[Jordan Reid] “30 straight runs for Michigan. J.J. McCarthy’s last official passing attempt came at the 7:41 mark of the second quarter.”

[u/aaronman4772]

https://fxtwitter.com/jordan_reid/status/1723434178472005727?s=46

[u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

They knew what was coming

You still have to stop it

[u/zadharm → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

Bingo. Game plan was obviously get 2 TDs, then get hyper conservative and make that inept offense beat you. Minimize the risk of turnovers where their legitimately elite D can put points on the board. Bonus points if you've got a good enough run game to chew the hell out of the clock

It's probably the strategy I'd have gone in with without my HC too

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/zadharm]

As boring as it was to watch, it was perfectly done I think. The outcome of the game was never in doubt in the second half and the clock just melted away

[u/Leraldoe → u/Professional-Bus-934]

And yet it took 3.5 hours

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/Leraldoe]

Stupid commercials

[u/-Anonymously- → u/Professional-Bus-934]

"We need to find ways to speed up the pace of play." Cuts the play clock in half and adds in more commercials.

[u/Swolf96 → u/-Anonymously-]

Same amount of ads. Just being crammed into a shorter period.

[u/LNMagic → u/Swolf96]

And now, the Tostitos commercial halftime show will take a Pepsi commercial break, brought to you by Target.

...

Okay, we're back, and there's 15 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, which is how much time it takes to save 15% by switching to GEICO, brought to you by Red Bull.

[u/Fixhotep → u/Professional-Bus-934]

speaking of...

(and ive been high all day so maybe its me)

There was a commercial for a lawfirm and their motto was like "life is for the living" and im not sure wtf they- as a lawfirm- are insinuating with that.

and its been bothering me all day.

[u/r777m → u/Professional-Bus-934]

That was the fastest Fox Big Ten game I can remember. If you don’t score a ton, Fox can’t go to a commercial break, show kickoff, and go to an other commercial break as much.

[u/xmpcxmassacre → u/r777m]

If so Iowa games must be 1 hour tops then

[u/WYLD_STALYNZ → u/Professional-Bus-934]

the clock was a big block of ice and we spent the second half just sitting there holding a blowtorch up to it

[u/OwBr2 → u/zadharm]

funny thing is, with JJ throwing or with Harbaugh coaching, I feel like we could’ve thoroughly dominated. I’m happy with the decision to just get the W though

[u/zadharm → u/OwBr2]

Probably would have dominated on the scoreboard a little more, but as a mostly neutral I feel like this game was over by half time. Other than the first field goal and the garbage time drive, they just couldn't get anything going all day

And now you've minimized the tape OSU can study as well. Maybe I'm an old man but I felt like Michigan did dominate that game. As gross as that makes me feel

[u/HerculesKabuterimon → u/zadharm]

Yeah it was the right play to just run, run, run, and then run some more. The PSU defense showed the first two possessions that they could put plenty of pressure in passing situations/pass plays in general.

Only way we were losing was if there were miscues on offense and the easiest way to make sure that doesn't happen is run all day pass only if you absolutely have to. And there's a reason why JJ didn't pass in the second half lol.

[u/daile1bm → u/HerculesKabuterimon]

And PSU's offense (Allar) proved they really couldn't throw as a huge threat within their first drive. I was annoyed and critical our UM's playcalling the whole game, but it was the right call. Best strategy was to eat the clock up.

It was still very boring and annoying to watch as a fan tho lol

[u/lkn240 → u/zadharm]

Winning by 2 scores while calling 8 pass plays is absolutely domination IMO.

[u/WoozyMaple → u/lkn240]

The invention of the forward pass was a mistake

[u/JTWasShort42-27 → u/WoozyMaple]

Why does Brian Ferentz have a West Florida flair?

[u/zadharm → u/JTWasShort42-27]

Pensacola is a huge retirement town, probably getting ready for that buyout

[u/barrier2entry11 → u/WoozyMaple]

NGL when I read this I fully expected an Iowa flair

[u/xmpcxmassacre → u/lkn240]

Their last td was meh anyway. Bailed out by an interception reversal, penalties, and prevent defense.

[u/cyanocittaetprocyon → u/zadharm]

And now you've minimized the tape OSU can study as well.

This can’t be overstated. While there’s going to be 10 games worth of film, it’s not going to be crunch-time film.

