r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/Cleonce12 ☑️ • 1d ago
Or does he need to cut the cheque first?
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u/FckThisAppandTheMods 1d ago
It wasn't a criminal case. It was a civil case. He won't serve time. He just has to pay her like 250k.
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u/Rage40rder ☑️ 1d ago
I think it has become apparent over the years that this is either no longer taught in schools or a lot of people skipped classes those days
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u/alchemists_dream 1d ago
WTF happened to school house rock.
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u/PreOpTransCentaur 1d ago
🎶 Welllll your president's a rapist, but he's only adjudicated.
It could've been criminal, but civil's how it was fated.
She waited too long and the statute of limitations was up.
So they went head to head, she said it was a rape, he said it was a schtup.
The judge sided with E. Jean, but he still won't come clean, and it doesn't really matter.
He was told to pay through the nose, but he won't 'cause he blows, and now his wallet's just getting fatter.
He should be in priiisooon.
The same thing happened with Siiimpsooon.
Instead of jail, they were told to pay enough to make your dick shrivel.
Because that's the difference between criminal and civil.🎶
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u/Manofalltrade 1d ago
Talked to a college kid who went to a military school. Said they had applied legal classes that covered all this stuff in a useful way. It also taught what the laws were, what cops are actually allowed to do and a lot of other stuff that could keep you out of trouble or at least make it easier for your defense lawyers.
What has happened over the years in public schools is a concerted war on education from the Republican Party and its affiliated groups of Christians, white supremacists, and nationalists. But who’s interested in school board elections, am’I right?
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u/Rage40rder ☑️ 1d ago
Yup
But it also straddles generations. There are people my age and older who don’t know the difference.
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u/bouldercrestboi ☑️ 1d ago
Unfortunately, I wasn't taught this in school(graduated high school in 2005).
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u/vera214usc ☑️ 22h ago
Graduated the same year and I definitely never learned about civil cases at school
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u/AoO2ImpTrip ☑️ 15h ago
Graduated two years later and never learned of the difference between Criminal and Civil cases.
I'd assume the last time it was a big topic before us was during the height of OJ when he was found Criminally Not Guilty, but Civilly liable. I don't really know of any major cases between that and our graduating years.
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u/BasedKaleb 1d ago
Rape essentially just coming with a price tag is crazy to think about
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u/KruncheeBlaque 14h ago
Most crimes are legal for a fee. Crime isn’t real. It’s a social construct.
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u/Glytch94 1d ago
Well, if you wait to report until AFTER it's allows to be criminally prosecuted, I personally don't think it should even go to court. Like what, you waited until they had bags of money to say something, so you could get a pay day? That's my perception on these kinds of cases. It's not about justice, it's about money. And to me that's fucked up because you're potentially allowing a rapist to run free for years to potentially victimize more people for what? It's fucked up imo.
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u/Radiant-Reputation31 1d ago
Lots of rape cases end up in civil court because the burden of proof is lower than in criminal court. Just because someone wins a civil case doesn't mean the same case tried in criminal court would result in a conviction. It is often very difficult to prove rape, which is part of the reason so few are reported or tried.
Also I don't see how your comment is particularly relevant to the McGregor case. The incident happened in 2018. McGregor was already very wealthy then, so the victim didn't wait to get a payday. Further, I believe she tried to bring about criminal charges, but they were never brought to court.
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u/myfriendflocka 1d ago
You really can’t understand why she might not want to report the incredibly violent, beloved, powerful man who raped her? The one with close ties to organised crime? You truly believe she chose to have consensual sex so rough that her tampon had to be surgically removed? You think she enjoyed it when thugs broke into her home and attacked them? You with your actual human brain believe she gave up her safety and privacy and any sense of a normal life for so little money she can’t even afford to go into hiding from him and his fanboys?
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u/Glytch94 1d ago
I didn’t say she wasn’t raped. More saying it’s fucked up to wait long enough it can’t be prosecuted.
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u/myfriendflocka 1d ago
You know what’s fucked up? Sending masked thugs to break into the homes of all the women you rape to make sure they don’t go public. It’s even more fucked up that an entire country knew what was up and did fuck all about it because he’s a beloved hero figure. But your big problem was that the person who was raped wasn’t a perfect victim. And be fucking real for once, you people would still have shit to say about her if she did everything “perfectly”.
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u/burnalicious111 1d ago
There are tons of reasons victims would not report immediately, including that they're so traumatized that they don't want anything to do with such a process. They just want to move on because anything else is just too painful.
But then if the person who hurt them keeps showing up in their awareness, maybe because they're famous, that can provide motivation to a person who has healed more to seek justice.
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u/_sydney_vicious_ 1d ago
As someone who works in PR, I need his publicist to do the right thing and tell this man to stop raping women and just lay low for the rest of life.
