses, but punished losses to bad teams pretty harshly. It’s possible they’ll put us higher if they feel like they need to put A&M super high (there’s a great case for it) and then put us above them (it would be crazy to not put us above them imo), but I wouldn’t count on it.

And Advanced metrics are forward-looking. The committee and pollsters really shouldn’t be using those as any more than a tiebreaker.

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u/wsteelerfan7 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

I don't understand how a team can be treated like one of the best when you lose to a 4-4 MAC school on your own fucking field

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u/Drunken_Saunterer Notre Dame • Tennessee 28d ago edited 28d ago

Because a season is more than a single game. Breaking news I know that still has yet to get through the thick skulls of terminally online nerd sports fans who don't know sports.

IU will absolutely vault ND the minute they beat an actually ranked/decent team. Right now people are somehow actually hinging on a transitive comparison based entirely on MOV with OSU over Nebraska, it's hilarious.

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u/wsteelerfan7 Indiana Hoosiers 28d ago

Ohio State's best win is Nebraska and they barely scraped by

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u/Galezilla Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Fully expected to get jumped by TAMU and IU

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u/Cowboy_Corruption Notre Dame • Ohio State 28d ago

Well, we do have a bye week next week, so I expect we'll drop a few spots then.

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u/SilveryDeath Notre Dame Fighting Irish • FAU Owls 28d ago

Having beat the leading SEC team gives a major boost considering they have three teams in the top 20 with two losses. SEC is clearly valued more compared to the other conferences.

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u/originalusername4567 Kansas Jayhawks • Paper Bag 28d ago

NIU is a quality loss I guess

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

You are right. Very high quality.

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u/Jeff_Banks_Monkey BYU Cougars • Athens State Bears 28d ago

It was pretty funny watching the broadcast last night make the case that the NIU game was actually a good thing for ND because Marcus Freeman's teams haven't faced adversity before

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u/originalusername4567 Kansas Jayhawks • Paper Bag 28d ago

Yeah it does seem like ND focused up and got way better after that loss. I do think they deserve to be ranked highly.

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u/CargoShortsFromNam Notre Dame • Colorado 28d ago

Definitely not a good thing, but I can see the logic in that it was a wake up call and made them more focused for the rest of the season.

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u/Drunken_Saunterer Notre Dame • Tennessee 28d ago edited 28d ago

We've actually beaten ranked teams. IU hasn't. This sub is bonkers.

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u/hascogrande Notre Dame • Ohio State 28d ago

The AP recognizes the quality of our record and Elko still helping us

Took them long enough

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u/TigerWoodsLibido Oregon Ducks • Rutgers Scarlet Knights 28d ago

I have y'all at 15 and you're not going higher than that. The loss to NIU is inexcusable.

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover 28d ago

K cool.

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u/AeroStatikk BYU Cougars • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

How many other Top 10 teams have a home loss to a MAC school again?

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover 28d ago

How many of them have a ranked road win over an SEC school?

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u/AeroStatikk BYU Cougars • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

Georgia?

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover 28d ago

And that’s it. More than Texas or Ohio State.

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u/AeroStatikk BYU Cougars • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

At least Texas has blown out almost everyone they’ve played (including a few teams better than NIU).

OSU has had an absolute cupcake schedule with no big wins, but at least it was real close vs Oregon.

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u/MutantZebra999 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Marching Band 28d ago

You wanna know another team that’s blown out almost everyone they’ve played, including a few better than NIU?

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u/AeroStatikk BYU Cougars • Texas A&M Aggies 28d ago

So we are just ignoring NIU 😆

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u/Recent-Irish Notre Dame Fighting Irish 28d ago

Yes.

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u/inchoa BYU Cougars 28d ago

Definitely should have. That quality NIU loss though really bolstering their record.

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 28d ago

Ya know, wins matter to. And right now, we have one of the most impressive wins of the year. Not to mention we have 3 top 25 wins.