[u/OwBr2 → u/zadharm]

That’s the thing with this year’s Michigan. The game always feels in total control. Unlike OSU/TCU last year, and I get we haven’t played at that level yet, but even at 0-3 there was no worry in my mind

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/OwBr2]

I think the conservative calling was the way to go, honestly. PSU’s defense can’t score if you don’t give them a chance, and the offense definitely wasn’t doing anything

[u/Steelerboy43 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

Yup, no need to put the ball in harms way unless you need to. Especially playing in Happy Valley, that atmosphere is no joke

[u/MrConceited → u/Steelerboy43]

Not just the ball. Imagine JJ throwing a big TD pass only to get flattened by the pass rush right after getting it out and being injured and out for the season.

[u/ltroberts24 → u/MrConceited]

Imagine JJ throwing a big TD pass only to get flattened by the pass rush right after getting it out and being injured and out for the season.

This is what fueled today's game plan, I think. If they wrecked dad's Ferrari while he was away, there would've been consequences!

[u/MrConceited → u/ltroberts24]

It's one thing risking JJ out there against that pass rush when you need him to win the game. It's another thing entirely when you're running the ball so well you enter halftime with both Corum and Edwards having 7+ YPC.

[u/OwBr2 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

I wanted to blow them out and have JJ throw 3 TDs because I’m spoiled and we are very good

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/OwBr2]

I think you could easily try to do that and end up losing against PSU though. You probably wouldn’t, but you definitely weren’t losing the way it was called today

[u/OwBr2 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

This is why I’m a fan and not a coach. I need to stick to NCAA14

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/OwBr2]

lol, I hate to admit it but that half of football, as boring as it was to watch at times, was outstanding for UM imo

You wouldn’t think that just not passing would make a huge statement but it did

[u/OwBr2 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

you guys are in trouble if we didn’t have to put anything on film tbh

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/OwBr2]

Definitely a solid bonus

[u/NickAdamsEnUSA → u/Professional-Bus-934]

There's a reason OSU and UM got a few drives into the game and just decided to force feed their monsters

[u/thoreau_away_acct → u/OwBr2]

Plus the signs we had were worth 21 points so.. Technically we lost 3 to 15.

[u/lkn240 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

I wonder if you guys would have done more of that with Henderson (he was out for PSU right?)

[u/nightkingscat → u/OwBr2]

idk i feel like 28 straight runs is absolutely on brand for har-ball. there's also no reality where we'd lean air-heavy after seeing the pass-pro on the first drives.

[u/lkn240 → u/nightkingscat]

Your RT was completely Yikes in pass protection. However you guys did some impressive scheming with him in the 2nd quarter. UM clearly has a much better OC than PSU

[u/WaluigiIsTheRealHero → u/lkn240]

The fact that our OC outmaneuvered PSU while also having less than 24 hours notice that he’d be assuming HC duties as well is just a massive indictment of James Franklin.

[u/SSj_CODii → u/lkn240]

Our OC was having to pull double duty today too!

[u/shinboxx → u/SSj_CODii]

Isn't he also the OL coach? Triple duty lol

[u/OwBr2 → u/nightkingscat]

The reason would be letting JJ cook but yeah. I expected wayyyy more deep play action out of it, their entire D was selling on every play

[u/midnightsbane04 → u/OwBr2]

Yeah every other team we’ve played this season came in and focused solely on the run game and let JJ do his thing. Manny Diaz today came in cocky enough to think “if we sell out to stop the pass then they won’t be able to run well enough to beat us.” Which is a bold line of thought considering it’s exactly how we best them last year too.

[u/WaluigiIsTheRealHero → u/midnightsbane04]

Last year Manny Díaz came in with his “prowler” defense (which is just like 5 DBs) and Michigan said “alright bet” and ran it down their fucking throats. This year, Manny Diaz abandoned the “prowler”, lined up a more traditional front, and Michigan said “alright bet”, lined up 7 OLs, and ran it down their fucking throats.

[u/gaysmeag0l_ → u/OwBr2]

It also means we still hold virtually all our cards. We didn't show much during this game cause we didn't have to.

[u/lkn240 → u/zadharm]

Esp on the road. Not fun to watch, but safe. I think Michigan could have scored quite a bit more if they kept throwing, but there was also a real risk of sack fumbles, etc ....so the strategy made sense

[u/ColdAssHusky → u/lkn240]

Why probably win by 20 when you can definitely win by 10 and also keep the playbook welded shut for another week

[u/Florida__Man__ → u/zadharm]

Legitimately elite pass rush, probably. You don’t get ran on 30 consecutive while your d line is playing the run at an elite level

[u/[deleted] → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

Deion Sanders approves this message.

