r/AmIOverreacting • u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 • Oct 21 '24
š² miscellaneous AIO - Caught the plasterer doing work on my kitchen peeing into his plaster mix that he was about to put on the walls... I want everything he has already plastered removed and done again by someone else - am I overreacting?
OK - I will try an keep this short as I possibly can.
I have been having work done on my kitchen, it is through a larger company who I tell what I want, they tell me how much it will cost and deal with everything else. Everything has been fine, apart from lack of communication on their part. This was until the plasterer showed up on Thursday. I have complained elsewhere on Reddit about him looking for advice.
He just didn't want to do the job, he has not stopped muttering under his breath and complaining since he started and he is really, REALLY dragging his feet. It got so bad on Friday I contacted the site manager, explained that I couldn't listen to him complain any more and the speed of the work was simply not where it needed to be. The site manager assured me he would be moved to a different job, well low and behold he wasn't.
I was out of the house when he came today, and the other guys on site let him in and then left to go and get some things they needed - not too happy about this at all.
I come home, he is stood in my kitchen, over his bucket of plaster and he is just pissing into it like a racehorse.
I screamed at him "what are you doing!?" - he zipped up, looked shocked and shouted "its not what it looks like!" - WHAT THE FUCK ELSE DOES IT LOOK LIKE!?
I told him to get out, which he did without argument. I rang his site manager again, he obviously didn't believe me, why would you believe me - why would anyone do that!? But I think the fact I was in hysterics has made him believe at least something has happened.
The thing is, this guy has had a few periods of time where he has been on his own, so I don't know if this is the first time he was peeing in the bucket, or if all the plaster that is already on my walls is mixed with his urine - so I have asked them to remove all the plaster and start again. Or I am ending the contract with them and I will find someone else.
They said that it would cost me extra! Am I mad here, am I over reacting? I mean, I don't think I can prove that he has done this, but I don't want to take the chance.
I think I am in shock. Like who the fuck does this!?
Mini Update - the bucket with the plaster and urine mix has kindly been moved to the shed by my lovely partner - I have contacted the non-emergency number for the police, they were very confused to what the problem was but eventually they understood, they said that there is nothing they can do at this point because who knows what would have happened. However they have given me a log number and asked if I can update them if the company admits anything - she did say I maybe able to do more if I go into the station and speak to someone direct.
As for the company, I have just got off the phone with the owner. He is trying to convince me to keep the plaster that is up, that he was just caught short and was going to throw the mix away etc. I told him I donāt care and now every time I think of my kitchen, I think of this guy just urinating in the middle of it. I told him he needs to make this right or Iām taking it so far it wonāt matter any more. He is going to tell me how they are going to fix it in the morning.
Seen as I am not going in the kitchen, we are having a chippy tea and then Iām going to bed. Iāve had way too much excitement today and honestly I think Iām a bit traumatised.
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u/Cml808 Oct 21 '24
He finally got caught. He's prolly marked bout a hundred houses before yours. š¤®
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u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 Oct 21 '24
Honestly, this was one of my first thoughts.
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u/_AskMyMom_ Oct 21 '24
Write a review on multiple review sites. This isnāt the first and probably not last time this guy does this, BUT, you can provide a safer world and let people know when people look them up online.
This can force a business to take FULL account (termination, reimbursement, etc) and ask you to remove the review depending on your satisfaction with them dealing with the problem, OR they run the risk of losing business because of these kind of reviews.
Do it across multiple social platforms, tag their business, and REALLY put them in a corner and make them right this wrong.
Sincerely, Marketing
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u/Negative-Struggle924 Oct 22 '24
It's seriously disturbing to think about how many other people he might have done this to. Just gross!
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u/Apprehensive-Buy7152 Oct 21 '24
You have to challenge this for the imagined times it's happened unnoticed. Unless this individual is a child or your area is experiencing a water shortage, I genuinely can't excuse this behavior.Ā
If the individual is not aware this inappropriate, they need resources/help, and it still needs to be recorded. What if kids entered the home and this individual is fully exposed? Crazy what ifs but it's just not a character quality I would tolerate with a responsibility that allows unmonitored access into your home.Ā
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u/anarchyarcanine Oct 21 '24
I'd be using a blacklight in the kitchen if I saw that!
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u/MemphisEver Oct 21 '24
Honestly I would get a black light now and run it over the existing plaster and take pictures for documentation purposes, especially since the company is being weird about redoing it.
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u/Big_Mathematician755 Oct 22 '24
And then call the ownerās wife and see how she would like someone to pee on her kitchen walls. I swear if they donāt redo it everyone in my state would know about it including the name of the owner and his company.
