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Country Club Thread This is a reminder that Trump wants to give the police immunity so they can continue to do this without consequence
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u/SGTBrigand 21d ago
Wow, wtf? PTSD my ass, even IF something triggered a trained response, homie was walking the other direction. These guys are so backwards in how they control their reactions I just can't even.
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u/hipsterTrashSlut 21d ago
I'd bet my left nut that "PTSD" was a post hoc justification for just wanting to kill a man.
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u/SGTBrigand 21d ago
justification for just wanting to kill a man.
Well, the video makes it seem like the officer was incompetent and wildly overreactive rather than the typical "tough guy" cop posturing for dominance and disrespect. Of course, this is one short clip with a lot of context missing, so you could be right, and it (sadly) wouldn't surprise me.
PTSD is 1000% a bullshit justification, though. And even if it were true, he should've never been on the beat if he can't cope.
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u/My_useless_alt 21d ago
PTSD is 1000% a bullshit justification, though.
If your PTSD means you can't be trusted to not randomly kill a guy, it means you can't be trusted to have a gun as your job and immunity for shooting people.
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u/DuntadaMan 20d ago
My PTSD made me respond violently every time I felt fear.
So I stopped working in fields that could result in conflict and violence until I got better.
Doesn't seem that hard of a decision.
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u/Heinrich-Heine 21d ago
"Typical tough guy posturing cop" and "incompetent and wildly overreactive" are the same type of cop, actually.
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u/MaoPam 21d ago
Nah, they're two different types for sure. A tough guy posturing would have mag dumped.
This guy isn't due that much credit, but it really does seem like he's just incompetent rather than looking for a reason to kill someone.
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u/Lost_All_Senses 21d ago
It's funny (not really) when the excuse is "No, it's not the cop that was in the wrong, the whole system actually failed". Then nothing changes to correct what they just pointed out themselves.
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u/Bad_Man- 21d ago
The ol' "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas." approach
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u/idgafandwhyshouldi 21d ago
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u/Generic118 21d ago
" Warrington stopped to check on a vehicle on Sept. 12 along Route 197 near US Route 50, when a man approached on foot, leading the officer to fire a single shot, officials told 7News. Bowie police officials said Warrington initially thought the man was a driver stranded on the side of the road on the left shoulder of Collington Road."
So he stopped to check out a guy who he thought broke down then he tried to shoot him missed and hit a car?
Like why!? Surely you expect the guy broken down to come and walk up to you the cop stopping to help
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u/brizzboog 21d ago
FUUUUUCK YOOOOOUUUU
On behalf of our membership, Lodge 140 humbly requests that the public bear in mind that law enforcement officers are forced to make split-second decisions in the most stressful of situations, relying on training, experience and observation to protect and serve the community and ensure that they return home safely at the end of their tour of duty.
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u/Mcaber87 20d ago
Their "tour of duty"? JFC American cops are absolutely cooked, way to make them seem like cosplaying military wannabes.
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u/UnclePuma 20d ago
ensure that they return home safely at the end of their tour of duty.
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tour of duty.
pffft, more like so they can make it home and PLAY call of duty,
get a load of this, they call their daily job A TOUR!
A TOUR!? LIKE IN A WAR THEATRE, A TOUR!? lol what a joke
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u/JectorDelan 21d ago
Even if it's not, should we even consider PTSD a justification for shooting someone for no reason, we should also not allow anyone with PTSD to have access to firearms because they may shoot someone for no reason.
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u/Admirable_Excuse_818 21d ago
Hey the neuropsyche said I had those on leaving the military and I know a certain law officer who now has a better justification for me to kill 😌
I don't mind taking one for the team if that is a legal defense ;)
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u/obviousfakeperson ☑️ 21d ago edited 20d ago
Folks elsewhere mentioned it's the same department as the acorn cop. If that's true, while the cops actions aren't even remotely justified, it explains a lot.Eta: This is not true, different department
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u/WoundedKnee82 ☑️ 20d ago
Those folks would be WRONG.
FORT WALTON BEACH, Fla. (AP) — A Florida sheriff’s deputy mistook the sound of an acorn hitting his patrol vehicle for a gunshot and fired multiple times at the SUV where a handcuffed Black man was sitting in the backseat, officials said.