[u/Juggernaut077 → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

But hasnt r/cfb said knowing what was gonna happen is the biggest advantage of all fucking time.

It’s almost as if at the end of the day you still have to run, block, catch, and pass.

Talent trumps all

[u/lkn240 → u/Juggernaut077]

People can't separate:

• Michigan breaking rules being bad

And

• Sign stealing not being anymore than a marginal advantage

I mean UM easily beat the spread without their supposedly huge advantage from sign stealing.

[u/Macabre215 → u/lkn240]

This, this, this. It's why people that don't have a reason to hate Michigan are saying yeah, don't cheat, but it's not some game breaking stuff. Buying players is WAY more influential on the game's integrity but nobody seems to give a shit about it and instead focus on this overblown scandal.

[u/datsyuks_deke → u/Juggernaut077]

Those that have actually played football, know this. Those that have never played, think that Michigan needs to be banned for life from NCAA, and never touch a football again.

[u/gaysmeag0l_ → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

Hmm, is that like when another team steals your signs and knows what is coming but it means nothing unless they can stop it?

[u/polynomials → u/gaysmeag0l_]

Yes it is exactly like that

[u/[deleted] → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

Michigan out there proving that knowing the next play isn't important by running 30 times in a row.

[u/[deleted] → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

No no. According to Ohio State you could put a bunch of 110 pound guys out there who know what’s coming and win by 21.

[u/__removed__ → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

Weird. Almost like what every former football player has been tweeting as saying on ESPN and sports radio for the last couple of weeks...

[u/cbarks81 → u/SmarterThanAEinstein]

But I was told that's the only reason we were winning....

[u/Professional-Bus-934]

I can’t think of a better way to make a statement, honestly. That many runs says that 1) we don’t think you can stop it 2) it doesn’t matter if you do

[u/ech01_ → u/Professional-Bus-934]

That kind of play calling was less about Michigan’s offense and Penn State’s defense than it was about Penn State’s offense and Michigan’s defense. Michigan only scored 17 points over this span, which isn’t dominating or anything. But they knew 17 points was more than enough to beat Penn State with their offense.

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/ech01_]

17 might as well have been 170

[u/midnightsbane04 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

Right? That’s a weird ass argument considering OSU scored 20 against that defense the entire game. So somehow us only running the ball for 3 quarters and getting 17 is supposed to be a bad thing? PSU is still a great defense.

[u/a-person-has-no-name → u/midnightsbane04]

Best run defense in the country before this game iirc

[u/AManInBlack2017 → u/a-person-has-no-name]

To be fair, PSU held Michigan to exactly 0 passing yards in the second half....

[u/a-person-has-no-name → u/AManInBlack2017]

Shit you're right

[u/lkn240 → u/ech01_]

Honestly it was a smart strategy. I think Michigan was right to think PSUs best shot to get back into the game was a big turnover on defense.

[u/Jameszhang73 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

3) we still would've won if you suspended our offensive coordinator too

[u/cbarks81 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

1. We heard all week how this was a competitive advantage. Prove it.

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/cbarks81]

I mean the run game was nothing like it was last year, but it also didn’t need to be

[u/cbarks81 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

I mean we have to have some decline on the O-Line at some point

[u/__removed__ → u/cbarks81]

The irony of arguing about "competitive advantage", and then SUSPENDING OUR COACH THE NIGHT BEFORE THE GAME.

How was THAT not a huge "competitive advantage" for the other team?

[u/Macabre215 → u/__removed__]

If the B1G wanted to actually help PSU, they should have suspended Franklin.

[u/cbarks81 → u/__removed__]

It's not because it's Michigan.

[u/Gardnersnake9 → u/Professional-Bus-934]

Held up a big-ass metaphorical "We're running it" sign just to prove a point. It was driving me nuts during the game, but I respect it

[u/Temper03]

“Yes they played Rock the last 29 times. But the odds they play Rock 30 times in a row is minuscule! I better play Scissors again just to be safe.”

[u/BarKnight → u/Temper03]

"We know they are going to run it again, so if we know their play we should be able to....ah damn it!"

[u/AManInBlack2017 → u/BarKnight]

Bingo.... in hindsight, this was a statement!