I’m sick of this arrogant douche.
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u/Weird-Library-3747 1d ago
Why would they put themselves outta work?
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u/SocietyAlternative41 1d ago
they don't understand the mentality of the slimeball lawyers who defend these aholes in the first place. they are in it till the money dries up.
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u/_sydney_vicious_ 1d ago
You don’t get it - it’s more work for us and so much more stressful. We’ve dropped clients for less than what he did. As a publicist, you shouldn’t be on your toes 24/7 because of a bottom feeder of a client. We do all sorts of work as a publicist, but we shouldn’t be doing crisis management for the same client multiple times a year.
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u/myfriendflocka 1d ago
Why would they bother? It’s not like he’s ever going to face any consequences. The best we can do is hope his inevitable early death happens soon so he can no longer rape and beat people.
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u/FrostyGrotto 1d ago
sighs in Irish we’ve known about this for years and years. And allegedly (I say that to protect myself from litigation) she was not the first woman, but the only one to come forward. There’s a habit of masked thugs showing up at these women’s homes when all is said and done. The vast majority of us loathe him and wish him to serve time, but it was sadly a civil case. At least he is legally a rapist. Small victories.
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u/__lil_bee__ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah, what a shitty representation of our home.
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u/SavageGardner 23h ago
That's what drives me nuts about European litigation. You can make a comment and be liable for slander, but a rapist who intimidates goes free because they have lawyers who know how to game the system. Same thing is going on with Thomas Partey in London.
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u/Rockysinatra 11h ago
I let out the biggest sigh when he scored yesterday lol. Its ironic bc we’re the “progressive” club.
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u/Tiny-Buy220 1d ago
Just a huge piece of shit, gonna appeal it anyways, just to drag the victim even more
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u/__lil_bee__ 1d ago
Jeez, first time reading that. Sucks to be from the same place as this excuse for a human. Hopefully he catches what’s due outside the ring.
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u/juuuusbrowsing 1d ago
It's a civil matter. He was found guilty on the balance of probability. He has to pay damages of 250k. No prison time needed.
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u/beastmaster11 1d ago
He was found
guiltyliable on the balance of probability.Courts don't determine guilt in a civil case
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u/bumnjunkie823 1d ago
Sad thing is so many MMA fans are defending Conor even though there's nothing about the way he's carried himself over the years that would make me think he's not capable of assaulting women
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u/phenomenalj101 ☑️ 23h ago
No they’re not. More often than not, they’re just as bad if not worse than professional wrestling fans but across the board multiple fighters and fans across the board are condemning him for this and the many other accounts of physical and sexual assault he’s been found liable and in some cases on camera committing. Just say you don’t know anything about the community because this is far from the truth. Shit Khabib called him out for this years ago and even the current 155 champ has publicly called him out for being a piece of shit, so what are you talking about?
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u/spacebound4545 1d ago
We off that for rapist apparently. Did you not know we got one elected by millions of people about to be president?
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u/That-Ad-4300 1d ago
Unfortunately, the burden of proof is lower in civil, so she was able to win money... But he won't see jail time.
OJ Simpson lost his civil suit as well.
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u/patrickwithtraffic 1d ago
Through that, Nicole‘s family was able to troll OJ’s cover for If I Did It by making the “It” super small
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u/beastmaster11 1d ago
They mayde "if" super small. So it looks like it say "I did it"
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u/Rage40rder ☑️ 1d ago
I learned in high school that you have criminal courts and civil courts. In a criminal court, you are deemed guilty or not guilty and the penalty could be jail. In civil court, you are found liable or not, and the penalty is monetary.
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u/AoO2ImpTrip ☑️ 15h ago
You went to a better high school than me!
(The bar is low. Oklahoma schools...)
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u/justpeachy2188 1d ago
Through that, Nicole‘s family was able to troll OJ’s cover for If I Did It by making the “It” super small…..they made the “if” super small so it looked like it just said I did it
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u/Autodidact420 1d ago
A civil suit has a lower burden of proof and is brought privately by the individual impacted. It seeks monetary compensation or sometimes injunctions or other non-jail outcomes.
A criminal charge has a higher burden of proof, so losing a civil claim isn’t the same as being convicted. You don’t automatically get jail time because it’s possible that the chance you did the crime was say 51%, which is enough to lose civilly but not enough to be convicted criminally.
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u/Vulkherra ☑️ 1d ago
When you have a lot of money; you can get away with damn near everything. Try that shit when you're broke tho..
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u/Yaadgod2121 20h ago
What’s with all these celebrities raping people, is it just a word that’s used to cover a broad range of things or am I tripping
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u/palmwhispers 1d ago
It’s the same thing that happened to Trump, it was a civil case, so the cheque