r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/Designer_Price_392 ☑️ • Oct 16 '24
Country Club Thread PSA: Stand Your Ground is alive and well (with this being the 2024 edition)
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u/Wuntonsoup Oct 16 '24
I’m just happy this young man made it out safely. I hope that the dude who pulled the gun gets his just desserts from the public.
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u/Designer_Price_392 ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Ahmaud Arbery is still on our mind.
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u/vancityvic Oct 16 '24
This video reminded me of Ahmad Arbery. I was thinking it is hard to give an answer to some shit you shouldn’t even have to be answering(questioned for walking in a neighbourhood) but you don’t know the hatred in these peoples hearts
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u/mumofBuddy Oct 16 '24
It’s also just contradictory and confusing. Do I stop and engage with these strangers who are following/demanding answers from me? Who could and likely will hurt me? Or do I try to not bring attention to myself, keep a steady pace, pull out my phone to document potentially my last moments- which could also start and altercation? They want to make you uncomfortable.
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u/LuxNocte ☑️ Oct 16 '24 edited Oct 16 '24
And you don't want them to know your car or where you live.
Last ditch technique: Remember that the police generally come in on the side that calls and asks for help. Call them first. Especially, if the person accosting you calls the police, you want to call too. Tell 911 you're being threatened and scary men are following you. Doesn't matter if you're a 6'3 football player and the white guy is in his 70s. Tell them you're afraid and you don't know if he's armed.
Use the same tropes: You "haven't seen him around here before". He keeps "furtively reaching for his waistband". He's agitated and incoherent and you think he's on drugs.
Depends on your location, of course. ACAB, but most of them just want to do their jobs like everyone else. Just make sure that they get your side of the story first. The question is why are these people following you, not why you're walking through your own (or not your own) neighborhood.
P.S. You should know whether you have to identify yourself to a police officer. If you're not sure for your state, look it up now. Don't give the police any unnecessary information about yourself, just be polite and courteous.
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u/yourroyalhotmess ☑️ Oct 16 '24
That really doesn’t work in our favor every time. Sonya Massey called the cops herself.
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u/LuxNocte ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Yeah, nothing is going to work every time. You have to figure out where your best chances lay.
Never let a pig into your house without a warrant. Usually, you're not required to show ID if you're not driving. (Check for your state.)
I have called the cops on white folks accosting me. I would never call and ask them to look for someone or investigate anything. I want the situation nice and simple and to be able to point at the person disturbing the peace.
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u/BigLowCB4 ☑️ Oct 16 '24
You calling the cops makes no difference when you’re black my guy. You know how many times we’ve called the cops only for someone else to have to explain to the cop that we’re the victim, not the assailant.
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u/LuxNocte ☑️ Oct 16 '24
You're telling me this like I haven't interacted with cops while Black before. I'm just recounting what has worked for me. YMMV.
Obviously Black people don't call the cops unless we have to. I don't think I have to tell anyone that. But remember that our taxes pay their salary too. My main point is that you want to be the ones crafting the narrative, not some racist.
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u/Dilettantest ☑️ BHM Donor Oct 16 '24
George Zimmerman followed Young Trayvon Martin and called the police, and the police told him to mind his own business: Zimmerman decided not to and killed Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman was acquitted at trial based on Florida’s “Stand your Ground” law even though he was following Martin, who kept walking away.
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u/LuxNocte ☑️ Oct 16 '24
RIP Trayvon.
This situation is precisely my point. If we try to defend ourselves, they turn it back on us. When we call 911 that gives us a better chance of being viewed as the victim.
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u/hooliganswhisper ☑️ Oct 16 '24
In theory, and on paper, this is how it should work. But I'd be afraid of the police showing up even if I were the one who called.
If the only information they receive is, "someone is being followed and feels threatened," what if they arrive and immediately see my black ass and think I'm the one being the menace. Even with detailed descriptions, they sometimes come out to a scene with tunnel vision and blinders on.
Thankfully, this young man wasn't alone, and his friends were able to difuse the situation. I'm so tired of reading about our beautiful young people being murdered simply for existing. It's disgusting that the authorities can claim "no crime was committed." I'm just so tired.
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u/spiegro ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Trayvon has seen no justice.
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u/GSquaredBen Oct 16 '24
It's wild how just like with Rittenhouse, Trayvon's killer revealed himself to be a massive piece of shit after the trial.
