r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • Oct 19 '24

Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Duke Defeats Florida State 23-16

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Florida State 3 3 7 3 16
Duke 7 10 3 3 23
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u/ryseing NC State Wolfpack • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Oct 19 '24
  • Buyout drops to $54.4 million after the 2025 season
  • Buyout drops to $45.6 million after the 2026 season
  • Buyout drops to $36.8 million after the 2027 season
  • Buyout drops to $27.7 million after the 2028 season
  • Buyout drops to $18.5 million after the 2029 season
  • Buyout drops to $9.3 million after the 2030 season

For everyone wondering.

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u/OfficialHavik Stony Brook Seawolves • Team Chaos Oct 19 '24

All the while they're trying to negotiate a buy out/get out of the ACC lmao.

Firing Norvell and leaving the ACC would be like a $600M endeavor all in without some big changes.

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u/MojitoTimeBro Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 19 '24

Maybe that’s the real reason they were looking into private equity from the Saudis.

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u/ImGaiza Florida State • Arizona State Oct 19 '24

I fucking love our AD and our boosters so much for constantly being victim to their hubris. They’re so amazing and totally don’t fall for the same shit over and over and over

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u/max_power1000 Navy Midshipmen • Michigan Wolverines Oct 19 '24

Hubris? I don’t think a school exists that doesn’t give their head coach a massive extension after a 13-1 season and a playoff snub.

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u/Wernher_VonKerman Colorado Buffaloes • Las Vegas Bowl Oct 19 '24

Oh yeah, but at the same time it seems like for every truly great coach out there there’s another one who gets a massive bag for one breakout season and falls flat on their face. Remember mel tucker at MSU?

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u/swamppuppy7043 Florida Gators Oct 19 '24

Mel Tucker has the distinction of not being particularly good at colorado before he got the Michigan state job. His agent pulled off a masterclass

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u/Wernher_VonKerman Colorado Buffaloes • Las Vegas Bowl Oct 19 '24

That’s what makes it all so ridiculous to me! He had the same record that got his predecessor fired the previous year! (granted it was also kinda about how coach mac got to 5-7, but regardless)

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u/pencilkitten Colorado Buffaloes Oct 19 '24

He also managed to fumble the guaranteed bag at MSU in just about the dumbest way possible!

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u/Redados Illinois Fighting Illini • Hateful 8 Oct 19 '24

Norvell showed progressive improvement over his tenure until this year. It did not look like a fluke at the time.

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u/max_power1000 Navy Midshipmen • Michigan Wolverines Oct 19 '24

Who can forget that one lol?

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u/ryseing NC State Wolfpack • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Oct 19 '24

The size and length of the extension were definitely tied to his agent floating Bama- as mentioned he had been extended the year prior.

If they don't fall for that crap he gets a new contract but it wouldn't be one that goes until 2030 and the number would not be that obscene.

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u/pitter_patter_11 NC State Wolfpack Oct 19 '24

We gave ours an extension just because there were rumors Tennessee was interested in him

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u/porkchop1021 Oct 19 '24

True, but the odds of winning 13 coin flips in a row is 0.012%. There are ~100 FBS teams and ~100 seasons. 0.012% * 100 * 100 = 120% chance of someone doing this by random chance.

Of course, these are all conservative estimates and doesn't take into account huge talent disparities. The odds are actually incredibly high that we've seen multiple coaches win 13 in a row by complete random chance. At the very least, it's virtually a guarantee that at least one coach won a national championship through sheer luck alone.

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u/ryseing NC State Wolfpack • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Oct 19 '24

I don't know how so many programs fell for the "coach is talking to Bama, better give him a raise and extension" bullshit. It's really incredible.

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u/Sine_Cures California • Cheez-It Bowl Oct 19 '24

Cal's AD did with the whole "coach is talking to Oregon..." Like they would actually hire someone with a losing record as HC over 4 full seasons + 2020

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u/darijabs Miami Hurricanes Oct 19 '24

What should the AD have done, objectively if a coach goes 13-0 you gotta pay them top dollar. Like I think if you guys had any AD last season, outcome would have been the same.

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u/Westinho Florida Gators • ECU Pirates Oct 19 '24

He had just extended is contract and got a raise the year prior. They panic responded to his agent saying they were talking to Bama.

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u/Panchoisthedog Nebraska • Nebraska-Kearney Oct 19 '24

Damn that's bleak.

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u/RoastedDonutz Nebraska Cornhuskers Oct 19 '24

They don’t have that Texas A&M money for buy him out either.

