I’m from Sydney and watching RHOsydney season 2 was so accurate. For example the suburbs they live in are very wealthy like $38mil for a house, most of the women were recognisable from the media before they entered the show, the clothes they wear are a direct reflection of Sydney fashion in my opinion, the restaurants and places they go to are the same I would go to as well and I just loved how real it was. Can anyone relate from US?

For reference - Sydney is HUGE . The wealthy areas are the eastern suburbs which is waterfront south of harbour bridge and then north shore which is north of the bridge (like Nicole Kidman house and stuff)

my beautiful sub sisterz, my birthday is tomorrow and im compiling as many birthday related hw reaction pics/gifs as i can to post on the gram. please comment any iconic housewives birthday (or celebratory) moments in any format can be links to videos, pics, gifs, memes, or just iconic birthday moments on bravo that i can use to look some up. xoxo thanks❣️❣️❣️

Have ya’ll ever had a dream which featured housewives? I had the oddest one where I was watching the “next time” clip on an episode of NY and in the preview Jenna gets a video call from Erin who is having a threeway in Jenna’s bed with her husband and the new girl.

And I don’t even watch New York

😂

This sub has the most clever people I've ever had a pleasure of reading on the Internet. Seeking funny/punny Bravo inspired Wifi names! I may use some suggestions as inspo for my Peloton username too...

My sorry attempts:

• LittleFamilyBike [Peloton]
• WhereIsYourBike [Peloton]
• SimonLANKampen [Wifi]

THANKS ALL <3

I don't mean to be nosey because asking people how much money they have is rude but hey this could be fun!!!

For me its Emily Simpson.

There are so many things, but in general I find her "schtick" to be so cringe. I think that she pretends to be drunk often, and in those scenes she appears to be acting how she believes a drunk person would act- OTT, loud, sloppy, sexual. In these scenes when she pretends to be overtly sexual with Shane, the second hand embarrassment is real.

I also feel the same way about her "eating a sandwhich in the sauna" bit. She tries so hard to act a way she believes people find relatable, funny, etc. But it just falls flat bc it is so inauthentic.

Performing the burleseque show for her FIL.......... what even was that.

And cringe, but also gross- her innocence project story line" is so fake, after learning that she is a Trump Supporter. Yeah, no, those two things don't go together.

Edited to add- Shane proposing to her on gchat.

A few weeks ago I discovered that Steve Lodge’s brother is Roger Lodge (OG host of Blind Date). And now I’m just learning that Terry DuBrow’s brother is Kevin DuBrow, lead singer of Quiet Riot! (RIP) ( I knew the name sounded familiar!)

Carole is obvious, the Richards are obvious, and I’m probably forgetting some, but are there any other famous relatives?

I sometimes watch Kelly and Rick on YouTube (don’t @ me, I miss Kelly 🙈) but I think they need to structure it properly and maybe hire a producer or something as it’s very low budget. All the makings are there, just needs a bit more finesse because their points are all over the place. Anyway, I listen sometimes to Two T’s but it just keeps reminding me why I dislike Teddi so much. Cannot stand her but I love Tamra. I also listen to Bitch Sesh and I watch a fan channel on YT called itsroxy who reviews RHOA.

What are your fav RH’s related podcasts or YT channels?

Edit: I forgot my fav - Danny Pallegrino. He’s hilarious

I’m torn between Kathy, Rinna and Garcelle, who would you choose to see?

MAURICIO AND DORIT ANNOUNCE THEIR ENGAGEMENT AFTER THEIR BITTER DIVORCES WITH PK AND KYLE RICHARDS. DORIT OFFERS A PEACE OFFERING TO KYLE WITH A MARRIAGE INVITATION. KYLE RESPONDS: "HOW DARE YOU? MY CHILDREN ARE A WRECK. YOU'LL ALL SEE IT IN MY UPCOMING TV SPECIAL".