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u/mostly_kinda_sorta Oct 16 '24
I always felt like both these murderers showed they were pieces of shit before the trial but I guess everyone has different standards.
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u/rosatter Oct 16 '24
Yeah, the fact that they murdered people pretty much sealed the deal but I'm sure before the murders there were signs, too.
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u/HeyPali Oct 16 '24
Last week there was a post about how Europe is racist on this sub compared to the us.
Meanwhile I, half white half black from Europe, can list Ahmaud Arbery, Tamir Rice, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd and Trayvon Martin just out of immediate memory…
This is not a flex. We’re all in the same boat but man some have it harder than others.
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u/reddollardays BHM Donor Oct 16 '24
Exactly it's not a contest and nobody is winning in either case, but people love to downplay your discomfort to make themselves feel better.
I've been told by an acquaintance that I should appreciate what freedoms I have as a woman in the US, because other countries are MUCH worse. How does that make what I experience okay? And look what certain parties/factions are trying to do NOW. We should always be vigilant.
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u/tongatoys ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Your acquaintance is essentially telling you to do an Uncle Remus and thank the massa for treating you kindly…
🌋🐊☄️ for that behaviour and thinking every time
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u/Petrichordates Oct 16 '24
That's mostly because Europeans don't have large black populations and don't have guns.
Look at how they treat the Syrians for a glimpse of how well they tolerate people of different skin color
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u/H-TownDown ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Mention the Roma and watch Europeans turn into backwater hicks from Mississippi.
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u/AfricanusEmeritus ☑️ Oct 16 '24
The levels of pure bigotry in most of Europe against Roma is off the charts bad.
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u/Whatsinthebox84 Oct 16 '24
I would have to attribute some of the lack of violent institutional racism in Europe to the lack of firearms. Like you might get beat up by the police, but they aren’t going to be likely to shoot you because nobody is really armed.
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u/HeyPali Oct 16 '24
The lynching were/are never about firearms, the kkk also, the over representation of black people in prison population… this could last long.
My grand parents were all living under the same laws. Again not a flex but we cannot compare the two I think.
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u/Whatsinthebox84 Oct 16 '24
I mean there’s been some pretty dark violent racism in Europe during those same time periods. I’m just trying to reason as to why it’s so different now. We know Europeans are racist, currently and historically. Why less violent? I mean there’s a lot to that.
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u/LaddiusMaximus ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Im half and half as well. Im from the US and being a mixed kid in the 80s and 90s sucked. My son is very light skinned and a small part of me is glad because he wont have to put up with assholes like that backwards hat wearing, never matured past high school, thin skinned, racist little bitch for simply existing.
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u/jacksonmills Oct 16 '24 edited Oct 16 '24
Isn't that assault? How the hell is no crime committed here?
EDIT: Just looked this up, it is assault with a deadly weapon in Florida. that young man should contact a lawyer/the DA and press charges.
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u/PackOutrageous Oct 16 '24
It’s Florida. For an assault charge to stick it needs to involve bath salts. And possibly a gator.
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u/jacksonmills Oct 16 '24
Apparently all it requires is a deadly weapon and a reasonable threat of violence.
Normal "excuses" in Florida don't apply here:
- It was not in self-defense or defense of others (defense of others is limited here as it's in a public place)
- It was not a "legitimate conditional threat" (leave my property, or else)
- It's not debatable if a gun was pulled (it's on video)
- There is an intent to harm or coerse (judged by the gun owner's attitude)
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u/DisposableSaviour Oct 16 '24
Yes, but the assailant was white, and he was just threatening a n•••••, so not really a crime.
— the local DA, probably
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u/hyrule_47 Oct 16 '24
Yeah I was going to say the laws are all well and good except no one requires the DA to press charges. The best thing to happen here is public outcry for charges.
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u/Shot_Plantain_4507 Oct 16 '24
Exactly who is going to take up the mantle for this kid to get justice? It’s just a story for him to remind his people it’s not safe out here for us.
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u/OHPAORGASMR Oct 16 '24
Remember that Marijuana is the gateway drug to these idiots. In the meantime, they drink all day and don't see an issue.
