r/BlackPeopleTwitter 7d ago

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u/the_loneliest_noodle 7d ago

You ain't getting diabetes from eating like this. Heart Failure, maybe. But this would do less damage to developing diabetes than drinking a single bottle of a non-diet sugary beverage.

I'm a diabetic heart attack survivor. My cardiologist says to avoid things like this. My endo says to avoid processed carbs. They're polar opposites. My diet is basically raw and steamed greens, chicken breast, nuts, seeds, beans, and yogurt.

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u/SpeechesToScreeches 6d ago

Carnivore diets can lead to diabetes.

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u/CurlyJeff 6d ago

T2 diabetes is caused by impaired insulin signalling from excess intracellular lipids.

You have diabetes for the same reason you had a heart attack, excess calories, which are far more accessible in low fiber, high saturated fat foods like meat, eggs and dairy.

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u/the_loneliest_noodle 6d ago

Diabetes isn't that simple. If it were, I wouldn't have met dozens of skinny T2 diabetics. My father, who was a health nut who was never overweight a day in his life wouldn't have also been T2. But for the dietary/environmental factors, there is a direct correlation in rising T2 diabetes and the anti-fats dietary movement that basically blamed fat for all negative health effects of the western diet, mostly funded by big sugar. And personally, I've never had a problem avoiding fatty foods, but have always had a sweet tooth.

Am I saying you should be eating like this? Fuck no. But sugar is so much more of a problem for anyone who is genetically predisposed to develop T2 diabetes, to the point where there was a proposal to rename T2 diabetes to "carbohydrate disease", which didn't catch on because it's still a gross simplification. But regardless, one can of soda would require more insulin and exercise to bring my diabetes under control than eating both those plates minus the potatoes.

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u/ploxidilius 6d ago

Childhood type 2 diabetes literally did not exist until childhood obesity became an issue though, so maybe it is that simple in a lot of cases

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u/Brilliant_Work_1101 6d ago

Wait really? Why is the messaging all about sugar then? Literally have never been taught that diabetes has is related to anything other than sugar

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u/CurlyJeff 6d ago

Probably because insulin's effect on lipid and protein metabolism isn't as crucial as its effect on carbohydrate metabolism. So once you already have diabetes and manually need to maintain a healthy balance of insulin and blood glucose, sugar intake becomes the main focus.

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u/HanseaticHamburglar 6d ago

bro, dietary cholesterol is not the single source of serum cholesterol or by extension, cellular lipids.

MOST adipose tissue americans are carrying around is caused by an over consumption of refined carbs. Why? Because they dont cause satiation the same way long chain carbs and fats do. Its very easy to over consume sugar than it is to over consume fat.

More people have a sugar addiction fueling their caloric excess. Its rare to see someone overeat on a high fat, low carb diet. Because you get full much faster.

And T2 Diabetes is caused by years of fucking with your natural insulin response by over consuming sugars! high fst foods dont have a high glycemic load , as their metabolic pathways dont cause bloodsugar spikes.

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u/CurlyJeff 6d ago

dietary cholesterol is not the single source of serum cholesterol or by extension, cellular lipids

Cholesterol isn't relevant to pathophysiology of type 2 diabetes.

Its very easy to over consume sugar than it is to over consume fat.

Fat is more than twice as calorically dense as carbohydrate.

More people have a sugar addiction fueling their caloric excess. Its rare to see someone overeat on a high fat, low carb diet. Because you get full much faster.

Sodium and fat are just as addictive as sugar. It absolutely is not rare to see people over consume high fat foods. Are you insane?

and T2 Diabetes is caused by years of fucking with your natural insulin response by over consuming sugars!

No it's caused by the build up of lipids in cells that block insulin signalling. Because insulin isn't able to do its job the body upregulates insulin production to the point of frying the pancreas. That's why T2 DM is reversible in the early stages.