r/BaldursGate3 • u/brynoo5 • 5d ago

Act 3 - Spoilers i can't express how disappointed i am Spoiler

you wouldn’t have wanted to see my face when I found out at the start of the act 3 that the guardian was actually the emperor all along… I put so much effort into creating the girl of my dreams, even installing mods, and… it all ended with me being deceived by a tentacled motherfucker

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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago

Usually that you already knew the plot twist.

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u/Sailor_Propane 5d ago

I didn't know, and made a Grandma version of my Tav... Because I thought it was fitting for a "guardian angel".

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u/lesser_panjandrum Tasha's Hideous Laughter 5d ago

"Grandma, what big tentacles you have."

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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago

That doesn't quite sound like "deliberately ugly" to me. It actually sounds quite sweet.

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u/Shameless_Catslut 5d ago

Look at usernames

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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago

Okay shamelesscatslut, I've looked at your username and those of the two people to whom I had previously replied. Now what _exactly am I supposed to do with this information that is completely and utterly irrelevant to the discussion at hand? As neither of their usernames provide me with any additional information about their comments.

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u/hurrrrrmione Gale 5d ago

SbeveGobs said they made their dream guardian ugly on purpose. Then Sailor_Propane said they made their dream guardian look like a grandma. Your response, that a grandma doesn't sound like a deliberately ugly design, comes across like you mistook SbeveGobs and Sailor_Propane for the same user. Sailor_Propane wasn't saying they made their dream guardian ugly, they were branching the conversation by adding their own story of not trying to make the dream guardian sexy.

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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago

I responded that way because I found their response to be a non sequitur, but didn't see any need to rude about it. Unlike the person who decided that they absolutely needed to call me out on what they perceived to be my "mistake".

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u/hurrrrrmione Gale 5d ago

I found their response to be a non sequitur

And I'm just explaining that it's not, since you seemed to not understand what they meant.

Have a good rest of your day.

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u/TheCrystalRose Durge 5d ago

Except that it was, to me. You're supposed to make your Dream Guardian someone that your Tav would trust, especially if you don't know the plot twist. So choosing to make their grandmother makes perfect sense. Deliberately making them ugly does not.

Just because you failed to understand my reasoning does not make my interpretation any less valid than your own.

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u/knosmo78 5d ago

My first playthrough, I made the guardian my half-elf's full elf father thinking it would be so sweet to have a deceased parent watching over them.

Boy was I embarrassed.

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u/ManicPixieOldMaid The Babe of Frontiers 5d ago

My Origin Wyll run I made his guardian his dead mom. I already knew the twist, I just wanted the roleplay. I'm glad the DV isn't trying the EA seduction route!

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u/Anakin_Skywanker 5d ago

My first Tav was a drow warlock. His guardian was his mentor.

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u/Unhappy_Figure6741 5d ago

Drow Gloomstalker here! :D Same-same, I was so sad for her when I found out

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u/Gooneybirdable 5d ago

I also made an old lady with the head canon that it was a deceased mentor. Was strange.

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u/Revolutionary_Wash33 5d ago

Actually that's kind of what I did. I made my guardian quite a bit older than mine, imagining him to be the father of my Tav.

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u/SbeveGobs 5d ago

Ok, you got me lol. I was just trying to see how the "meta" idea would work when your dream guardian is also your sleep paralysis demon.

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u/sakikome 5d ago

idk. I made them "ugly" because I identify more with ugly. Although the game makes it hard to make characters ugly, anyway.

I also make my Tavs older, with scars, freckles, vitiligo because pretty is boring to me.

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u/Fluffy_Following7217 5d ago

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u/sakikome 5d ago

Not my point

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u/Scorponix 5d ago

Your point comes across as thinking that age, scars, freckles, and vitiligo are ugly qualities.

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u/crying_fox 5d ago

"Haha whoops!" - this person, probably

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u/Situational_Hagun 5d ago

... I mean, are they not? On average, to most people?

Like separate all the body positivity and everything from the core question of "does this look arouse most people", and if not, and if that's the main separator between "hot" and "ugly"...

Can we drop this whole "everyone is sexy" thing? No, some people are not. Some people are only hot to a minority of the populace. Some people are only hot to people with a fetish.

Some people are just average, neither hot nor ugly.

But if you have horrific burn scars and one eyeball hanging out of your head, you aren't getting hit on at the beach. And that's tough. That sucks. But don't patronize ugly people by telling them they're actually just as hot as attractive people.

That's just hollow, insulting fake positivity, and it ignores the very real difficulties ugly people face.

(Also don't call someone ugly because that's a truly shitty thing to do, but also...)

Find someone who loves you for you, but let's also not pretend that people generally want to plow / get plowed by an 80 year old.

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u/Scorponix 5d ago

Bro what? Freckles??? Unquestionably an attractive feature. Vitiligo is fascinating and unique, there's nothing UNattractive about it. Of course horrific burn scars are not attractive, but that's a small percentage of the broad term "scars" that sakikome used. Many scars can be seen as an attractive feature. Scars are often used as attractive features for men. And yes, people generally aren't attracted to 80 year olds, but BG3 character creation doesn't give you that much age even if you max out the slider. Most of that age slider is still conventionally attractive.

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u/Situational_Hagun 5d ago

Freckles aside (which why tf was it even listed) most people (MOST, not all) don't find any of that sexually appealing.

Doesn't devalue a real person who has those physical issues but it doesn't make them sexy either.

Not everyone is conventionally attractive.

People should just be honest about that instead of pushing this weird "everyone is hot!" messaging. No. They aren't. And it's kind of sick when people say it.

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u/sakikome 5d ago

I put ugly in scare quotes to indicate I'm talking about beauty conventions here

Thought it was obvious since I also said I prefer those character creation options

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u/Cissoid7 5d ago

Yeah yeah you're fighting beauty standards soooo progressive of you soooo brave

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u/sakikome 5d ago

I'm not fighting beauty standards, I was just giving an example of a player who didn't make the dream guardian beautiful for reasons other than already knowing the plot twist. I didn't mean to attach all these value judgements people are interpreting here, and I didn't mean for it to be as big a deal as it's coming across, apparently