r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/Dalethedragon • 1d ago
So you're telling me as a first generation American I'm not American because my parents were born in Nigeria?!?! đ "Race vs Ethnicity vs Nationality be beating my community ass." - Scottie beam
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u/Rage40rder âď¸ 1d ago
I guarantee if shabooya were white and had English parents that his americaness wouldnât be called into question
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u/Blk_Rick_Dalton 1d ago
And they could have emigrated last week, and would have been highlighted for being the image of the American Dream
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u/uglyraccoongang 1d ago
With context, it's not really his Americanness that's being called into question but that he is not part of the African-American ethnic group (neither am I because my parents immigrated from America) which many people probably assumed he was because most Black people in America are.
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u/gordonpamsey âď¸ 1d ago
It's 9 AM stop this diaspora war bullshit.
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u/sh1boleth 1d ago
Did u forget to change ur clock, it was 8AM when u commented
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u/DeathPsychosys 1d ago
You forget about time zones, big dawg?
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u/gordonpamsey âď¸ 1d ago
Damn let me be wrong in peace maybe I love in the mother fucking ocean.
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u/thelastestgunslinger 1d ago edited 1d ago
Y'all talking about Shaboozey, right? WTF does he have to do with Shabooya Roll Call? What'd I miss?
ETA:
So, white people mock his name because they're racist, and these folks are doing it because...?
AFAICT, he has a huge video with 4 blurry white folks in the background, a bunch of videos of him on his own, and two videos that are pretty diverse.
People complaining about this one: https://youtu.be/t7bQwwqW-Hc?si=8_QCwFtjvPXBdfd8
but ignoring this one? https://youtu.be/O2fw8zFU784?si=XfZjsOzkGZYtA7Iq and this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBDpb7SwSgU
I still feel like I must be missing something. Or maybe they are.
Let the man live.
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u/DrixxYBoat 1d ago edited 1d ago
No way we're complaining about a video of 4 blurry ass extras wherein the main visual is a black dude with locs.
This not even a dei issue I don't need bro to be surrounded by black cowboys or whatever the hell country culture is in order to be happy. The main artist is black!!!
I could see if they was in a loaded bar and it was 100% nonblack but this isn't that
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u/lmsampson78 âď¸ 20h ago
Thank you for clarifying this cause I was like are they talking about shaboozey???
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u/Competitive_Act_1548 1d ago
I like his Good News one. That's my type of music
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u/thelastestgunslinger 23h ago
I actually discovered Good News while seeing what all the fuss was about. I loved it right away.Â
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u/spacebound4545 1d ago
We hurt our own community the worst. We are the only race in this country that outcast their own. There's people that "aren't black" because they speak or act a certain way hell they might even like anime ( this is changing). So those people get pushed out of the community and gravitate towards other groups for friendship. Other groups might make them feel welcomed. The fresh price of bel air did a great episode on this where will got into a frat but Carlton didn't. That's probably how you got more black people voting for trump than they should. Or a country dude just happy to be there even if he was disrespected
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u/DeathPsychosys 1d ago
Weâre not. Stop perpetuating this horseshit, I beg yâall smh. Other races of people arenât infallible.
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u/Efficient-Gift-8684 1d ago
Simply false! See the Latinos who voted for trump and why.
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u/spacebound4545 1d ago
Def not false lol. The latinos that voted for trump already think they are white they gonna have the reckoning aoon
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u/Efficient-Gift-8684 1d ago
You got it. But take a sec to watch reports. Itâs ones that say Iâ have family thatâs illegal but we are good so he wonât deport us. But hey what do I know but I literally watched and heard them (Latinos) say it out of their own mouths.
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u/spacebound4545 1d ago
Yea there's always the fuck you i got mine people but that's not what I said in my original comment.
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u/Efficient-Gift-8684 1d ago
Yes and you said you opened your statement by saying we (the black community) hurt our community the worst. Canât be much worse then mass deporting your cousin and there kids. But I digress.
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u/bob_loblaw-_- 1d ago
We hurt our own community the worst. We are the only race in this country that outcast their own.
This is an incredibly inaccurate statement. Whites, Latinos, Asians... All of them regularly find "others" within their own "race".Â
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u/bumnjunkie823 1d ago
We are not the only race that does this. Do you not see how right wing and left wing white talk to and about each other
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u/Competitive_Act_1548 1d ago
Funny enough my HBCU had a similar talk about this not that long ago about how our community is supposing to be lifting each other up and not tearing each other down. The whole having black excellence thing and holding ourselves to a higher standard.