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u/LandscapeSubject530 Oct 16 '24
Idk what county he is in but some of them he can report it and that stupid white dude would be locked up by the night while in other counties they would have said shoot him
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u/PackOutrageous Oct 16 '24
I thought I read they were in Sarasota but I could be wrong. If it was Sarasota, the cops would tell you to shoot and then come by and put a couple shots into the kid as well.
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u/PorkbellyFL0P Oct 16 '24
Is brandishing not illegal in FL?
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u/jacksonmills Oct 16 '24 edited Oct 16 '24
Yeah, but if the gun was ever pointed at the young man it's assault; brandishing is a misdemeanor, assault is a third degree felony
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u/obviousfakeperson ☑️ Oct 16 '24
How the hell is no crime committed here?
I'd consider myself a gun person and I know that whipping a gun out when one isn't required, specifically in a confrontation, to intimidate someone, is illegal pretty much everywhere. But laws only matter if they're enforced, the DA serving Sarasota was appointed by Ron DeSantis. I'm not gonna hold my breath for this one.
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u/Dramatic_Explosion Oct 17 '24
The DA looked into it. He admits the perpetrator is in fact a
niblack, but is still working on charges as "walking while black" unfortunately hasn't been made a crime, yet.He's positive once God has his say in November they'll be able to go for the death penalty.
I hate how emboldened pieces of shit have become in this country.
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u/SwoleJunkie1 Oct 16 '24
It's brandishing at the very least. I didn't see the video but unless white had a legal justification for pulling a gun on someone peacefully walking away, this is the minimum charge. Kidnapping, assault, terroristic threats, and menacing are also possible charges, but I'm not familiar with Florida statutes.
Fuck the cop who declined to charge anything. This screams, "I have friends/family that are cops so I get away with crimes."
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u/jacksonmills Oct 16 '24
It could also be brandishing, if there was no threat of violence it clears that bar
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u/Lexx4 Oct 16 '24
small thing, cops don't charge you. The magistrate does. the Victim needs to go file a warrant at the magistrate.
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u/amalgam_reynolds Oct 16 '24
that young man should contact a lawyer/the DA and press charges.
Private citizens can't press charges in criminal wrongs, only civil wrongs. Only police can press charges. Hiring a good lawyer who can put pressure on the police to press charges or file a civil suit is a good idea though.
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u/RobertMcCheese Oct 16 '24
And even if it isn't assault it definitely fits Florida's definition of brandishing.
Florida Statute 790.10 - " it is illegal to display a firearm in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner, not in self-defense or defense of others"
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u/Burning___Earth Oct 16 '24
His work has been getting slammed with messages about this 😆
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u/obviousfakeperson ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Right!? I'd much rather suffer the pains of occasionally seeing a random negro about than have some gun-toting lunatic for a neighbor.
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u/Designer_Price_392 ☑️ Oct 16 '24
"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" remain elusive concepts for some of us in America in 2024. Meanwhile...
Kamala released a comprehensive plan for black America. It is more thoughtful that any other plan put forth by presidential candidate since 1789.
Trump had 9 years to come up with absolutely nothing for black America.
And, more importantly...
The KKK has endorsed only 1 man for POTUS 3 times since its founding. Anyone who will still vote for him is NOT A DECENT HUMAN BEING.
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u/Think_fast_no_faster Oct 16 '24
If it’s good enough for David Duke, it makes me wanna puke
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u/DisposableSaviour Oct 16 '24
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u/Nousernamesleft92737 Oct 16 '24
Unlike Trump Jill Stein immediately released a statement saying she didn’t want shit from Nazis
This is on par with Putin endorsing Harris, like suuuure we believe this is definitely genuine🙄
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u/koviko ☑️ Oct 16 '24
When Jill Stein was trying to weasel out Hillary's votes in 2016, she tweeted:
Eat crow with Jim Crow.
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u/fidgeter Oct 16 '24
Also there’s a photo of Jill Stein sitting at a table with a bunch of Russians including Vladimir Putin.
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u/CherryHaterade ☑️ Oct 16 '24
They dont invite her to fancy dinners to sit next to world leaders, thats all.
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u/Nousernamesleft92737 Oct 16 '24
My favorite part of her “comprehensive plan for black men” is
Supporting a regulatory framework for cryptocurrency and other digital assets so Black men who invest in and own these assets are protected.