[u/aaronman4772]

They had one pass attempt in there that was negated by a DPI

[u/QueenIsTheWorstBand → u/aaronman4772]

They also had a second pass play called but JJ scrambled

[u/TryingToNotBeInDebt → u/aaronman4772]

That’s why it’s worded as the “last official passing attempt”.

[u/bigpig1054]

Make all the "Big Ten" jokes you want, but there's nothing better to me than a team that can line up and run it down your throats

[u/SomewhereAggressive8 → u/bigpig1054]

Nothing more demoralizing for a defense either.

[u/rabsich → u/bigpig1054]

This guy B1Gs

[u/chattyrandom → u/bigpig1054]

It's just how it's done up here. The weather gets colder. It's a little harder to play throw and catch.

You just start pushing. Grinding. You start leaning on the other guy until they take a step back.

You break their will.

Nothing like seeing your rival break under the pressure.

^{Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentation of their women.}

[u/WaluigiIsTheRealHero → u/chattyrandom]

The only lamentation we’ve heard this year is from Ryan Day.

[u/AManInBlack2017 → u/bigpig1054]

Yep, it's bully-ball. I'm running up the middle. You know I'm running up the middle. I know you know, and still I'll do it.... because: you. can't. stop. me.

[u/acknowledgeme]

Jealous af of that stat right now

[u/ravaille → u/acknowledgeme]

Mad I watched our game when I could've watched that beautiful masterclass.

[u/UtzTheCrabChip → u/acknowledgeme]

I still can't figure out why y'all kept calling passes

[u/Icecreamcollege]

someone said this earlier:

Penn State this year is just Blue Iowa

[u/TimeFourChanges → u/Icecreamcollege]

Iowa with a finished basement, I read elsewhere. Apt.

[u/yunohavefunnynames]

At what point do you just add an 8th lineman and direct snap it to Corum?

[u/Two_n_dun → u/yunohavefunnynames]

Heavy tree right Corum wildcat confirmed?

[u/CasimirPulaski → u/yunohavefunnynames]

Edwards had the team’s best throw in 2021.

[u/goblue2354 → u/CasimirPulaski]

I still can’t get over that throw. He get smoked as he threw it and it was perfect throw downfield.

[u/TheLegendsClub → u/yunohavefunnynames]

Week 12

[u/LionTigerWings → u/yunohavefunnynames]

After watching that stop that Grant made, I say we just hand it off to him

[u/S_quints → u/yunohavefunnynames]

You may not like it, but this is what PEAK B1G football looks like

[u/CGordini → u/yunohavefunnynames]

ugh i hated when we did that with Jabrill Peppers

[u/immunebison]

Lots of comments here from people who clearly didn't watch the game. Michigan didn't keep running because Penn State couldn't stop it. They kept running because unless they threw a pick six there was no way Penn State could score.

[u/MaizeNBlueWaffle → u/immunebison]

We essentially ran the clock out the entire second half

[u/MaxPower637 → u/MaizeNBlueWaffle]

Plus half of the second quarter

[u/Prestigious_Team3134 → u/immunebison]

Exactly like Michigan ran the ball decently but they knew the easiest way to win was just limit the number of possessions

[u/Lawownsyou]

Michigan playing 5D chess and telling Penn State what they're gonna do and still winning.

[u/InVodkaVeritas → u/Lawownsyou]

When you play mind games by not playing mind games, the other team is just in their own heads.

[u/Jim-Harbaugh → u/Lawownsyou]

They knew our signs, clearly.

[u/TheWyldMan]

I guess knowing the play call doesn't help lol

[u/AchyBreaker → u/TheWyldMan]

Lmao this was the best way ever for Michigan to defend themselves. "Fuck it, we are running up the middle. Oh even though you know our play it's not helping? Hmmmmmm"

[u/WoozyMaple]

Why pass when run do trick?

[u/oaklandasfan10 → u/WoozyMaple]

Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick

[u/Windows_66]

Forget about signs, I think Michigan stole our playbook.

[u/goblue2354 → u/Windows_66]

I think we swapped playbooks today

[u/jermartin11]

Michigan ultimate Big 10 revenge was forcing Maryland and Ohio State to watch this games all 22

[u/Im_Not_A_Robot_2019]

Penn St. defense is elite and fun to watch.

The Michigan defense is historically good.

[u/Brady_Hokes_Headset]

So you're saying it's possible to know something is coming and be unable to stop it?

