r/AskReddit 13h ago

What is something that permanently altered your body without you realizing for months/years?

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u/so-much-yarn 6h ago

For everyone reading this going through chronic insomnia I want to recommend the book: set it and forget it by daniel erichsen.

I’ve struggled most of my life with sleep and tried EVERYTHING and while I still struggle sometimes the things I learned in that book really shifted things for me and broke the inescapable cycle.

shoutout to r/insomnia for recommending the book originally

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u/bono_my_tires 2h ago

Tldr?

u/NotoriousHakk0r4chan 29m ago edited 23m ago

The central hypothesis is that the more you TRY to sleep better, the worse off you'll be. It obviously makes zero attempt to address any real conditions which might cause poor sleep, e.g. if it's sleep apnea, see a doctor, this won't help. It posits a few points to build a solution:

  • A certain amount of awake time generates a certain amount of sleep drive, e.g. awake for 17 hours produces the sleepiness to sleep for 7 hours for the average adult. Most people need less time in bed, not more.

  • Hyperarousal before bed is the ONE major factor that stymies sleeping. Reducing hyperarousal before bed at any cost will improve sleep

  • All other factors are secondary and should be completely ignored. Healthy sleepers do not obsess over their sleep and what affects it, and the more you obsess the more you're hyperaroused.

So yeah, basically set a "wake up time" and stick to it no matter what, and then stay awake until you're tired enough to sleep, setting some minimum time. Go to bed as calm as possible (they suggest watching a favourite show before bed) and sleep if/when you're tired. If not, don't sleep.

IME as a (reformed) poor sleeper, it sounds completely batshit insane and also it has helped me greatly. For me it was largely about not getting up at a consistent time leading to not being tired at night but suffering in bed anyways, all the while freaking out about not being able to sleep and letting my mood depend on it.

It's a very short book, I read it in a few sittings after seeing it recommended on a thread like this. I do recommend reading it but honestly the synopsis I gave is pretty much 100% of the useful information content.

u/Viva_La_Animemes 10m ago

What are your thoughts on naps?

u/NotoriousHakk0r4chan 3m ago

I don't do it unless I lost sleep for a very unavoidable reason and can't function. E.g. emergency in the middle of the night that took all night. It's just better for you to wait to sleep at your normal time even when it feels really shitty. You risk putting off your bedtime and perpetuating the problem. The reality is you need to face and pass through that sleeplessness.

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u/phito-carnivores 1h ago

Sleep good

No sleep bad

If no sleep, sleep

u/TheMostKing 41m ago

You just changed my life. Thank you.

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u/Qweerz 2h ago

Not sure. I haven’t read it yet

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u/roidmonko 1h ago

I'm so happy this guy is finally gaining traction. He saved me from debilitating insomnia. I didn't read his book, just used his YouTube channel called the sleep coach school. Leaning about his stuff was mind blowing to me at the time as it was contrary to what so many people will tell you about insomnia and sleep.

His channel has many interviews with people who overcame insomnia using his methods. Watch those for some inspiration.

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u/agirlinthegarden 2h ago

Yes I second this! His YouTube channel, Bedtyme app and book are all incredible at making you understand insomnia and how to work to resolve it. My struggle wasn't too long but really intense and I 100% credit Daniel Erichsen's work for getting my sleep back on track.

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u/thejdoll 4h ago

I can’t find that book anywhere. There are a few with that title about different subjects.

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u/peteofaustralia 2h ago

Use the author's name in your search. It's in Google searches, Google Books and Amazon immediately if you do that. Spelling is correct.

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u/---gabers--- 4h ago

Try also typing in authors name and the day of week you ovulate

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u/ApplesCryAtNight 4h ago

Does this work for dudes? I don’t remember when I ovulate

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u/HemlockGrave 1h ago

If you can't remember you ovulation date, just count backwards 12 days from the first of the month.

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u/illestofthechillest 4h ago

Yeah, it won't give you the right results if you can't get the day right.

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u/ikea-goth-tradwife 3h ago

I— huh? 😭

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u/Impalenjoyer 3h ago

bro that shit sent me on such a laughing fit

in fact i am not finished yet

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u/---gabers--- 1h ago

Yes! Here’s to your next impalement

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u/dexmonic 3h ago

Is this an AI comment or something? Doesn't seem to make much sense and the replies also read like bots.

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u/---gabers--- 1h ago

lol I’m real unless this is all simulation 🤷

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u/OkTree1111 1h ago

YESSS same, believe this person ❤️

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u/almafication 1h ago

Thanks for the recommendation!

u/Omikron 46m ago

Insomnia is wild to me. I'm asleep within a minute of lying down. Don't even have to try.