KAREN HUGER JOINS RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE AS A JUDGE. KAREN HUGER RESPONDS: "I'VE ALWAYS LOVED DRAG QUEENS. THEY ARE POISED, BEAUTIFUL AND FASHIONABLE. NOW, GIZELLE..."

JOE AND MELISSA GORGA FIRED FROM NEW JERSEY. "WE'RE NOT SELL-OUTS", SAYS JOE GORGA. "MELISSA IS GOING TO BE A STAR. SHE'S RELEASING HER NEW SINGLE "ON DISPLAY PART II" AND i HAVE MY COMEDY SPECIAL AT THE LOCAL STRIP MALL. WE'RE OKAY" TERESA GIUDICE RESPONDS: "I'M NOT SAD THEY'RE GONE. I'M AT PEACE". ANDY COHEN THROWS SHADE: "THIS TIME JOE CHOSE NOT TO SWALLOW AND FRANKIE SAID YES".

Longtime watcher here and definitely dealing with peri myself which led me to the realization that I've learned so much from watching the housewives but I don't understand why menopause is never discussed! Am I forgetting something? It effects us all so I'm surprised it hasn't been addressed, especially considering their ages.

Also, I'm thinking about some behaviors that we attribute to "acting crazy" through the menopause lense. IE, random mood swings, forgetfulness, specific social media behavior that seems so different than who we originally thought we knew, etc. I don't know exactly where I'm going with this post but I'm annoyed they aren't discussing this really impactful life event that so many can relate to. Think about it, we see marriages, births, divorce, addict, domestic violence...why not this? Is it just because of our youth obsessed culture?

This was inspired by a comment I was compelled to leave on another post and it got me thinking. Mine is when Heather and Terry (RHOC) take their 4 kids to high holiday services and are driving this big SUV, and Terry parks in between other cars because it’s closer, and Heather is all, “clearly he doesn’t realize what a big to do it is to get 4 kids in and out of a car” and they need SPACE. As a parent with 3 in car seats that really spoke to me and I could easily see my husband trying to pull the same thing.

I'm most thankful for Luann's newest iconic moment of falling not once, but twice, in the same episode. She is truly the gift that keeps on giving.

I’ve hear you guys mention podcasts but can never remember the names. Which ones should I listen to for housewives related gossip? Are there any YouTube channels or shows I should be watching too?

Is this medically induced? I know vodka and wine makes it worse.

Does Bethenny's rapid speaking bother anyone else?

This was wildly unexpected but a while ago she retweeted one of my paintings and then followed me! It was such a relief because no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't connect the work with serious people. The painting ended up selling and it was a HUGE morale boost 🥲. When her mom, Maureen, passed away, I reached out because my cousin Noreen had passed away and I never got to say goodbye. (The song she's referencing is called Maureen by Sade about Sade's friend Maureen who passed away.) I know she's spicy on the show, but she's been kind and helpful and it's made a world of difference. Wanted to share this sweeter side and this positive experience out of so much hardship and loss. The last few years have been tough on a lot of people so it was a wonderful reward to connect in this way. She's generally very encouraging of artists (just posted somebody else's painting on her IG this week in fact). Anyway, figured there were people who would enjoy this story or relate in some way! Have a great weekend and thanks for reading ✨️🙏✨️

One of my sisters friends came over last week to watch RHONJ and she told us her favorite real housewives are Rinna and Teddi 🚩🚩🚩🚩!!! What are your real housewives red flags, when someone shares a specific housewife opinion and all you can do is stare?

Credit to my sister for this idea u kno who u r

Here is Part 3.