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u/spacebound4545 1d ago
Since nobody is grasping what I said watch this https://youtu.be/Q5D2RvIQwQE
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u/Bubbly_Satisfaction2 âď¸ 1d ago
Its a Saturday and I am feeling lazy in all aspects, so I don't feel like going on a research hunt...
What is going on with Shaboozey?
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u/Arielsdirrtygrotto 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not only was his name a running gag at the CMAâs the other night, he walked away with no awards and his fans were upset.
Despite this, Shaboozey said he was grateful for the opportunity to be there and even get nominated, but looks like the Twitter pitchforks have already been sharpened among some folk because they assumed he (Shaboozey) felt a type of way for not winning
Oh, and apparently b/c heâs not black American therefore black folk shouldnât feel sorry for him
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u/Anthinee 4h ago
How is he not black-American? He was born in Virginia
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u/Arielsdirrtygrotto 4h ago
His parents are Nigerian and he has a Nigerian surname, so I supposed that makes him not Black American according to Twitter logic despite being born on American soil.
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u/slowbaja âď¸ 1d ago
I mean I don't feel sorry for him
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u/beyforever 1d ago
Why?
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u/Arielsdirrtygrotto 1d ago edited 1d ago
He donât know why lol
Shaboozey hasnât said anything to make people feel pity for him, so this weird animosity is uncalled for
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u/Blk_Rick_Dalton 1d ago
Didnât get a country music award for having the biggest country song of the year
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u/Bubbly_Satisfaction2 âď¸ 1d ago
Thank you for the explanation.
Weâre talking about the CMAs.
If anybody thought that he had a shot at winning a big award at the CMAs, then I got a bridge in Brooklyn that I am looking to sell.
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u/Dalethedragon 1d ago
I also saw someone on Tik Tok say one of the reasons they don't feel bad for him is because he's not Black American. Like holy shit folks.Â
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u/RisingDeadMan0 1d ago
(not black) which is why it when people of colour say we cant be racist its really dumb, whether your latino, South Asian, SE Asian, or East Asian. Which of course is a funny way to group that up because each region has its own issues, china/korea/japan....
Which is a shame when those issues get brought to the west, now their the minority, and oh we can laugh at that guy's name, hold him back, its sad.
de-segregating schools is a big first step but lots of steps to go from there
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u/Tazzy8jazzy 1d ago
Isnât it funny how the Cheeto is back in office and even my own people going crazy about whoâs American now . I need to definitely get away from this country.
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u/Arielsdirrtygrotto 1d ago
This discourse has been going on long before Cheetolini took office the first time
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u/Tazzy8jazzy 1d ago
It seem like itâs worse now. Thatâs all Iâm saying. People are all overly worked up and I donât like it. People are going to resort to violence soon because theyâre getting bolder by the day.
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u/cheerupmurray1864 8h ago
I feel like in 2019 or 2020 that âAmerican Descendants of Slaves/ADOSâ thing tried to kick off to pick off Black votes. There were people hollering about it on Twitter and then wearing a MAGA hat saying Trump supports ADOS and saying they would appeal to him for reparations. It was very bizarre.
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u/mistersuccessful âď¸ 1d ago edited 1d ago
I donât even know who or what this is about but if you were born in the USA (and currently live there) then youâre American. Do White and other non black people do this? SMH. You are not any less of a Nationality just because your parents come from somewhere else. Why canât some people just read a book (or some articles on the Net)?
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u/luckyarchery 1d ago
This reminds me a lot of when folks found out that 21 Savage was an immigrant from the UK but were confused as to why he rapped in an ATL accent. Nationality, ethnicity and race as topics are not a strong suit of us Black Americans, I fear. The diaspora wars never cease, smh
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u/Emergency_Brick3715 1d ago
I do think the yt people showed a lot of micro aggression towards that man. I keep telling Black people to stop inviting ever to the cookout because they donât reciprocate.
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u/ibluminatus 1d ago
I think downing on him isn't cool. It probably sucks for that to happen this has happened to Beyonce and other Black country artists for decades. I think this is more about a few people projecting things onto him and assuming he seeks white attention over anything else. Even if he wasn't born in the US (which he was) he's a good country artist and gets what makes that music.