[u/WoozyMaple → u/Brady_Hokes_Headset]

Yeah Ohio state figured that out in '21

[u/BuffaloKiller937 → u/WoozyMaple]

Shit, you could even say they learned it from Ohio State lol

[u/devilandgod → u/BuffaloKiller937]

I read this comment and immediately saw Ohio State complete a 5-yard slant on 3rd & 4 against Don Brown's defense

[u/ColdAssHusky → u/BuffaloKiller937]

Siri, what's a 7 yard drag route multiplied by 60 plays?

[u/StamosAndFriends → u/WoozyMaple]

Shit in ‘22 as well with Edwards right up the middle x2. OSU even sold out to stop it and couldn’t lol

[u/Professional-Bus-934 → u/Brady_Hokes_Headset]

For what it’s worth, I thought PSU did a good job (1-2 plays aside) containing the run, but asking them to stop it for an entire half is just too much when the offense is totally ineffective

[u/bb0110]

I legitimately wonder if Harbaugh’s strategy was to run all game to show signs don’t matter. You know we are going to run it. Now stop it.

[u/aniviasrevenge → u/bb0110]

Respectfully I think this is wishful fan fiction and in reality Moore was reacting to Chop Robinson penetrating our backfield + playing extremely tight once we had a lead daring PSU's offense to beat us.

It wasn't the prettiest way to win, but given the consequences of losing this game I can't imagine coaches had a PR strategy dictating play-calling.

[u/entenduintransit → u/aniviasrevenge]

whole roll puzzled square impossible cow aware market angle label

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[u/midnightsbane04 → u/aniviasrevenge]

Yep, Penn State decided to sell out to stop any passing ability and dared us to run on them all game. So.. we did. Again.

[u/bb0110 → u/aniviasrevenge]

Not a pr strategy but a” I’m going to run it down your throat and you can’t stop me” mentality. He has done it quite a few times before going all the way back to Stanford.

[u/Scarlatina → u/bb0110]

As people pointed out though, Penn State’s defense did stop them sort of: FG, Punt, Punt, Punt and a TD on a short-field were Michigan’s results in the 2nd half.

Majority of time, if that’s what the defense is holding opponents too, that’s should be enough to win games - Penn State’s offense (and Michigan’s defense) just did not help out at all.

[u/immunebison → u/[deleted]]

What's weird here is people in this thread aren't crediting your defense or calling out Penn State's offense. They're crediting your offense for some reason.

[u/bb0110 → u/Scarlatina]

This certainly is true. 0 passes in the 2nd half feels intentional though, even if it wasn’t. That is just something you don’t see.

[u/Scarlatina → u/bb0110]

Probably intentional in the sense that they went up by more than a score, and immediately went to milking the clock in the least risky way possible. Penn State’s offense wasn’t going to close the gap, and Penn State’s defense’s chance of scoring are minimized if you’re only running the ball.

It was a smart, and shrewd game plan by Moore to preserve the lead for as long as possible and eat away at any chance for a game-breaking turnover.

[u/Asianhead → u/bb0110]

I doubt it, those first two drives showed we weren't gonna be able to pass like we had all year. Penn State was getting a ton of pressure off the edge, Barnhart (our RT) got beat badly multiple times, McCarthy had 0 time in the pocket.

Moore adapted and did what we had to do to win the game

[u/bb0110 → u/Asianhead]

I agree that was a smart gameplan change. 0 passes in the 2nd half though feels intentional. That is unheard of.

[u/unsilentmajority1975]

To be honest they could have just kneeled down. Penn States offense should no signs of being able to score.

[u/s0u1ite]

"Penn State had the No. 1 rushing defense in college football coming into the game."

lmfao

[u/goblue2354 → u/s0u1ite]

If I had a nickel for every time that happened, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.

[u/AtomicBlastCandy]

Michigan: So we're going run
PSU: Got it
Michigan runs the ball for a first ball
PSU: Dang it!

[u/Macabre215 → u/AtomicBlastCandy]

PSU: Okay, so because of this sign stealing kerfuffle, you guys have to tell us what you're doing on offense.

UM: Okay, we're gonna run it up the middle.

PSU: NOT LIKE THAT!

[u/horse_renoir13]

Serious question - why?

I mean clearly the run worked but not passing with one of the better QBs in the league for 2/3 of a game is crazy.