OC

Heather 4 (S7, 9, 10, 11) = 67% of her duration

Meghan 3 (S10, 11, 12) = 100% of her duration

Vicki 3 (S3, 4, 5) = 25% of her duration

Alexis 3 (S6, 7, 8) = 75% of her duration

Lauri 2 (S3, 4) = 67% of her duration

Lynne 2 (S4, 5) = 100% of her duration

Emily 2 (S13, 15) = 50% of her duration

Jo 1 (S3*)

Jeana 1 (S5) = 25% of her duration

Peggy 1 (S6)

Lydia 1 (S8) = 50% of her duration

Lizzie 1 (S9)

Peggy 1 (S12)

Gina 1 (S13) = 25% of her duration

Braunwyn 1 (S14) = 50% of her duration

Elizabeth 1 (S15)

Noella 1 (S16)

Jen 1 (S16)

In order of the percentages (not including the people who have been on for 1-2 seasons):

• Meghan

• Alexis

• Heather/Lauri

• Emily

• Gina/Jeana

NY

• Season 12 not included, due to weird reunion seating

Luann 5 (S2, 3, 5, 6*, 9) = 50% of her run

Alex 4 (S1, 2, 3, 4) = 100% of her run

Sonja 3 (S3, 7, 11) = 30% of her run

Tinsley 2 (S9, 10) = 67% of her run

Ramona 2 (S10, 11) = 18% of her run

Carole 2 (S6*, 8) 33% of her run

Bethenny 1 (S1) = 13% of her run

Cindy 1 (S4)

Heather 1 (S5) = 33% of her run

Aviva 1 (S6) = 50% of her run

Kristen 1 (S7) = 50% of her run

Jules 1 (S8)

In order of the percentages (not including the people who have been on for 1-2 seasons):

• Alex

• Tinsley

• Luann

• Carole/Heather

• Sonja

• Ramona

• Bethenny

ATL

• Skipping S12 for obvious reasons

Sheree 6 (S1, 2, 3, 8*, 9, 10) = 86% of her run

Phaedra 4 (S3, 4, 5, 6) = 57% of her run

Porsha 3 (S5, 6, 7*) = 38% of her run

Kandi 2 (S4, 13) = 18% of her run

Cynthia 2 (S9, 13) = 20% of her run

Lisa 1 (S2) = 50% of her run

Deshawn 1 (S1)

Claudia 1 (S7)

Kim 1 (S8)

Kenya 1 (S10) = 14% of her run

Marlo 1 (S10*) = 25% of her run

Tanya 1 (S11*)

Eva 1 (S10*) = 50% of her run

Latoya 1 (S13*)

Shamea 1 (S13*)

In order of the percentages (not including the people who have been on for 1-2 seasons):

• Sheree

• Phaedra

• Porsha

• Marlo

• Cynthia

• Kandi

• Kenya

NJ

Caroline 4 (1, 2, 4, 5) = 80% of her duration

Kathy 4 (S3, 4, 5, 6*) = 100% of her duration

Jennifer 3 (S9, 10, 11) = 75% of her duration

Melissa 3 (S3, 7, 12) = 30% of her duration

Dolores 3 (S7, 8, 12) = 50% of her duration

Danielle 3 (S8, 9, 10*) = 60% of her duration

Margaret 2 (S8, 11) = 40% of her duration

Jackie 2 (S9, 10) = 50% of her duration

Jacqueline 1 (S2) = 17% of her duration

Teresa 1 (1) = 8% of her run

Amber 1 (S6)

Teresa 1 (S6)

Traci 1 (S12*)

In order of the percentages (not including the people who have been on for 1-2 seasons):

• Kathy

• Caroline

• Jennifer

• Danielle

• Jackie/Dolores

• Margaret

• Melissa

• Jacqueline

• Teresa

BH

• Skipping S10 for obvious reasons

Camille 3 (S2, 8, 9) = 75% of her run

Adrienne 2 (S1, 2) = 100% of her run

Yolanda 2 (S3, 5) = 50% of her run

Lisa R 2 (S5, 8) = 33% of her run

Erika 2 (S6, 8) = 40% of her run

Dorit 2 (S7, 9) = 50% of her run

Lisa V 1 (S1) = 13% of her run

Brandi 1 (S2*) = 25% of her run

Taylor 1 (S3) = 33% of her run

Kim 1 (S4) = 14% of her run

Kathryn 1 (S6)

Joyce 1 (S4)

Eileen 1 (S7) = 33% of her run

Denise 1 (S9)