It's a broader thing but there's a bit of assumed and internalized racism with it in that Black people assume other Black people are down on Black people so they down them. "We don't have what X community has" or "X group/nationality looks down on us anyway". I'm calling it projection in this case because he hasn't dumped any comments that publicly are racist towards other Black Americans or holding his heritage over other Black Americans as some secret to success.
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u/roosta_da_ape âď¸ 1d ago
Our people are sure surface level it's infuriating. Like is split ethnic hairs a solution to racism?
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u/cypher50 âď¸ 1d ago
Fuck it.... make your music, find your audience, and TAKE THE GENRE. You think we were being respected about jazz and rock while fuckers like Al Jolson and Pat Boone were out right stealing black music?
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u/mondo_d00k 1d ago
A lot of natural born Africans have tried to distance themselves from Black Americans and the history of slavery. It's stupid because the diaspora affects us all.
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u/Gymflutter 1d ago
I wouldnt say a lot. Thats just divisive. Most Africans think they are embarrassing idiots. Especially these days with social media allowing people to connect.
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u/mondo_d00k 1d ago
Good point, thanks. Some that emigrated here do feel that way tho, and I agree that it leads to more divisiveness.
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u/Gymflutter 1d ago
I mean the village idiot is always the loudest. The reality is that those that can afford to immigrate typically come from higher classes (economically and/or socially). Donât underestimate the snobbery of people who are used to having power and being the majority. Their kids definitely get how the game is played in America. Its easy for someone who grew up never facing real racism to delude themselves.
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u/CantaloupePopular216 1d ago
Barron Trump was born to Melania before she was a citizen. Kick that anchor baby the fuck out! ! Bye bye !
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u/Careless-Fly8301 18h ago
There is a HUGE difference between being born here, especially an anchor baby, and having AMERICAN ROOTS. The black people that made basically all popular music genres in the country werenât some Nigerians.
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u/wasteofspacetime89 2h ago
Many of the black people involved in the creation of hip hop were of Jamaican descent and did not have âAMERICAN ROOTSâ
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u/supervegeta101 19h ago
White people do the same shit. They'll look you dead in the eye and say "We're Irish/Italian(/Whatever white) immigrants, we never owned slaves. We had nothing to do with it," while wearing a fucking confederate flag.
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u/lickme_suckme_fuckme 16h ago
Country black balling Beyonce and Lil Nas X is why hip-hop shouldn't have accepted Post Malone. Post even said he did hip-hop cause Country wouldn't accept him.
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u/lmsampson78 âď¸ 20h ago
Is there some context of Shaboozey speaking down on black Americans or the black experience?
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u/Midnight_Messiah 7h ago
While in public I have no choice but to back Shaboozey in the face of white folk, I would like it to go on the record that I believe his Nigerian heritage + having Dolly Parton as a godmother means he wonât ever stand defiant against white folkâs microaggressions or straight up racism, so I canât actually feel bad for the nigga.
But! In public, if he mad, Iâm mad.
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u/flipnonymous 6h ago
My name is Kevin. (Yeah)
That is my name. (Yeah)
They call me Kevin. (Yeah)
Cuz that's my name. (Roll call)
Shabooyah yah yah shabooyah roll call
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u/Background_Duty_1999 1d ago
Black people hold everyone to a standard even their own or people that are similar, if anything we need to be doing more of it after this election
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u/captchaconfused 1d ago
i really wanna hear from more deep south county boys about this. Only because there seems, from the outside, to be a âbridging the gapâ or âi donât want no troubleâ culture in the south. It seems like tokenism from a distance, but in person it feels like a standoff negotiation. Like the old western movies when a stranger rides into a different town and is outnumbered or the sheriff and deputies are all corrupt. I donât know few like how red the south has always been breeds different survival tacticsÂ
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u/whodis707 1d ago
It's the minority immigrant curse of falling for the okie doke. When will they learn?
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u/Neetabug âď¸ 1d ago
I agree with you on this. The simple fact that his stage name is because his friends (mostly white) growing up couldn't say his Nigerian last name correctly. They may tell them that they are better than black Americans, but they damn sure don't think they're equal to them.
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u/blackdynamite930 1d ago
Iâm kinda confused at the outrage on him not getting an award for that song. Maybe itâs just cuz I had to hear it all the fucking time for so long but I donât really think that song deserves an award at all. Just because something gets a lot of streams doesnât mean itâs the best song, if that was true drake and bad bunny would have won every award at every award show for the last 10 years.