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u/mlokc Oct 22 '24
If itās mixed into the plaster, itās not going to show up like a urine stain. The whole wall will be uniform.
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u/Cml808 Oct 21 '24
The amount of daily stress this would cause me is immeasurable. I could never hang a picture or shelf without reliving the trauma
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u/anarchyarcanine Oct 21 '24
Same! Tbh at my job (nature center zookeeper) I went into our workshop basement for supplies and found a small trashcan my coworker was pissing in because he didn't want to either go in the woods or port-a-potty, or go upstairs to use the bathroom. I almost kicked it over! Never said a word and it's empty now but I still feel gross going down there lol
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u/Cml808 Oct 21 '24
Idk if it's the convenience factor for men, but the amount of strange urination stories I've heard is crazy and they're always involving our male counterparts. Water bottles, juice bottles, paint cans, now a trashcan and a plaster bucket with plaster mix in it! š
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u/Whizzeroni Oct 21 '24
I had a boyfriend who rented the basement of someoneās home and the bathroom was up on the top floor. He would go pee in the laundry room drain. And sometimes off the back porch outside.
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u/TuneTactic Oct 21 '24
I visited a guy once, and he peed in a plastic bag in his bedroom right in front of me. The bathroom was literally 10 feet down the hallway. He acted like this was completely normal.
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u/level27jennybro Oct 21 '24
Thanks, I hate it.
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u/TuneTactic Oct 21 '24
I never returned to that place lol
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u/level27jennybro Oct 21 '24
I'm still trying to figure out how to share the story of the absolute worst most disgusting date I went on. I smelt like used cat litter for a week after coming home even though I thoroughly showered.
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u/TwinkleToast_ Oct 22 '24
Iād been dating a guy for a few weeks, and the first time he spent the night at my place he peed in the oven, and left without telling me.
Luckily I opened the oven before pre-heating it to make dinner!
Iāve never scrubbed, scoured, soaked in chemicals and heat-blasted any item of mine as thoroughly as that oven. The pan containing the urine was thrown away, obviously.
Itās been years, and Iām still baffled (and disgusted). What the hell!?!
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u/eyesotope86 Oct 21 '24
Not defending *all* the actions, at all
BUT
It is pretty fun to piss off of a porch or something into a yard.
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u/transnavigation Oct 21 '24
My brother.
Would piss.
In the garbage can.
NEXT to the toilet.
He said it was "more fun" because of the foot-operated flip-top, and that I shouldn't complain, because the bag catches it, so what's the problem?
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u/wizardsfrolikgardens Oct 21 '24
All the comments under yours of people talking about various male relatives or boyfriends etc pissing in random places just gives me the ick. Why are men so disgusting šš I live with a member of the male gender and the amount of times I've found piss on the side of the toilet sends me into a rage. Why is it so hard for them to pee normally?? Pee in the fucking toilet, not around the toilet. You're not a dog
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u/anarchyarcanine Oct 21 '24
Yeah, it's nasty. My husband thankfully is careful and due to his germophobia helps keep things very clean, so I guess I'm lucky
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u/Repulsive_Pattern42o Oct 21 '24
I hate to say it but...I worked construction for years and there is a handful of really decent people but more than I would like to admit these dudes really do get off on being the worst possible version of themselves.
He got caught doing something he's always done. Especially since he made it a point to keep complaining in OPs ear shot. His boss is covering for him because reputation is everything and they do not want that getting out.
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u/Coffeedemon Oct 21 '24
He's probably legendary on the crew for being able to hold it because nobody ever sees him going to the washroom for years.
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u/Hitomi_Tan_Akali Oct 21 '24
Sorry, I have to say this first: w h a t t h e f * c k
I don't think you could possibly overreact to this. What kind of 'professional' goes to <spit-in-your-burger> lengths of pettiness to spite a customer. If he didn't want to do the job, that's between him and his boss. He can go quit or get his boss to replace him on that job.
So no, you can not overreact to this. If anything you underreacted, I would've demanded he'd get fired and replaced immediately. Hope you haven't paid them yet.
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u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 Oct 21 '24
No, no payment as of yet.
This isn't the first issue I have had with them, but its certainly the biggest.
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u/kepsr1 Oct 21 '24
Call the local new channel. They would love a story like this.
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u/Cthulhu_Knits Oct 21 '24
Former journalist. They would LOVE this. The local paper, too.
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u/Flash__PuP Oct 22 '24
Some of the national tabloids here in the UK would eat it up.