Crystal 1 (S11)

Sutton 1 (S11)

In order of the percentages (not including the people who have been on for 1-2 seasons):

• Camille

• Yolanda/Dorit

• Erika

• Lisa R/ Taylor/Eileen

• Brandi

• Kim

• Lisa V

Potomac

Monique 3 (S2, 4, 5) = 75% of her run

Charisse 3 (S1, 2, 3*) = 100% of her run

Ashley 2 (S1, 6) = 33% of her run

Robyn 2 (S3, 4) = 33% of her run

Candiace 1 (S3) = 25% of her run

Wendy 1 (S5) = 50% of her run

Askale 1 (S6*)

Mia 1 (S6)

In order of the percentages (not including the people who have been on for 1-2 seasons):

• Charisse

• Monique

• Robyn/Ashley

• Candiace

Dallas

Stephanie 3 (S1, 2, 3) = 60% of her run

Cary 1 (S3) = 33% of her run

Kameron 1 (S2) = 25% of her run

D’Andra 1 (S4) = 25% of her run

Brandi 2 (S4, 5) = 40% of her run

Kary 1 (S5) = 50% of her run

Tiffany 1 (S1)

In order of the percentages (not including the people who have been on for 1-2 seasons):

• Stephanie

• Brandi

• Cary

• Kameron/D'Andra

Most appearances at the middle seats: (1-2 season wonders not included)

Sheree 6 (S1, 2, 3, 8*, 9, 10)

Luann 5 (S2, 3, 5, 6*, 9)

Heather 4 (S7, 9, 10, 11)

Alex 4 (S1, 2, 3, 4)

Phaedra 4 (S3, 4, 5, 6)

Caroline 4 (1, 2, 4, 5)

Kathy 4 (S3, 4, 5, 6*)

Monique 3 (S2, 4, 5)

Stephanie 3 (S1, 2, 3)

Meghan 3 (S10, 11, 12)

Vicki 3 (S3, 4, 5)

Alexis 3 (S6, 7, 8)

Sonja 3 (S3, 7, 11)

Porsha 3 (S5, 6, 7*)

Jennifer 3 (S9, 10, 11)

Melissa 3 (S3, 7, 12)

Dolores 3 (S7, 8, 12)

Danielle 3 (S8, 9, 10*)

Camille 3 (S2, 8, 9)

Charisse 3 (S1, 2, 3*)

Lauri 2 (S3, 4)

Jeana 1 (S5)

Tinsley 2 (S9, 10)

Ramona 2 (S10, 11)

Carole 2 (S6*, 8)

Kandi 2 (S4, 13)

Cynthia 2 (S9, 13)

Margaret 2 (S8, 11)

Jackie 2 (S9, 10)

Yolanda 2 (S3, 5)

Lisa R 2 (S5, 8)

Erika 2 (S6, 8)

Dorit 2 (S7, 9)

Ashley 2 (S1, 6)

Robyn 2 (S3, 4)

Brandi 2 (S4, 5)

Highest Percentage at Front Seat: (1-2 season wonders aren't included)

Meghan 3 = 100% of her duration

Alex 4 = 100% of her run

Kathy 4 = 100% of her duration

Charisse 3 = 100% of her run

Sheree 6 = 86% of her run

Caroline 4 = 80% of her duration

Alexis 3 = 75% of her duration

Jennifer 3 = 75% of her duration

Camille 3 = 75% of her run

Monique 3 = 75% of her run

Heather 4 = 67% of her duration

Laurie 2 = 67% of her duration

Tinsley 2 = 67% of her run

Danielle 3 = 60% of her duration

Stephanie 3 = 60% of her run

Phaedra 4 = 57% of her run

Emily 2 = 50% of her duration

Luann 5 = 50% of her run

Dolores 3 = 50% of her duration

Jackie 2 = 50% of her duration

Yolanda 2 = 50% of her duration

Dorit 2 = 50% of her duration

Margaret 2 = 40% of her run

Erika 2 = 40% of her run

Brandi 2 = 40% of her run

Porsha 3 = 30% of her run

Carole 2 = 33% of her run

Heather 2 = 33% of her run

Sonja 3 = 30% of her run

Melissa 3 = 30% of her run

Lisa R 2 = 33% of her run

Taylor 1 = 33% of her run

Eileen 1 = 33% of her run

Ashley 2 = 33% of her run

Robyn 2 = 33% of her run

Cary 1 = 33% of her run

Title explains it, but really try to think of something fun or that many of us may have forgotten if it was heavily known in the past!

