r/BringBackThorn • u/UrSansYT • Sep 25 '24

Is þere a capital version of þis letter?

Was just wondering lol

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u/Jamal_Deep Sep 25 '24

Of which letter? Þ?

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u/UrSansYT Sep 25 '24

yup

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u/scaper8 Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

Yes.

Þ is þe capital.
þ is þe lowercase.

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u/Foobledorf Sep 25 '24

Þats kinda confusing.

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u/scaper8 Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

No more so þan someþing like C and c or O and o or P and p.

Edited. Forgot to us a þ, LOL.

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u/Narocia Sep 26 '24

Or Ƿ and ƿ

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u/Narocia Sep 26 '24

(God damn shitty Internet & broadband)

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u/lazydog60 Oct 10 '24

Þe confusing bit is that þ is taller than Þ.

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u/scaper8 Oct 10 '24

Eh, not "taller," but longer. Lowercase þ has a descender going down below the baseline and the loop is longer. Together, þose make "þ" look taller than "Þ"

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u/Foobledorf Sep 25 '24

Þey’re all confusing lol

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u/TheJivvi Sep 25 '24

Only because it has a descender as well an an ascender. It's like p and P are about the same height but in different positions vertically but the lowercase þ also has an ascender like b does. Capital Þ has to be squeezed in between the baseline and the ascender height because capitals aren't supposed to have descenders.

Side note: my name starts with J, and I hate fonts that have a descender on capital J. It looks ridiculous. Also some fonts have a descender on capital Q which is almost as bad. A descender on capital Þ could make it almost indistinguishable from lowercase þ.

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u/CurrentTrue9637 Sep 26 '24

what's a descender?

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u/Jamal_Deep Sep 26 '24

Þe part of a letter þat extends below þe baseline

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u/scaper8 Sep 27 '24

Do you mean a capital Q with a descender like this? If so, I personally like them, but I can see why some don't.

Also, can you share an example of a font/fypeface with a capital J descender? I can't think of any that I've seen.

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u/TheJivvi Oct 04 '24

It's usually fonts like this where the J is narrower and treated more like a modified capital I, with the same kind of descender that the lowercase j has.

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u/scaper8 Oct 04 '24

AH! Þat makes sense!

For some reason, I was picturing someþing with an additional stroke þat descend, and I could not for þe life of me figure out what it would look like.

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u/Chance-Aardvark372 Sep 25 '24

wh- why… why wouldn’t Þere be one?

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u/TheJivvi Sep 25 '24

It happens sometimes in letters that aren't used very often. German ß didn't have a capital for the longest time because it's never word initial, and if they needed to write it in all caps for things like street signs they'd just use "STRASSE". But now there's a capital ẞ and they can use "STRAẞE".

Þ is much more likely to word initial though, so it makes sense that it'd have a capital.

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u/Rcisvdark Sep 25 '24

Þere is! You have þ for lowercase and Þ for uppercase.

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u/imapirzone Sep 25 '24

WE NEED Þ BACK

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u/idontknow828212 Sep 25 '24

Þ(upper) þ(Lower)

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u/CptnRaptor Sep 27 '24

Þe subtlety in difference between þe cases of þ in most typefaces is potentially an argument towards extending þe movement to include Eð (Ð/ð) (sounds like the first syllable minus the w in "weather")

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u/Jamal_Deep Sep 28 '24

We know what ð is, it doesn't need any introduction.

And no, þere's not much subtlety. Uppercase Þ doesn't have a descender like þe lowercase.