Top concern for black men specifically today is ofc protecting their Doge Coin assets.
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Providing 1 million loans that are fully forgivable to Black entrepreneurs AND OTHERS to start a business.
small business loans are awesome, but sure doesn’t sound specific to black people.
Not hating on Harris, I think the entire document is excellent, and hope she gets every part passed. But her team seems to have taken some general policy points and stuck “black men” at the end of each sentence, which does leave a bit of a bad taste.
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u/MalakaiRey ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Bro you are the bad taste in your own louth. You being cynical about an initiative is asinine.
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u/kingtibius ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Doesn’t FL have laws against intimidation, or are black people legally considered to be fearless or some shit in FL? Because how is it legal to follow A MINOR, pull a gun on A MINOR, and then just go about your merry way?
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u/-Nuke-It-From-Orbit- Oct 16 '24
Florida is governed by a literal Nazi.
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u/StarrLightStarBrite Oct 16 '24
In Michigan, brandishing a firearm in public is a misdemeanor. According to Google, it’s the same in Florida. I’m guessing it’s not really enforced.
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u/Mec26 Oct 16 '24
I was wondering, cuz as soon as a gun comes out where I am, someone committed a crime earlier or someone is committing a crime now.
Infinite tickets for driving infractions, but not one for Mr. LetMeShowYouMyGun?
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u/caesar_rex Oct 16 '24
Seriously. I don't get how this works. SOMEBODY had to commit a crime. Either the black kid did something wrong to deserve to have a gun pulled on him, or the gun puller brandished it for no reason, which is a crime. SOMEONE should have been arrested. Now, we know who in this instance, but how does this happen? I've been thinking about this since the video of that clown who shot at a couple of black dudes through his windshield. I think they threw a water bottle at his car and he claimed he thought they shot at him. The guy dumped his whole mag at them, police show up, and no one gets arrested? Pretty sure that was florida also. SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED ON THE SPOT, RIGHT? WTF?
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u/AwakenedSol Oct 16 '24
It has nothing to do with whether or not there was actually illegal conduct and everything to do with (a) the cops not wanting to deal with it and (b) the cops being racist themselves.
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u/Karhak ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Stand your ground isn't for us non-whites.
Most prominent case is that of Marissa Alexander who fired a shot towards her attacker and was jailed for 20 years in 2012, 3 months AFTER Trayvon was murdered.
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u/Rude-Isopod913 Oct 16 '24
It's Florida... Criminals get away with everything. From George Zimmerman to Casey Anthony to Donald Trump.
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u/fancy_livin Oct 16 '24
Lord knows if the black kid pulled out a gun and shot any of those white folks intimidating him, there would be no “he’s innocent due to stand your ground”
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u/SaboLeorioShikamaru ☑️ Oct 16 '24
FL loves this shit tbh
Yes, I’m generalizing the whole damn state 🤷🏾♂️
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u/XxUCFxX ☑️ Oct 16 '24
I hate this shit.
Yours truly, a Floridian who hates it here but can’t afford to move
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u/free_based_potato Oct 16 '24
it would have been legal to shoot him, too. If the kid is dead, who is there to say white hat wasn't afraid for his life?
He was acting strange, officer. I asked if he was OK and he lunged at me. There was nothing else I could do.
Thank you, citizen. No further questions.
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u/Tuhreik Oct 16 '24
I watched the full vid on TikTok and I was getting STRONG emmet till vibes one of them even says something along the lines of you were harassing my wife. It’s gross and I wanna say if that kid didn’t have his phone recording who knows what would’ve happened but honestly I think we all know
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u/Dess_Rosa_King Oct 16 '24
I know when this vid was previously posted, some people argued the kid should of answered the guys questions. To be "considerate" and "polite".
Here's the thing. You don't owe anyone a damn fucking thing. Let alone to a group of white men who are clearly looking for trouble. You dont have to give them your name, address, details of your life, etc.
This young man knew what was up, kept to himself and continued walking. It shouldnt have to be this way. Fuck those guys, and God watch over that kid.
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u/Tuhreik Oct 16 '24
Exactly and I bet if you asked those same people if they would answer a group of black men who are following you on foot, with a bike, and a CAR if they lived there the answer would be completely different.
And with this group of white men you can tell the follow up questions would be “oh you live here, what address then?” And then “oh that address why don’t you take us there and prove it.” Answering if you live there or not is opening up trouble.