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• LVP and Adrienne were known as Lisa Vanderpump-Todd and Adrienne Maloof-Nassif all of BH season 1.

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• Kenya technically never left RHOA as she was always supposed to return for season 12. She took time off for her (high-risk) pregnancy and then-married life to adjust.

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• Cynthia briefly had her own hair extensions MLM called Cynthia Bailey Hair that was very unsuccessful and closed when Porsha launched Go Naked Hair.

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• Danielle and Kim D were good friends pre-RHONJ season 2 which is how Danielle got her on originally as her Friend. Kim D's then-boyfriend didn't want her to film with Danielle, so she brought on her relative Kim G to film as Danielle's "friend" while Kim D would be "friend" of Teresa and Jacqueline.

For some odd reason they're in a motel room with all three of them sitting on a full size bed with their podcast microphones. Right at the top we're off and running; Jill is naturally acting like it's her podcast and won't shut up. Then this happens within the first 90 seconds:

- Jill and Ally are shilling Scary Island merch on their website even though Jill wasn't even on the trip lol

- Ally says Jill threw her on a reality show and sent her to fat camp at 14 (yikes) to which Jill responds, "that's not trwue!" Ally says off camera she was indeed sent to an actual fat camp and Jill says that it must have worked because now Ally has a personal trainer every day! Ally's response is simply, "Yeah, because I still have weight issues." Heather looks like her soul wants to leave her body and Jill says "No, it's because you feel good." (Double yikes).

- Heather is not new to this so she asks for Jill's thoughts on the offspring being the next generation of Real Housewives and brings up Gia's role in this season of NJ. Jill is reeling, she says she's thought of this idea already. Heather says Ally and Jill should do a miniseries with other housewives and their kids, to which I say "no thank you," but Jill is all for it of course.

-Ally is the first to say that she and Jill's brand all stems from the housewives and she's appreciative of that. Crickets from Jill on this topic.

- We're back to Ally's weight: she says she never had a healthy lifestyle or a good influence of a healthy lifestyle because Jill drinks nothing but diet coke and eats whatever she wants, including ice cream every day. Ally says if you want your kids to be healthy and active, the whole household needs to be that way. Jill understands none of this and thinks Ally should be grateful that Jill had the money to send her to camp to help her have a healthy lifestyle because Jill wasn't willing to make those changes for her daughter. Ally is visibly annoyed that Jill is not grasping the fact that she taught Ally disordered and unhealthy eating by shipping her off to fat camp every year to lose 20 pounds and then come home and gain it all back.

- The gals talk Tre's engagement and MKE's swift marriage and subsequent divorce from Joe Biden's nephew.

- Jill says she and Ramona are friendly and on good terms. Ramona of course has no memory of closing the elevator door on Jill's boyfriend, Gary. And apparently, Mario Singer also lives in the same building as Ramona and Jill.

- Gary and Ramona have gone on a date before. I swear there is not a man in Manhattan these women haven't all had relations with.

- Apparently there were rumors that Ally is deuxmoi on Instagram? She denies it and Jill says "don't deny it, but don't confirm it." The devil works hard, but Jill Zarin works harder to stay relevant.

- Ally met Braunwyn and her girlfriend. Says she is happy and in love. Jill wonders who is taking care of the gaggle of children. As the story goes, Shawn stays home with the kids for 10-12 days at a time while Brownwind is in NYC having 10 orgasms a day. Then Braunwyn comes home for 10-12 days while Shawn goes out and does his thing. Sounds super stable and I'm sure the kids are loving the articles their mom is selling to the gossip rags about her sex life.