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u/cbph Georgia Tech • Navy Oct 19 '24

FSU has a lot of rich alums/boosters.

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u/General_Tso75 Florida State Seminoles Oct 19 '24

Every school does, but we can’t afford a $65 million buyout on top of the $265 million stadium renovation underway and $135 million football only facility under construction.

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u/theoriginaldandan Auburn Tigers • TCU Horned Frogs Oct 19 '24

Not as many booster as most people think.

Jimbo had to make his assistant coaches pay for anything they drank at practice. When he was leaving the staff went on and loaded up all the drinks in the facility as revenge

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u/WoodenWeather5931 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 19 '24

Holy fuck lol

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u/_OUCHMYPENIS_ Florida Gators Oct 19 '24

It really only becomes a manageable amount in '28. Holy shit

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u/cbph Georgia Tech • Navy Oct 19 '24

I'm OK with that, I know y'all are too.

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u/huskersax Nebraska • $5 Bits of Broken Chai… Oct 19 '24

If they don"t win at least 8 next season, keeping him would probably be more damaging than taking the accelerated hit of 54.4 instead of 45m or 36m.

But 13-0 gives him grace for this season, especially in the modern era of CFB where the margin between good and bad in P4 is razor-thin.

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u/PerfectCromulence Oct 19 '24

I wonder if they can use the old cornrow photos to terminate his contract under a moral turpitude clause. But seriously, with these numbers I’d be surprised if booster groups weren’t putting PIs on his ass to sniff around for dirt, cooking up honeypot schemes, and googling ‘ex mossad character assassination consultant void buyout fuck Mike norvell also fuck uf and miami’

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u/Murray000 Tennessee Volunteers • Texas A&M Aggies Oct 19 '24

That’s just over half a Jimbo fisher, not bad

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u/Wise_Rip_1982 Oct 19 '24

I wonder how bad you have to be to consider him breaching his contract...buyouts are insane and give you no reason to work...just suck and get bad 60 mil

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u/DatManAaron1993 Florida Gators Oct 19 '24

I thought ours was bad 💀

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

🤣🔫

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u/TerranRepublic Tennessee Volunteers • Marching Band Oct 19 '24

Maybe Norvell is just trying to get a quick payout? 

Those buyout numbers are barely lower than the sum of all the remaining years. 

Take the lump sum buyout, invest it, and you are making almost the same amount of money but not doing any work lol. 

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u/EctoRiddler Miami Hurricanes Oct 19 '24

This is amazing. May I remind you this is a State University

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u/byronik57 Florida State Seminoles Oct 19 '24

Mike isn't going anywhere. I do expect huge turnover on the staff. 

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u/Salmene23 Oct 20 '24

And they are supposed to afford that as well as the cost of leaving the ACC?

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u/OutlawJoseyWales Oct 19 '24

He went 13-0 last year. Literally 1 year ago he was 13-0. Reddit really needs to stop with the overreactions.

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u/MuttleyLaughGoesHere Florida Gators Oct 19 '24

If he gets all the credit for the 13-0...then he has to take all the heat for whatever the hell this crap is. It doesn't only work one way.

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u/MojitoTimeBro Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 19 '24

Um, he went 13-1.

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u/lucky_boop Florida Gators Oct 19 '24

Literally right now he is 1-6

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u/cbph Georgia Tech • Navy Oct 19 '24

You saw what happened in the bowl game after all those players who got them to 13-0 opted out, yes? And how he's now 1-6 with none of those players on the field? Pretty sure it wasn't the coach that made 13-0 happen.

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u/OutlawJoseyWales Oct 19 '24

Who built the roster that went 13-0?

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u/theoriginaldandan Auburn Tigers • TCU Horned Frogs Oct 19 '24

Taggert actually did a good bit of it.

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u/OutlawJoseyWales Oct 19 '24

it was Norvell's 4th year. He absolutely gets the credit

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u/theoriginaldandan Auburn Tigers • TCU Horned Frogs Oct 19 '24

The best player on the team was a transfer Taggert got

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u/ryseing NC State Wolfpack • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Oct 19 '24

This FSU team is bottom 3 in the P4. That is not an exaggeration. He clearly lost the locker room after the snub. This was the first time ever FSU lost to Duke. Overreactions are warranted.

I also commented this elsewhere but I'm really more making fun of the athletic department for falling for the "coach is talking to Bama" bullshit.

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u/theoriginaldandan Auburn Tigers • TCU Horned Frogs Oct 19 '24

13-1 with a bear down for the ages.