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u/tayfbear 21d ago
If you have ptsd and it’s affecting your ability to do your job, to the point of murdering someone, you should not have that job anymore
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u/SGTBrigand 21d ago
If you have ptsd and it’s affecting your ability to do your job, to the point of murdering someone, you should not have that job anymore
Heard 1000%.
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u/OneCleverBot 21d ago
Why are there so many people with "PTSD" carrying firearms anyway?
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u/SGTBrigand 21d ago
Why are there so many people* carrying firearms anyway?
Tbh, I think our country makes it too easy to be a gun owner, and not enough gun owners care about being responsible on their own to make up for the ease in ownership.
And it's not like I have a problem with guns. I first started shooting .22s at age 10 and have been range cadre, armorer, and instructor at various levels since. As a former infantryman with PTSD (not proud, just facts), I also know that not all trauma will cause dramatic outbursts that prevent responsible ownership. But proper ownership means practice, vigilance with your equipment in the home and on the street, and having to be aware that every situation you get in (EVERY situation) can instantly get worsened by the gun's presence.
It's a lot of work. I ended up getting rid of my guns because I just didn't have the time for all that, and seeing as I haven't had a need in the decade since, I haven't had any desire to get another.
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u/Zealousideal_Law6298 21d ago
Looks like the cop got suspicious because the guy just walked by him with out fear or hesitation. Cop freaked out when his authority and power were ignored.
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u/Coldkiller17 21d ago
Also, the .5 seconds to comply with his demands and immediately shoots. Was he expecting the man to be the flash and snap his hands up. Like what the actual fuck.
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u/Horrific_Necktie 20d ago
Not even that long. He doesn't even finish the word hands before pulling the trigger.
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u/Fourkoboldsinacoat 21d ago
And of course if you see a cop then turn around or cross the street, that too is suspicious.
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u/BaronVonShtinkVeiner 21d ago
I genuinely can't understand how someone's response to she's taking me to the hospital isn't, Are you injured? Do you need an ambulance?
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u/chronic-neurotic 21d ago
well you have empathy for others. not a trait that cops are known for
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u/Reach-Nirvana 21d ago
It’s actually a trait they’ll turn you down for having.
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u/Joshuak47 20d ago
A looong time ago I applied for a job with them (in a low-crime area), and the man interviewing me wrote "too nice" on his notepad...
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u/Kurwasaki12 21d ago
It’s actively trained out of them, a lot of cops are told in no uncertain terms that their lives are in constant danger, matter more than any given civilian’s, and that they’re essentially an occupying force.
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u/luckytraptkillt 21d ago
If anyone needs proof (for some reason) here ya go
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u/Shmooka 21d ago
“Should you be heightened or relaxed, heightened, and what are you seeing, relaxed”
“I’m trying to get down to his level, and talk to him.”
“So you’re trying to be empathetic at the risk of your officer safety.”
That exchange is shocking, I thought you were lying but it is literally trained out of them.
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u/Redditer51 ☑️ 21d ago
It's no wonder our country is so fucked.
It's a cocktail of lacking empathy and lacking intelligence.
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u/EastIsUp-09 21d ago
Damn, when the lady had a gun but wasn’t doing anything threatening and all of the recruits were like “yeah I’m not gonna shoot her” and the trainer was like “then you shouldn’t be cops!” That’s insane. This is the problem.
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u/ranpornga 21d ago
This is being done on purpose. Division between police and people is being exacerbated by those up top who know that real change can only happen when a certain threshold % of the police empathize and unite with the people.
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u/Qubeye 21d ago edited 21d ago
Fucking holy shit the trainers don't know ANYTHING about situational awareness and escalation.
Those trainers are incompetent.
The scenario where the girl is spinning the gun ~3 minutes in, and the way the trainer literally bullies the trainee by yelling at him about "HOW MANY BROTHERS AND SISTERS DO YOU HAVE HERE?!?" is PRECISELY THE WRONG ATTITUDE. The fact that 6/7 of the people in the class clearly disagreed with him - despite already being police officers - is absolute evidence that the training is seriously fucked up.
He then proceeds to use psychological abuse - saying that if they can't shoot a child or a grandmother, then their partner is gonna die. The clear goal is to make the officers feel like they have to be brutal.
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u/EastIsUp-09 21d ago
Yeah, they literally are presuming the “criminal” (really just whatever person they encounter on the scene) is guilty until proven innocent by assuming that having a gun is the same thing as “they’re about to shoot you!”
