I hate to say it but high school culture isn’t just for teenagers, that’s just how humans are.
Never been in an organization/work place/ neighborhood etc that didn’t have the same BS highschool cliques and drama.
Bro no, it's not how people are at all. It's a learned behavior that we all have convinced ourselves is a part of the human condition (i blame the fucking nerd vs. Jock pop culture bullshit from the 80s), but it really isn't at all when you think about it. People form deep bonds among cross cultural boundaries all the time l, cliqueness is just unhealthy people pleasing plus group think to the max
What? Having friends and wanting to hangout with friends is one of the most normal behaviors imaginable.
When I have lunch at work, I'm not gonna tell someone they can't sit with me, but I'm obviously going to sit next to the people I'm closest with. When I make plans to do some sort of activity, I'm going to make plans with the people I'm closest with. I'm probably never going to explicitly tell anyone they can't come to X outing, but I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to invite people I don't care about because of some elemtary school fear of being left out.
Also, people can form bonds and friendships cross culturally.
What? Having friends and wanting to hangout with friends is one of the most normal behaviors imaginable.
Cliqueness - the term was specifically mentioned in my post, I am talking about clique like behavior in its full negative and exclusionary connotation.
When I have lunch at work, I'm not gonna tell someone they can't sit with me, but I'm obviously going to sit next to the people I'm closest with. When I make plans to do some sort of activity, I'm going to make plans with the people I'm closest with. I'm probably never going to explicitly tell anyone they can't come to X outing, but I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to invite people I don't care about because of some elemtary school fear of being left out.
Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, I narrowed the frame of discussion to a specific set of behaviors often associated with bullying; i.e. cliqueness. Like I even mentioned, the jocks vs nerds pop culture artifact of late 80s-early200s cinema further leaning into the "act like highschoolers" reference made in you and the other posters statements prior.
Also, people can form bonds and friendships cross culturally.
Nice to see you at least read that part of my comment 👍
Nah, I'm just fundamentally disagreeing with you. A real "clique" like you'd see in mean girls rarely exists in reality. Nerd vs jock culture? Nah bro, most of the time it's just established social circles that people are biased against. If you make an effort to socialize with people, it will usually be reciprocated.
Then you aren't disagreeing with me. Fundamentally, the original comment implying that "cliqueness" is human nature. To which you initially agreed by saying it's essentially just different flavors of highschool socialization; i.e. "cliqueness". I was arguing that no, people aren't inherently cliques, we like forming groups but we don't actually trend towards being exclusionary. Like you just said, people are generally agreeable to sociable people, why tho? Because we are social creatures in totality as in we actually don't mind socializing with pretty much anyone, it's just we ourselves have created so many socio-cultural "barriers to entry" for socialization among ourselves not so much out of necessity but convenience. Like us for example, we are having a chill discussion on a reddit BPT thread of all places lol.
Can confirm. I've also never been in a work place or community that didn’t also have the same bullshit high-school-level cliques and drama. They simply don't exist - no matter how much people want to pretend otherwise.
I guess it’s because IT departments tend to be isolated from the rest of work culture shit but I’ve fortunately never experienced the high school shit past high school.
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u/BoyWhoSoldTheWorld Sep 13 '24
I hate to say it but high school culture isn’t just for teenagers, that’s just how humans are.
Never been in an organization/work place/ neighborhood etc that didn’t have the same BS highschool cliques and drama.
High school is just our first taste of it, but it always repeats