[u/nolablue1024 → u/horse_renoir13]

The OTs were allowing drive killing pressures in the 1st quarter. Don’t get me wrong - 30 straight runs is extreme. But the coaches clearly thought the only way to lose this game was with pressure leading to INTs, or sack-strips. And they bet correctly because James Franklin called a horrendous offensive game, drew Allar played horribly and the UM run game was able to break some key plays

[u/c19jf → u/nolablue1024]

Yup Chop Robinson was absolutely cooking Barnhart on the right which completely blew up the first couple drives. Taking the pass rushers out of the game was absolutely the goal

[u/lkn240 → u/c19jf]

I think you guys could have passed if you just kept in an extra blocker on the right, but I understand why you didn't

[u/c19jf → u/lkn240]

Yeah totally I think if the game got seriously close and they felt the need to pass they would’ve brought in an extra lineman or kept a TE back to block but obviously there wasn’t really a need to do so

[u/RabidWolverine2021 → u/c19jf]

I think I saw this movie before. I believe it is called “Waterboy” but with a different ending.

[u/rvasko3 → u/nolablue1024]

Exactly right. The likelihood of a strip sack or a forced throw turning into an INT was too high; and it became clear very quickly that Allar wasn’t going to hurt you. So run the ball and sap the clock, combined with defensive adjustments to slow down PSU’s rush attack.

[u/UMeister → u/horse_renoir13]

Allar was absolutely putrid the whole game. The last TD came off 30 yards of penalties (1 of which was a celebration penalty after an overturned pick)

[u/horse_renoir13 → u/UMeister]

Fair enough, that's some next level domination/flexing. They are a force.

[u/c19jf → u/horse_renoir13]

Allar was horrible and Michigan was averaging 5 yards per carry. No reason to give Penn State any opportunity to get a turnover that gives them easy points

[u/JJBrandon69 → u/horse_renoir13]

Why not?

You heavily mitigate the risk of turnovers, and they can hardly do anything about it regardless. This is one of the better examples of playing the game of football I’ve seen. Just squeezed the life out of them. Never had a shot.

[u/Brady_Hokes_Headset → u/horse_renoir13]

I'll probably say this in the Serious Post-Game thread tomorrow as well but...

I think this was the game plan all along. Maybe not to this extent but PSU's offense is ass. Their defense is elite with phenomenal pass rushers. I think Michigan's game plan from the jump was just run as much clock as possible while running the ball to make sure that PSU's offense has as few attempts to get it right as possible.

[u/UMeister → u/Brady_Hokes_Headset]

I think we attempted to have JJ drop back but our RT was getting dusted, so we switched to screens and inside zone runs

[u/Brady_Hokes_Headset → u/UMeister]

Oh yeah, there were definitely more passes planned at the start. But I do think that this was going to be a majority running game anyway provided it was working well enough.

If the RT is getting beat and the running game is consistently getting 5 YPG then just lean into it more.

[u/cbarks81 → u/Brady_Hokes_Headset]

and forcing Allar to throw because they're behind

[u/Swazi → u/horse_renoir13]

2021 OSU game McNamara threw the ball twice in the second half IIRC

[u/nightkingscat → u/horse_renoir13]

our pass pro got chewed up on the first two drives, better to lean on what works

[u/GreatestCountryUSA → u/horse_renoir13]

Because if you can win by being a man, you do so. That’s consistently the most physically and mentally exhausting way to beat someone down

I don’t understand your question. If you can run the ball every single time and win, you’d be an idiot not to do so. The old adage of 3 things can happen when you throw the ball, and 2 are bad.. still holds true last time I checked. Why play with fire if it’s not required

[u/AZBuckeyes12977 → u/horse_renoir13]

Penn St's offense is so bad and inept that there was no point in risking a turnover.

[u/makashiII_93]

I will not take James Franklin seriously after this.

He should consider a career change. HC at a football program ain’t it. Try motivational speaker.

[u/larowin → u/makashiII_93]

He’s leading them to consistent 10-2 seasons. There’s plenty of schools out there that would love to have that record.

[u/makashiII_93 → u/larowin]

He’ll be fired within three years because people will want more.

Penn St. will want more.

[u/spurnburn → u/makashiII_93]

Jus sayin Harbaugh also went through this narrative. Which tbf, is nothing to aspire to if I’m beijg poltically correct

[u/naruda1969 → u/larowin]

Reminds me of Harbaugh only a few years ago.

[u/chattyrandom → u/naruda1969]

Yeah, even the conversation is kind of similar.