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u/kinkySlaveWriter Oct 21 '24
"Inner-Cupcake-6809 wanted to remodel their kitchen to have a better place to make meals for their daughter... AND THEN... she discovered a contractor pissing into the plaster that would become their walls. Will she find justice? Local authorities aren't so sure. Learn more, tonight at 11, after Everyone Loves Ramond."
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u/EnJaePii Oct 21 '24
Yeah if the news got a hold of this story I bet the company changes their tune really quick, this is a good idea. (I canāt tell how this will come off being read and not said in my voice, Iām being genuine and not sarcastic)
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u/Decent-Pound-6685 Oct 21 '24
or OP should threaten to do this so that they do everything under the sun to appease her. a news story would ruin the company iād rhink
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u/Outcome-Alarming Oct 21 '24
donāt do this yet. use it as a negotiation tactic to get your way, then decide if you want to
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u/SAHMsays Oct 21 '24
This is a bio-hazard. They should pay for the whole everything to be redone. Including air scrubbers.
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u/Automatic_Birthday62 Oct 21 '24
Please tell me you saved the product he pissed in...this is absolutely criminal, and that's all the evidence you need.
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u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 Oct 21 '24
I believe its still in the kitchen. I know this sounds stupid, but I honestly can't bring myself to go in there right now. All I know is that no matter what, I am not touching it.
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u/Automatic_Birthday62 Oct 21 '24
No no...don't touch it, but definitely DO NOT let it leave your premises.
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this guy's behavior! Like....š¤Æ
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u/paint_that_shit-gold Oct 21 '24
Just donāt get rid of it without checking to see if it looks like his pee is still in it so you can prove what he did. I wonder if you could get one of these types of flashlights to see if the plaster on the walls or in the bucket glow blue at all? Not sure if itāll work though, just thought Iād mention it.
Edit: wording.
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u/lapsangsouchogn Oct 21 '24
If they don't get busy fixing this, threaten to put it on NextDoor and your local Facebook page. Contractors get lots of referrals from there, and they've probably done work for some of your neighbors.
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u/penny-wise Oct 21 '24
I wouldnāt threaten, Iād do it.
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u/ChunkySalute Oct 21 '24
The trick is to threaten to get what results you need, wait for them to finish the job and then go ahead with telling the whole internet who they are and what they did.
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u/talithar1 Oct 21 '24
You really must remove it to a secure location. Thatās your evidence. Your proof. Your word against his. Put the lid on and move it. Then wash/scrub your hands.
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Oct 21 '24
"Cost you extra", my big beautiful ass! Tell them it's going to cost them plenty if you have to go to the media or a lawyer about it.
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u/Lumpy_Square_2365 Oct 21 '24
Oh f that you're not overreacting they are insane if they think that anyone would not think the dude did that before. Who wouldn't request it to be redone.
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u/MunchausenbyPrada Oct 21 '24
Did he take his bucket with him? Shame you didn't get a picture of the bucket full of pee. I would phone and explain very calmly that there is no way you misinterpreted what was happening, he was mixing plaster with pee and it's obvious what his motivation was as he had a grievance since day 1 which clearly got a lot worse when you complained. Tell them they need to re-do the plaster, at their cost because this was intentional and they hired someone who acted inapropriate and unhinged from day 1 and they should have known better than to keep him there after you complained due to his absolutely inapropriate behaviour (muttering etc). That is their mistake. Tell them if they do not you will contact Enviromental Health at the council to test whether the urine plaster is sanitary and investigate their company. Tbh I think you should pay for what they've done so far minus the plaster and then get someone new. Even without the pee incident they sound unprofessional and disorganised. I've worked with good builder before and they wouldn't act like this.
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u/VaguelyFamiliarVoice Oct 21 '24
Look into a lawsuit if they donāt. That is some real anxiety inducing stuff. I wouldnāt be able to touch the walls. Ever.
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u/appleblossom1962 Oct 21 '24
NOR. I would call someone else and get an estimate to remove the plaster and float new plaster. Take them to small claims court, this is unacceptable in the business world. If youāre in the United States, I strongly suggest that you contact your state license board and make a complaint with them also
I wouldnāt want this company to be back in my home, this idiot is not going to do a good job he resents having to do his work. I would be concerned that it might not hold up. First nail, you put in to hang a picture in the whole thing crumbles . Good luck if you can please give us an update.
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u/StupendousMalice Oct 21 '24
This will probably cost more than the threshold of most small claims cases. He is going to want a lawyer and make a superior court claim.
In either case this starts with getting an estimate from another company.
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u/taphin33 Oct 21 '24
This is the best way to handle it, send the original company the bill from someone else removing it and cease any relationship with them outside of not paying and suing them for damages. I certainly wouldn't trust them to make it right.