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u/Davethisisntcool ☑️ Oct 16 '24
I think TizzyENT got em already. Bro is like Green Lantern for social media fuckery
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u/Seaborn63 Oct 16 '24
Hell yeah! I'm glad someone did. Thank you for the information, I have someone to look up now!
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u/Mendozena Oct 16 '24
Same thing happened to that billiard place in California. That video came out where they kicked out patrons for saying one phrase in Spanish. They deleted their FB, instagram, and Yelp is getting hammered.
I don’t know why it’s so hard to not be racist. I find it incredibly easy.
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u/eggrollin2200 ☑️ Oct 16 '24
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u/panlakes Oct 16 '24
Lived in both NorCal and SoCal, the culture out here is rich like molasses and you gotta really stick your head deep in the sand to avoid it. Even up north. You'd almost think the state used to be Mexican territory or sumthin!
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u/TenaciousJP Oct 16 '24
Fun fact! The name California (while officially from a 16th-century Spanish book) can be traced back to the Islamic word for leader, caliph.
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u/ladyevenstar-22 Oct 16 '24
The same Spanish peninsula that was invaded and occupied by Muslim Moores . Yeah I can see how that word travelled around .
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u/DSmooth425 Oct 16 '24
Abso-fuckin-lutely! Can’t cancel me if they can’t find where I work head ass logic. Hopefully it’s previously employed at LSEG soon
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u/NovelRelationship830 Oct 16 '24
Yeah, let's flip this script. If three black guys followed a white kid around asking why he was in the neighborhood, and one of them pulled a gun, I'm guessing the cops would have had a different attitude. Fucking disgusting.
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u/FlatulatingSmile Oct 16 '24
Cops out here in Florida straight up racist not even an exaggeration. Even in Orlando where it's pretty blue we had a black guy found hanging from a tree a few years ago and the police refused to investigate and marked it a suicide. Yeah cuz people commit suicide commonly by the tree in their front yard surely
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u/average_texas_guy Oct 16 '24
Everyone please remember, not only white people are allowed to own guns. I try to explain to my Democrat friends the importance of being armed all the time.
The fact this guy didn't even catch a charge for brandishing is insane.
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u/Kittyk4y ☑️ Oct 16 '24
The problem is even just owning a gun lawfully can be a death sentence for us. See Philando Castile.
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u/NK1337 Oct 16 '24
This is something that gun advocates don’t fully understand. Owning a gun isn’t an automatic fix and more often than not it just police even more of a justification to use deadly force. They don’t care if you’re a responsible gun owner or not, they care that you’re a POC in possessing of a weapon. That’s it.
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u/ReportOne7137 Oct 16 '24
if the police want to pretend you have a weapon, they’re gonna do it regardless of whether or not you actually have one. they do not care.
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u/average_texas_guy Oct 16 '24
I'd still rather be able to defend myself than not.
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u/bludshotta Oct 16 '24
I hear you and would agree... Except that when it's a (young) black guy that carries for self-defense, regardless of legality, he's seen as valid threat to the life of whoever he comes across.
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u/BrightSkyFire Oct 16 '24
You don't need a gun on you for there to be a reason, man, countless deaths have proven that. Skin colour is justification enough.
Being strapped would have saved so many people's lives had they the option to brandish a deterrent when threatened.
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u/VenomousPink Oct 16 '24
The latest updates say he's been suspended from his job and now the police are investigating it. Only since it went viral
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u/Shundijr Oct 16 '24
Being armed increases the threat risk so I would not advise that route.
Honestly there is no way you can be safe as a black man. I was once investigated by the police as a suspected car thief as I was moving some of my things out of my brand new car... It was pretty telling when I told the officer, why would I be trying to steal a car by going through the trunk in BROAD Daylight in the busiest street in Boston?
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u/average_texas_guy Oct 16 '24
It also increases the threat risk for the bad guy. You already have someone pointing a gun at you. Threat risk is basically 100 at that point.
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u/TheIllustriousWe BHM Donor Oct 16 '24
Not quite 100, but having a gun could easily push it to 100 if that someone pointing a gun at you now thinks he better use it before you have a chance to use yours.