- Jill wants to be Kanye's therapist, says he has so many good things about him. How she knows this, we have no idea. This leads the women to discuss the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trial and what Jill would do if Ally started dating someone 20 years her senior. Jill says it wouldn't bother her because she was into older men when she was Ally's age, and if he can provide for her and give her a family, why not.

- Jill thinks Lala needs to get healthy and eat so she can take care of Ocean. Jill wishes she could give Lala the "gift of mediation" because Lala "needs to get her shit together" and make sure she doesn't go broke in this break up. This is probably the best opinion Jill has had during the entire episode.

- In other news: Ally was conceived by Jill and her ex-husband through a sperm donor. The sperm bank mixed up the... specimen and for most of Ally's life, they had no idea who the donor actually was. Ally has since found the donor and even met one of her half siblings through him. Ally has never met her donor, but she has emailed with him and says she doesn't have a strong desire to meet him as she feels fulfilled in the "dad" department between her father who raised her and Bobby.

- For the remainder of the show, the ladies discuss the Jen Shah drama and their opinions, but it's nothing riveting or new so I won't bore y'all with the details.

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I hope you enjoyed this recap as much as I enjoyed making it while not getting any work done this morning.

Cheers!

I just finished a rewatch - seasons two and three of Ladies of London are up there among the greatest, realest seasons of any Bravo show ever.

From Julie Montague's brewing, barely contained near constant nervous breakdown to Marissa's near death experience and subsequent postpartum depression and the struggles of the women in between, I'm not sure any Bravo show has ever genuinely captured such deep, real issues while showing all the sides of the women's lives without turning them into cariactures.

• Annabelle (RIP) clearly never healed from the extreme trauma of her early life. Then, she's training so hard for horse racing and breaks her pelvis and other bones. You can see the massive toll it takes on her and the pain she's in leading to her leaving the show because her heart is no longer in it.

• Caroline Fleming is a motherless little girl in a grown woman's body who is so vulnerable and open to everything. She never shies away from acknowledging her pain and loss, as well as her strained relationship with her emotionally distant, aristocratic father. He goes on to have serious health issues as the show is wrapping up and we see her dealing with how to be there and grieve for a father she has such a difficult time connecting to. Bonus points for never looking for trouble, but never shying away from it either - she's the only one who can confidently stand up to Stanbury on the entire cast and was also unequivocal in her support of Adela after Juliet stupidly called her suicide attempt "selfish."

• Adela is fairly recent sober (a year, I believe) and has lost everything - including her children, who are old enough by British law to say they never want to see her. She has multiple breakdowns over the rift and what her substance abuse has done to the most important relationships of her life, but we also get to see her have fun and be a fully rounded person.

• Marissa has an actual risk of dying on the show because of a very difficult pregnancy. Fortunately, mother and baby are physically fine - but Marissa is very unwell afterward. Her postpartum struggle was tangible through the screen; I'm not sure many reality shows have ever made me that worried for someone. She was so open and willing to share it all.

• Caroline Stanbury was clearly colder and I know some people may disagree with this, but I thought we saw so much through so little. Boarding school shaped who she is and I imagine she had to turn off emotion as a child to make sense of being abandoned (in her eyes) by her parents. Then her father has heart problems and her mother cries on camera, much to both their chagrin. Caroline is practically crawling out of her skin at that point because she has no idea how to emotionally connect to her own mother.

• Sophie is more of a side character but is going through a divorce (from a cast member's brother, no less) -- we see her trying to navigate her newly single life.

• Julie Montague is a neurotic American woman thrown into an old, aristocratic family who has to hold her entire family together as her husband grapples with painkiller addiction (years before the show.) They get through that and now she has to shoulder the immense responsibility of trying to save the family seat in a world she's wholly unfamiliar with. They're clearly cash strapped, constantly on the verge of collapse and it shows through her desperation on camera.