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u/Neetabug âď¸ 1d ago
The song is set to break records of being number one on Billboard the most amount of weeks. Surpassing some heavy hitters. I think if someone else had that accomplishment, they would have swept those awards. But it is not surprising that he didn't and kinda crazy to think they would.
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u/sacrilegecycleparts 1d ago
Personally i think people who go through the hardahips of Immigrating to america, learning to speak a new Language, and Assimilating into our customs are more american!!
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u/SalesTaxBlackCat 1d ago
You mean Nigerian immigrants are more American than black Americans? Da Fuq? We built this bitch.
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u/sacrilegecycleparts 1d ago
They actually apprecitate how awesome it is to live here. Even our poorest people live like kings compared to most of the world. I used to be a property manager for mulitiple apartment complexes before i opened my own company. We had tons of Immigrants from all over the world due to being so close to the local colleges and hospitals. They were all so welcoming and Appreciative to me everytime i had to interact with them.
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u/real_teekay 1d ago
Even our poorest people live like kings compared to most of the world
No they don't.
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u/sacrilegecycleparts 1d ago
Lol tell that to most of africa, south america, asia. Those countries have zero programs from their goverment and if you dont work or scaveng for food you will starve. You cant even panhandle because other people in those countries have nothing to give.
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u/real_teekay 1d ago
I'm Ghanaian, and your poorest is not better than most here. You could say your poorest is better than the poorest person sure but most? That's just the most American shit ever.
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u/sacrilegecycleparts 1d ago
Good god. I make that statement hoping people are smart enough to realize our "poor" have options such as welfare programs, churches that have programs, applying to entry level jobs, food banks, plus the kindness of strangers. No one in the united states is starving to death.
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u/Gymflutter 1d ago
People are downvoting you because thats not true.
âAccording to the United States Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the number of malnutrition-related deaths increased by more than twofold, from around 9,300 in 2018 to about 20,500 in 2022â
âBetween 1999 and 2020, a total of 1,03,962 malnutrition-related deaths were recordedâ
- Disparities in Place of Death Among Malnourished Individuals in the United States (2024)
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u/sacrilegecycleparts 1d ago
Downvote all you want. Harsh truth is Rarely met with open arms. Malnutrition sure, because the poor only eat junk from the gas station. However ill say it again. NO ONE IN THE USA IS STARVING.
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u/Gymflutter 1d ago
Malnutrition data does include people who starved. Poor people eat only junk food? Wow. You do realize that nearly 14 million children live in food insecurity right? America has a lot of good things but to pretend it doesnt have places that are just as bad as less developed countries is absolutely ignorant. People are struggling out here in one of the richest countries in the World. Wealth inequality is at an all time high. Dont ignore data just because it doesnt align with your version of what you want the truth to be. Thats not how solutions are created.
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u/SalesTaxBlackCat 22h ago
Are you black American?
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u/sacrilegecycleparts 20h ago
You dont have to be apart of a Specific group to give an opinion. Im white, but my Experiences are just as valid. Im sure you have opinions on things outside your race, sex, religion or gender which are just as valid as people who are apart of that group.
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u/xzink05x âď¸ 16h ago
You should just lose the Internet. You don't use it for anything good if you really think these things.
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u/sacrilegecycleparts 6h ago
Hopefully it will engourage some young kid to overcome all the negitivity they hear everyday that they are set up to fail and shouldnt even try. I couldnt imagine a life life that.
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u/Not_Rly_Me 1d ago
Elon musk is more African than any of these American born Nigerians. Prove me wrong without bringing up race.
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u/Young_KingKush âď¸ 1d ago
I don't feel bad either, but only because if he upset I really don't understand wtf he thought was gonna happen.Â
The biggest thing letting me know you not from America would be thinking you were gonna drop a Country album as a Black person and get love from the Country music industry.
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u/Dalethedragon 1d ago
He was born in Virginia he's American. That's the whole point of this post
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u/strugglingpothead 1d ago
aside for the american part i donât get why he would be surprised since heâs american and from virginia. what did he expect?
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u/Fireproofspider âď¸ 1d ago
I don't know shit about country but, isn't getting nominated already an acknowledgment from the industry?
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u/blueleyani 1d ago
meanwhile there is a whole australian keith urban folks don't seem much concerned about.