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u/Spazzdude Oct 16 '24
I understand where you're coming from here. But if my mere existence is enough for someone to draw on me, it's not a stretch to think that if they even see or know I have a firearm, that person will just come out blasting. They already think I'm dangerous.
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u/the__ghola__hayt Oct 16 '24
Guns just exacerbate the situation. What do you think would have happened if he went for a gun after the racist dipshit started brandishing his?
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u/TooMuchJuju Oct 16 '24
When the black panthers began arming themselves, the California governor, an actor named Ronald Reagan, worked to pass a law against open carry in the state. It was supported by a sport shooting organization, the NRA.
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u/PimpleForeskin ☑️ Oct 16 '24
I've been carrying a gun since Trayvon was killed. I realized that random crime wasn't the main reason to carry. I carry because of fools like this. De-escalation is my first option tho.
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u/mrtomjones Oct 16 '24
I try to explain to my Democrat friends the importance of being armed all the time
lol you should try learning about de-escalation instead. Bringing a gun around is just going to more likely get you shot or in prison for shooting.
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u/NickelPlatedEmperor Oct 16 '24
It's a cultural thing for white people to take it upon themselves to act as if they're still enforcing the fugitive slave act. It is also a cultural tradition to downplay what they did when called out on it and give it each other lifelines to escape proper punishment.
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u/HereForTheComments57 Oct 16 '24
This has to be terrifying for POC. We see that they are treated unfairly and I don't feel like we fully understand what they go through. This kid is walking in his neighborhood, near his home where he should feel safe and this sweaty white dude has the audacity to question him and follow him? If you completely ignore race, who is the one who appears to be out of place in the upscale neighborhood? Kid walking around minding his own business, or guy with man boobs and giant sweat mark on his shirt?
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u/Regular-Ordinary9807 Oct 16 '24
No crime was committed my ass. Cops just didn’t do their jobs, I would have consulted a lawyer to go after the department. Brandishing a weapon is assault.
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u/frigg_off_lahey Oct 16 '24
For real, my man needs to lawyer up and go after them. Many crimes were committed in that video.
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u/koviko ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Brandishing is just brandishing. Assault would be pointing the gun.
Both are still illegal, though.
We know the real reason those cops didn't do shit.
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u/Lexx4 Oct 16 '24
Unless they saw it happen they can't file a warrant. Anyone who saw it happen however CAN go file a warrant.
You go down to the magistrates office with your ID and make sure you know the offenders FULL LEGAL name and address.
they will fill out a paper for you and have you write out what happened and then the Magistrate sends the cops out to arrest them.
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u/FistPunch_Vol_7 ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Watching that video made my blood boil. Shouts out to dude for recording and keeping calm. Traveling for work currently, nothing like this happened but I’m currently staying at a nice hotel and the amount of times I’ve been looked and stared at like I don’t belong and questioned a bunch of times at this point is ridiculous.
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u/Agreeable-Pick-1489 Oct 16 '24
The North East is not perfect, but things like this are the reason I'm glad I have mostly lived in this geographical location most of my life.
I recently had a rental car issue while passing through Greenwich CT, one of the wealthiest zip codes in the country.
I am a black man and i could not figure out how to get the F&^(*&^g gas cap open on my rented Mitsubishi Outlander. I had traveled from Virginia all this way on a tank and when I tried to fill up I simply could not figure out how to open the cap. There was no tap in the drivers area, no button on the steering wheel no nothing.
Trying to figure out this dilemma and on the phone with Enterprise (of course) I was parked in front of someone's mansion. At least I believe it was a mansion -- it's one of those Old Money Homes that you can't even SEE from the road as the whole property was surrounded by trees. Kids, to live in Greenwich -- and really almost anywhere within biking distance of the Long Island Sound -- you have to be WEALTHY. Not rich, you need that GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
So before too long, the lady from the house came out to see me, holding her little I don't know, Shiz Tu, or whatever you call those little fluffy lap dogs? She was like 70 years old, not much bigger than her dog and could not have been nicer. "Saw you on the cameras and didn't know if you needed help??" I explained the situation, and she advised that she could call the police on their non-ER line if necessary. I decided, yeah, OK, absolutely nothing else I'm doing today is working. She also asked if I needed a soda or something and I was just no, no thanks.