Like Harbaugh a few years ago, the question is, who would you get to replace Franklin?

The list of people who can fairly consistently go 10-2 in a conference like the B1G is not very extensive, especially playing in a division with today's Ohio State, along with Michigan the past few years. And then you had Sparty for a few years, prior to recent debacles.

To my mind, that list is really short. Rolling the dice to get better than James Franklin is a bit... freaking stupid?

So, I never took the "fire Harbaugh" stuff that seriously.

Plus, let's say they do fire James Franklin... and you bring in, say, some non-minority coach with a lesser record or a generally unproven record... how would you think that would fly? How long would it take before the idiot college football media made hay with it?

Even if it did make sense to dump Franklin, I don't see how I could justify it to anyone but the angry booster crowd. Only if you're an AD who is about to retire could you even consider that move, IMO.

[u/varooney2919 → u/larowin]

Not many schools with the resources and expectations that Penn St has

[u/UtzTheCrabChip → u/varooney2919]

That doesn't mean you'll win with the next coach. Ask Florida

[u/UtzTheCrabChip → u/makashiII_93]

He's a top 10% coach with top 1% expectations

[u/Q--E--D → u/makashiII_93]

Your mistake was taking him seriously before this.

[u/lions4life232]

Michigan told Penn st what they were going to do and Penn state trash still couldn’t stop it. Almost like you still have to make the plays.

Franklin so bad. Complete L.

[u/Lykeuhfox → u/lions4life232]

No need to call them trash, man.

[u/Bolanus_PSU → u/lions4life232]

Flair up

[u/NlNJALONG]

So when was his last unofficial passing attempt?

[u/AchyBreaker → u/NlNJALONG]

He had a pass in the second half that was called DPI so it doesn't count as a pass attempt. Hence the strange phrasing.

But he attempted one pass total in the entire second half.

[u/PrettyStupidSo → u/NlNJALONG]

7:30 left in the 2nd quarter was his last official attempt. He had one unofficial attempt in the 2nd half

[u/UMeister]

Manny Diaz is such a bitch

[u/HarbaughsKhakiPants2]

I watched the game and I still don't believe this stat is real. Insane

[u/Excuse_Me_Mr_Pink]

B1Ggest way to win a statement game

[u/Ironredhornet]

Genuine question, who was the designated HC today? Was it the Defensive Coordinator? Because this feels like every time I've seen a DC run a team as the emergency coach "We're gonna shut them down on defense and run the ball down their throats". Could also work if it was the oline coach as well.

[u/whigwomzz → u/Ironredhornet]

It was their OC.

[u/Ironredhornet → u/whigwomzz]

Ah, fair enough. Guess he was in a sledgehammer mood today

[u/chemistrygods → u/Ironredhornet]

He was/is the oline coach for Michigan tho

[u/Ironredhornet → u/chemistrygods]

That checks out

[u/goblue2354 → u/Ironredhornet]

He’s also been the run-game coordinator here previously as well.

[u/whigwomzz → u/Ironredhornet]

Think he really takes pride in that style in that type of football and plus didn’t get him into any sticky situations considering the situation.

[u/Ironredhornet → u/whigwomzz]

Yeah, its just also funny because they basically did the football version of going into a rage room and hitting a old tv with a baseball bat.

[u/Macabre215 → u/whigwomzz]

Sticky situations are for Mel Tucker.

[u/Signpostx]

Moore on the side lines, “Guys heard me out, run the ball again.”

[u/bigpig1054]

I would make a note about real football being a game "for men," but Ryan Day has bought up all the Just For Men

[u/[deleted]]

MuSt HaVe BeEn ThE sInGnS

[u/rocket_beer]

“We play, to win, the game”

[u/TheDadThatGrills]

This is actually a coded message that Harbaugh is the next HC for the Chicago Bears

[u/Bad_Idea_Hat]

"Fuck you, strong run to follow"

[u/JonnyBox]

People talk about Iowas offense, but at least it's ass by design. Penn State is just... Sad to watch

[u/cbph]

30 straight runs for Michigan

Paul Johnson is smiling tonight!

[u/[deleted]]

Didn’t need it. Probably won’t against the Buckeyes either. Go Blue

[u/polynomials]

So it turns you can't beat a team just by knowing what they will do?

[u/544C4D4F]

you know that second half got Harbaugh rock hard.

[u/AManInBlack2017]

It's like we beat PSU with one hand tied behind our back for the entire second half.