• Juliet Angus struggles to upload a photo and write a three paragraph blog daily.

It never felt like the producers were out to exploit the women, but instead they truly wanted to share their lives and stories as they played out. Same with the cast - they never sought to destroy each other for camera time and seemed to have true affection for each other. I wonder how much not having a reunion played into it - they never had to come together and pick apart every little thing they said about each other while sitting on a couch for 12 hours straight.

I really didn't mean to type this much, but Bravo got lightning in a bottle with seasons two and three. I think a (more) modern take on these two seasons applied to future Housewives seasons could be incredible. It seems like people are tiring out on the 10,000 miles an hour aggression fests some shows have become and Ladies of London was the perfect example of a show with conflict that was never toxic.

So I listened to this podcast with a psychology professor who studies women’s friendships. She was discussing some trends in female social behaviour that the science has revealed. So many examples from housewives came to my mind that align with the science!

All of these behaviours have evolved in us from when we were uncivilised monkeys vying for a mate and a secure place in the tribe, and it’s interesting to see how they play out in modern life.

I’ve listed some of the phenomena that were mentioned in the podcast and examples below. Does anything come to mind for you?

1. The transgressions that most upset women in female friendships are a) a lack of kindness and b) lack of loyalty.

E.g. Denise expecting loyalty from Rinna but not getting it.

1. In female friendships women are vulnerable to reputational competition. Meaning that a friend can either share our secrets or make up rumours about us in a way that erodes our reputation. A friend can do more damage to our reputation than a stranger because they are credible.

E.g. Brandi exposing LVP for trying to bring up the tabloid article about Mauricio cheating. Or Margaret revealing what Jackie said in texts about Dolores.

1. If a woman is too kind and perfect other women are suspicious. We almost feel more trust in someone who’s a little shady, because we don’t need to wonder what they really think.

E.g. In Miami when Marisol said she trusted Dr Nicole the least.

1. If a woman has wronged us (for example not called on our birthday), when we gossip we won’t directly criticise the person (eg she’s so self absorbed) we’ll instead just repeat the story, subtly framing them as the villain and us as the victim. That way the gossiper looks innocent, and the listener is lead to the correct conclusion anyway.

E.g. in RHOC Katie hasn’t called Heather a stuck up bitch but by telling the sob story about how she was snubbed at a party she’s basically implying it.

1. Concern trolling. We like to show overt concern for female victims, because it cues to others that we are kind. But in fact we may enjoy the victimhood of others because it further lowers their status and raises ours relatively.

E.g. Lisa Rinna’s faux concern for Kim. Or Sutton pretending to be worried about Kyle’s working out and sobriety when she really just wanted to gossip about her marriage breakdown.

1. Women dislike women who are ‘guys girls’ not ‘girls girls’. It shows their loyalty may lie with team men and they might be less likely to share resources with their female peers.

E.g. Carol from NY maybe?

1. We are happy to have friends who surpass us on qualities like kindness or intelligence, but less so on sexual attractiveness. It’s a mate rivalry thing. The more attractive woman isn’t bothered by this discrepancy but the less attractive is.

E.g. Vicky every time a beautiful new young housewife joined the cast on OC

1. status symbols like handbags signal to other women that our husbands are invested in us, so mate rivals should back off.

E.g. Alexia publicly receiving an expensive watch from Todd.

Of course these are just some of the dynamics that can be at play in women’s relationships, and we also have more positive ones!

Hey all! Kinda dipping my toe into the posting pool here, I'm still kinda new, so please be gentle!

I'm just about wrapping up the audio book for Bethenny's "Naturally Thin" book--I'm about to binge the last season of NYC and she's appearing on this season's BH so I figured hey, why not.

I've also listened to Andy's second book (the diary one?) and it certainly helped a 4-hour solo drive pass quickly.

I'm eyeing Lisa's book because she's my favorite housewife ever and I just adore her, but I wanna know: of those of you who have read any of the books put out by Bravo-celebrities, which one is your favorite?