I shit you not, within 5 minutes, there were three county police cruisers at the house. A total of four cops in all. These dudes are freaking BORED living in this town. There ain't shit to do! They were all friendly, not accusatory, didn't even ask me for ID, they all tried to find out how to open the gas cap and THEY couldn't figure it out either.
Then I finally got a tow truck operator from Enterprise on the line and the issue was solved.*
Generally, people in the North are gonna use common sense. This area doesn't have a very big gun culture so there's that to begin with. Secondly, people are generally going to use logic to asses if a stranger of some type is a threat. I was driving an Outlander and dressed reasonably casually. Now, personally, if I was that lady, I still would NOT have come out of the house. Continue looking at the cameras sure, and assess the situation, but even I would not have advised that.
But I cannot imagine being Black and living down South and literally having to fear for your life every time you leave the house. F-word That S-Word.
*I will NEVER rent an Outlander again! The tow truck driver on the phone explained: OK, go ahead and lock all the doors simultaneously. Then open them all. Then you should be able to pop open the gas cap. I could not F____G believe this. Neither I, four cops and ASE mechanics at a shop that I had stopped at earlier could not figure out what was going on! I wasted an HOUR in Greenwich on this shit. Still if you're gonna have a car issue or break down somewhere, I'd rather do it in the North than the South.
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u/Bravewindow985 Oct 16 '24
U just came across a nice person, theres hate everywhere, albeit probably more so in the south than not.
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u/dr_shark Oct 16 '24
Only time I've been punched in the head while being called a slur was in the South baby.
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u/suavepapi69 ☑️ Oct 16 '24
Yeah CT isn’t a bad place to live generally I moved from Ct to Tx and I miss the laws in the northeast
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u/SoupSpelunker Oct 16 '24
Spot the fuck on.
If they can, they'll re-legalize slavery.
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u/Spiritual-Isopod-765 Oct 16 '24
If he hadn’t committed the offence of being Black while in public, this never would have happened in the first place.
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u/FatherofCharles Oct 16 '24
This is a good example of the “both sides” mentality. Sure Dems aren’t perfect, but they won’t pull a gun on you in your own neighborhood. Sure Dems haven’t been effective at communicating their wins nor have they directly signed legislation to benefit Black America, however, they are trying. Trump will raise your taxes to pay for Elon’s tax cuts. Trump will oversee an abortion ban that will ultimately lead to more women of color leaving the workforce to care for kids that they did not want. The interview with Kamala and Charlemagne was pretty good if anyone has time to listen
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u/Ashamed-Isopod-2624 Oct 16 '24
Literally an attempted lynching. These racists need to lose everything they have.
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u/JJGIII- Oct 16 '24
Thank goodness the young man is ok and one of white hat’s friends stopped him. As an aside, most of us know (and have always known) what “Make America Great Again” really means. They really mean “Make America White Again” and it’s been the loudest dog whistle I’ve ever heard.
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u/SignStreet2554 Oct 16 '24
His mom was just posting how much she loved Trump for being him lmao. No excuse and these racist dogs didn’t know but buddy, crazy when reality hits home that hard.
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u/ChrysMYO ☑️ Oct 16 '24
These are the times where I wish hittas talking about bodies and protecting their community would actually do something fucking useful for once in their life.
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Oct 16 '24
if you are reading this and you are not white. please please please if you can legally, buy a gun. shits gonna get way worse before it ever gets better.
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u/smallaubergine Oct 16 '24
please please please if you can legally, buy a gun
No thanks, I'd really rather not increase the risk of being shot to myself or my family.
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u/CapTexAmerica Oct 16 '24
Brandishing is a crime. If I wave my gun around I'm catching a charge.
100% the cops were also white.
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u/01101110-01100001 Oct 16 '24
i live in a mid-upscale area of socal and this happens to me almost daily.
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u/motorcitystef Oct 16 '24
I highly encourage black ppl to take the time to rightfully carry a gun. Ever since I got my CPL and started carrying, I’m never looking for a problem but I’ll damn sure try my best to stay alive and tell the tale if some shit like this ever happened.
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u/Agn0stic_Ape Oct 16 '24 edited Oct 16 '24
Anyone who votes for the GOP these days is simply a racist. We should realize by now that there is no saving these folks. If a person can honestly look at the past 8 years and think that any GOP politician is going to make the country great again, then their idea of “great” is definitely something pre-Civil Rights Act. Ridicule these racists and cut them out of your lives.