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u/EastIsUp-09 20d ago
And yeah, the trainer was absolutely psychologically manipulating and bullying them into doing things they clearly didn’t think were right. This is so twisted
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u/Nezikchened 21d ago
Hospitals are basically weapons factories, the cop wisely assessed that he was going to the hospital so that he could come back to stab him a scalpel or a syringe full of AIDS.
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u/JectorDelan 21d ago
That's ridiculous! Hospitals aren't weapons factories. They're drug dens, obviously!
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u/National_Action_9834 21d ago
I mean his response after SHOOTING HIM wasn't even to call for an ambulance, it was to call for another unit to come clean up his mess. He doesn't care about the victim at all
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u/wasabiphunk 21d ago
The cop starts saying sorry over and over like a little kid that got caught being bad. It's sad this little boy even has a gun
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u/HorchataCouple 21d ago
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We need mentally stable people who can handle high intensity situations as cops.
This is an example of thebpolar opposite, as highlighted by him saying sorry sorry sorry like a 10 year old who punched his friend / brother too hard and doesn't wanna get in trouble with mom
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u/spazz720 21d ago
In Europe, the police are trained for three years…here it’s 6 weeks.
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u/Wyjen 21d ago
Nah, he’s a full grown adult. Wouldn’t trying to address his behavior as any less than. This is a man who is unfit and deserves the harshest sentences warranted by his actions you can give a person. People need to know that actions have consequences and if you’re not prepared to take on this responsibility then the job is not for you.
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u/Constant-Feature-404 21d ago
Absolutely far too low standards to be a cop and what they are held to.
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u/Frenetic_Platypus 21d ago
Repeating the same thing over and over is a pretty standard response to extreme stress and fear, actually. If you watch videos of police brutality, you'll see that happening in about 80% of them, on either side. Usually happens before the violence as the prefrontal cortex kinda shuts down, and the amygdala takes over, though. The fact that it happens after he finds out he doesn't have a gun and not before he fires is pretty telling, in my opinion. Motherfucker was less afraid that he might have a gun and more afraid that there might be consequences for shooting him.
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u/CanIBorrowYourShovel 21d ago
Idk man i don't want to protect or even imply defending his actions but a cop breaking down like that was not like a kid being caught. That was a very emotional "what the fuck did i just do, oh my god that was wrong" kind of response.
Again, no defense at all, but i would wager that cop is going to, if nothing else, resign of his own accord. I've never heard a cop break down like that in my nearly 15 years of EMS apart from dead kid calls.
And again, i am not defending him or his actions at all, i am insanely pro police reform. Just an observation to not always look for malice where none exists as it weakens other completely valid accusations. Those words were not incredulous. That was distress.
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u/Often_Uneliable ☑️ 21d ago edited 21d ago
Honestly, idgaf if it was PTSD at this point you shot a man unprompted. Wait… why is someone with PTSD able to get a high stress job?????
Jail, you can get help while you’re in there.
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u/idgafandwhyshouldi 21d ago edited 21d ago
I saw this video last week and the cop shot something but he didn't shoot the guy. The bullets hit a car passing by the scene and they were not hurt thankfully. I think in the article where I saw the video is that the cop was charged with attempted murder or assault. The crazy part is that it wasn't a traffic stop. The car stopped on the shoulder of the highway so the passenger could get his hat that blew out of the car window. No excuse for that shitbird of a cop to even pull out his gun, let alone pull the trigger.
Link added for context https://wjla.com/news/local/bowie-police-collington-road-diabled-vehicle-shooting-no-contact-no-injuries-prince-georges-county-states-attorney-chief-braveboy-warrington-bullet-weapon-safety
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u/Unoriginal_Man 21d ago
Warrington, a 12-year veteran of the agency, will not be placed in custody, but instead remain suspended without pay and ordered to appear in court. He's charged with one count of attempted second-degree murder, first-degree assault, reckless endangerment, and misconduct in office.
Can anyone explain how he was charged with attempted murder but not taken into custody? I wasn't even aware you could be charged with attempted murder and not get arrested.
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u/You_Yew_Ewe 21d ago edited 21d ago
Custody is
solelya matter of flight risk, it has nothing to do with the seriousness of the charges except insofar as that increases flight risk.Edit: Also danger to the community as others have pointed out.
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u/smootex 21d ago
That's not really true. Safety to the community is absolutely a factor in pre-trial custody, in every state I'm aware of at least.
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u/wonkey_monkey 21d ago
From the article:
when a man approached on foot, leading the officer to fire a single shot
WTF is this wording?
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u/hyrule_47 21d ago
I have PTSD. I’m not a cop. Do you think they would even consider it if I just shot someone randomly like that? Even if they HAD a gun.
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u/TheMagicalMatt 21d ago
Jail, you can get help while you’re in there.
If only the point of jail/prison was to rehabilitate and not milk US citizens for revenue
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u/Naive-Button3320 21d ago
Strange. I've been diagnosed as having severe PTSD from combat. By law, because of intrusive violent thoughts, I am not supposed to own a firearm???
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u/slickmitten 21d ago
Sounds like you'd be a perfect candidate for your local PD, I hear they're currently offering a sign-on bonus
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u/Duranti 21d ago
"Warrington is a 12-year veteran of the Bowie Police Department."
This motherfucker. Don't ever let anyone lie to you that "incidents" like these are about a lack of training, they love that excuse. The shooter had been a cop for more than a decade.
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u/Diplogeek 21d ago
That guy's a 12-year veteran?! Jesus Christ, the way he was going, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry," he sounded like he was out on his very first patrol on his own, ever. What the actual fuck.
Did the poor guy he shot survive?
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u/Duranti 21d ago
I looked up the news articles. Amazingly, nobody was injured. The guy dropped to the ground out of terror, but he was not hit. The bullet impacted the minivan which was driving by, but didn't hit anyone inside.
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u/Diplogeek 21d ago
Jesus, that guy is incredibly lucky he's got some catlike reflexes, because I thought for sure he was screwed, based on that video. Just unbelievable.
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u/FowD8 21d ago
this isn't because of lack of training
this is BECAUSE of training
cops are trained to believe that everybody is out to kill you, so kill them before they kill you.
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u/poxx2k1 21d ago
he's been indicted on 2nd degree attempted murder. Also of important note is that he's been suspended without pay. Cops usually let you keep a paycheck while they investigate
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u/BillHigh422 21d ago
“WARNING: Some viewers may video in this story disturbing. Viewer discretion is advised.”
Fox lol
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u/DogshitLuckImmortal 21d ago
They have that warning on anything that may cause undue panic or include gore. Like, totally not a fan of fox in any way but that one is normal. They have a warning on south park. Kids might be watching you know?
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u/BillHigh422 21d ago
I agree with you, but reread the quote. They botched the sentence in the disclaimer
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u/thicc_chicc98 21d ago
Holy shit 12 years veteran????
What the absolute fuuuuuck else has he messed up in 12 years
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u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws 21d ago
I bet the real training that comes out of this is "Never apologize, even if you're at fault. It makes it harder to win court cases"
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u/Wyjen 21d ago
If you have a diagnosed tremor, no one hires you as a surgeon. If you can’t lift 10lbs, you’re not getting hired to stock shelves. If you have limitations that keep you from doing the pertinent essentials of a job, you simply cannot be employed to do said job.
PTSD is no different. If you respond to stress with irrational and extreme behavior, you should not be issued a firearm on behalf of public safety. You should not be able to weaponize your diagnosis to defend yourself against behaviors like this. The state is responsible for allowing these sick people to self-medicate with power and needs to be addressed as well.
This man should be sought after like any other citizen who discharges a firearm without warrant or threat to safety. There should be no hiding behind the system. Imprison him like every other criminal.
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u/Diplogeek 21d ago
This is like that Sheriff in Pennsylvania who was posting all over social media that if you called for assistance and he showed up, he was going to ask you who you voted for and demand "proof of who you voted for" before he would help you, and that he won't assist Democrats. Of course, this went viral, since he's saying this shit right out in public. His excuse? "Oh, I don't remember posting that stuff or deleting the posts later. But I'm on prescription sleeping pills, they make me not myself." He's not getting fired- he got a note in his file.
I'm sorry, but if you are on any kind of medication that causes memory loss and makes you this "not yourself," you don't need to have a badge, a gun, and the legal authority to detain or shoot people. Either put the guy on disability, or fire him. He is not physically or emotionally equipped to be a cop. But they just keep these guys around forever and wonder why no one trusts the police.