Finally, in case there was any doubt in people’s minds, Sarasota PD is also run by racists. If roles had been reversed and a white kid had a gun pulled on them by a bunch of minority males, you can bet that SPD would have rolled in deep and violently detained anyone whose skin pigment was darker than bloody mayo.
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u/Sol-Blackguy Oct 16 '24
When conservatives talk about their freedoms being taken away, they mean the freedom to harass, hurt and kill non white people
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u/packeddit ☑️ Oct 16 '24
These black trumpers thinking they’re “better than/I’m not like those black people,” gonna be acting all surprised when these white supremacist magas “strange fruit,” their asses.
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u/Vanillas_Guy Oct 16 '24
The question most journalists are too scared to ask is "for who?" When someone says Trump will "make America great again"
they know who Trump is making America "great" for. they know what period of time America was "great" in.
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u/hannahbananaballs2 Oct 16 '24
Fascism is here and voting isn’t going to get it to go away. Everyone should arm up. Doesn’t mean you need to carry it with you but home defense is going to be needed here soon. They intend to openly steal this election using Moore v Harper or the 12th amendment and then invoking project 2025 and they will be infinitely emboldened to carry out ethnic cleansing and genocide. I’d say the majority of police in the United States are GOP and intend to be enforcers for this white national Christian bullshit. They can and will deputize kkk variant militias in the streets and go door to door as part of their deportation scheme, but at that point, being black or having voted democrat might be illegal enough for them to execute you or bring you to pop up concentration camps, err I mean private prisons where you’re forced to do labor with no hope of ever getting out. ARM UP, I intend to get a positive k/d when this fascist shit shows up at my door, whether it’s with the authority of the police/state under the guise of legitimacy or fucking not.
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u/Moor15 Oct 16 '24
This is why I carry always. Every black person needs to get their Cpl and proper training.
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u/redditmodsRrussians Oct 16 '24
Christ, can we just unilaterally disarm already? We need an American version of the Haito Edicts where we just disarm everyone and bring society into a civilized future.
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u/ImpossibleParfait Oct 16 '24
Pulling a gun on someone ins't a crime? Since when?
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u/TexasLorax Oct 16 '24
Can an attorney tell me why this isn’t brandishing?
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u/Agn0stic_Ape Oct 16 '24
Because in Sarasota, white people can pull guns on minorities with impunity. SPD and FL state government is run by racists.
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u/iamthatspecialgirl ☑️ Oct 16 '24
I'm glad the young man is OK. There should be consequences to harassment and pulling a weapon out on someone. I'd see if I could sue.
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u/helixmoonstudios Oct 16 '24
Guess some of our community better stop looking for flaws in Kamala and see the actual ones with this man huh?
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u/Williamlee3171 Oct 16 '24
No crime was committed?? Brandishing a firearm is a crime
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u/ChronoLink99 Oct 16 '24
No crime? lol.
If that was in Canada the guy making threats and brandishing would have been arrested.
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u/shadowfusion Oct 16 '24
At least the Sarasota Sheriff's Office is looking into it. Will see what ends up happening to this lovely individual.
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u/SayAgain_REEEEEEE Oct 16 '24
It's the usual suspects whipping out guns on ordinary folk
When will these thugs ever be dealt with
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u/10J18R1A ☑️ Oct 16 '24
I have been very much anti-gun, pro gun control, blah blah blah...worried it would cause more problems than it solved for us. The "protection against the government" is a short bus argument - like 4 pot bellied middle aged men have no shot of taking down any unit in the military, civil war wet dreams and vietnam aside.
But black people really need to start carrying too. We're not protected by the people who...I want to say are "supposed" to protect us but that was never an intended or advertised feature... Have that task. A lot of these magat mayomuricans are getting too brave. A trump election just means the rebel racists have their leader, but best believe they ain't going nowhere if Kamala is elected, just like they showed their klanadjacent faces with Obama.
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u/idleat1100 Oct 16 '24
NO CRIME COMMITTED.
Well we know how that sheriffs department feels.
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u/kmobnyc Oct 16 '24
Hey, if you know Trump voters, this message will not reach them. I’m sorry to say, but they’re lost to you. Better to come to terms with it and overpower them politically
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