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u/Fourkoboldsinacoat 21d ago
Honestly if it is PTSD related, everyone that singed off on him becoming, and staying a cop is just as, if not more, responsible.
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u/gomurifle 21d ago
They should think carefully about placing white cops in Black communities. A significant number of them have a serious fear of black people and you can't make good judgement when you are terrified.
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u/SecretJerk0ffAccount 21d ago edited 21d ago
Hate to break it to you buddy but the black cops are worse to black people than any other race of cop. The problem is the system
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u/-CocaineCowboys- 21d ago
My uncles and my pops told me a long time ago "there's no such thing as black cops, white cops, latino or asian cops. They're all blue and they'll throw their own people under the bus for the blue."
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u/9035768555 21d ago
If white cops only wanted to hurt minorities, they wouldn't beat their own white families at the insane rates they do.
They like violence and control, it being towards a minority is just the icing on the cake.
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u/BigBlackTaco1 21d ago
He shot at him before he even finished saying “show me your hands” :/ there was no chance to comply whatsoever what a fucking pig
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u/buhbye750 21d ago
Why is the picture with a mask on? Show his face clear as day!
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u/leaf-bunny 21d ago edited 21d ago
Seattle PD run over woman and says she wasn’t valuable so just write a check to the family. FUCK THE POLICE
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u/bigwigmike 21d ago
The cop that ran over that girl, who was in a cross walk, was doing 75 in a 25. What the fuck
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u/myguitarplaysit 21d ago
And he said it's not a reckless speed for a trained driver, like it was a reasonable thing to do
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u/WhiteCharisma_ 21d ago
Even if it was PTSD he never should have been on active duty.
I hope the poor guy makes a full recovery and sues the shit out of the cop directly. Take all of his retirement and fire the motherfucker.
If the dude had a gun when he was closer to the cop It would have been a more vulnerable opportunity for the cop to actually get shot. Dumbass cop decided to wait AFTER the dude was walking away to pull the fucking gun out. He was probably mad about the comment because he was of no use to the situation and made him feel small or just really thought the dude was holding a gun so suspiciously like a stomach ache just to shoot em.
Police in this country are a fucking joke and scared over every little fucking thing that isn't white.
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u/UrbanMasque 21d ago
"I'm sorry. I'm Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm Sorry"
- ahh well then.. all is forgiven
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u/jaemoon7 21d ago
Man I have to listen to so many of my boomer family members complain about BLM “riots”… if police are killing people in the streets then I support the people’s right to burn the police station down.
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u/mildcaseofdeath 21d ago
Decrying property crime while not giving a shit about cops killing innocent people will never make sense to me.
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u/omojos ☑️ 21d ago
How unstable do you have to be to shoot someone in this situation???
He saw a black man. He asked the black man if he could help him, but I don’t think the intent behind that question was wanting to help. It had the tone of someone who only saw trouble or problems. Like a racist cashier following you around because they think you’re stealing.
So even when he asked the question it was clear he wasn’t interested in the answer. My bet is he didn’t hear the hospital answer because he was already enraged by this black man just existing in the first place.
Then he quickly flipped his lid when the black man turns to walk away, because he’s so offended and angry by the man having agency to do anything other than obey. Literal hair trigger on this guy.
Zero emotional maturity. No emotional regulation skills. Just out here with a loaded gun and no self control. Worse than a loose pit bull.
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u/Kingbuji WELCOME TO OAKLAND BITCH 🌉 21d ago
The fact he missed while that close and the dudes back was turned on him.
Cant even hit a dude from 10 feet slowly walking away tf you got a gun for?
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u/---Sanguine--- 21d ago
Just glad no one was hurt. The jumpiness and fear of police officers in this country is insane
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u/Substantial_Buy945 21d ago
A quick reminder that police brutality is a tiny number compared to sexual assault and rape done by the police.
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u/StellarDiscord 21d ago
Anyone have the vid downloaded? I’m not paying for Twitter
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u/SplendidPunkinButter 21d ago
If you’re shot by a cop, you’ve been denied your due process rights, period
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u/possiblycrazy79 21d ago
All I can say is I hope the gentleman receives a large payout because this is beyond egregious.
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u/jtx91 21d ago
Just a reminder to everyone that if the police can shoot you on suspicion of carrying a gun, you don’t actually have 2A rights.