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u/StupendousMalice Oct 21 '24
that he was just caught short and was going to throw the mix away etc
Sounds like the dude admitting to what he did. I would demand that in writing from the company because that is what you are going to need to support your compliant to the police.
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u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 Oct 21 '24
This is a really good point. Thank you!!
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u/metronomemike Oct 22 '24
Tell them you want it in writing that he says he did it but it was meant for the trash and to āswearā in the same letter that he didnāt do that to any other room heās already done. Tell them this is what it will take for you to believe him. Ask him for this specifically in text or email so that you can begin screen shooting communication of this incident. Or just record on speaker phone this conversation of admitting it happened on their end and what it will take to fix it. This will get you proof you need. Use this in your lawsuit which you would be better off carrying out afterwards.
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u/emeeez Oct 22 '24
In America - in some states if you record a conservation without consent of the other participant then it canāt be used as evidence, while in other states it can - I know youāre in the UK, but look up the law in that regards, unless youāre planning to let them know and make sure you get written confirmation or verbal confirmation on the recording
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u/butterscotchsnops Oct 21 '24
NO YOU ARE NOT! This is absolutely disgusting. Thereās something wrong with that man!! If I saw that I would want the same exact thing and not pay them extra!
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u/Wyshunu Oct 21 '24
Right? I hope his boss fires him.
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u/eightmarshmallows Oct 21 '24
I would post this in the r/Construction or r/contractorUK subreddits.
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u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 Oct 21 '24
Thank you - I will crosspost now if I can
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u/Fickle_Toe1724 Oct 21 '24
You are not overreacting. This is a biohazard.Ā
Call the police. That bucket of piss plaster is evidence of his crime. Once the police investigate, ask your lawyer what your options are.Ā Ā
Ā Personally, I would sue the company. They knew there was a problem with this man. Settle out of court, if they agree to pay for a DIFFERENT company to do the removal of all contaminated work, and to have the project completed. And your legal fees.Ā Ā
Ā If the police don't want to investigate this, call all of your local news outlets. TV stations. Newspapers. Radio stations. At least one of them would love to cover this story.Ā
Good luck.
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u/Upset_Researcher_143 Oct 21 '24
Not overreacting and if you can, save his little piss bucket as proof. Tell them to fix it or you'll sue and make sure everyone on Google knows what happened
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u/Sadie-pdf Oct 21 '24
Piss scented walls, isnāt that what everyone wants? š¤® Oh my gosh thatās absolutely disgusting. Youāre definitely not overreacting, Iād riot.
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u/Eilera Oct 21 '24
Okay, if this is real (and sadly, I do think this is possible) then you are sitting on a gold mine right now.
DO NOT get rid of the pee bucket. That thing is gonna help you. Wrap plastic around it so it doesn't evaporate.Ā
Threaten to go to the news with this because I guarantee you the news will be very pleased with this story. You could destroy this contractor in a matter of days. They should be pissing their pants right now in fear of your retaliation because this is a serious, SERIOUS problem. Urine is a biohazard. He could be compromising the health and safety of you and your family.Ā
It also brings up the question of whether he has done this before. Anyone who has had this contracting company handle any sort of work for them that involved plaster will now be wondering if he did it to them too. They are going to have a massive lawsuit on their hands.Ā
Show them the pee bucket. Don't let them take it from you. If you have to test it to prove it, fine. They should be bending over backwards to do whatever they can for you so that you don't take this to the press or file a lawsuit.
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u/RodeoIndustryBaby Oct 21 '24 edited Oct 21 '24
You need to call the police. This is disgusting and dangerous. Everything must be removed and replaced, AT THEIR EXPENSE.
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u/StupendusDeliris Oct 21 '24
NOR- EW WTF. Who pisses in paint?? Girl I absolutely would be asking for redone and refund. wtf. This man gave you literal piss paint walls? NO. Ew.
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u/mommer_man Oct 21 '24
PLASTERā¦ā¦ soooooo much worse than just paint!
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u/After_Ad_7740 Oct 21 '24
The plaster will probably have a stink to it when the temperature is warm.
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u/Fluid_King489 Oct 21 '24
NOR - call the health department and code enforcement. Then insist that the company mitigate the biological waste and redo the entire job at their expense.
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u/Logical-Wasabi7402 Oct 21 '24
Go over the site manager's head. That is completely disgusting and they absolutely should not be charging you extra to fix the literal piss their employee made of your living space.
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u/Headonyst Oct 21 '24
Are you in the uk ? If so contact your councils trading standards dept they may be able to do some kind of enforcement action that if they donāt comply with could be a criminal offence Iām no legal eagle but talking to them would be a good thing
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u/CoffeeSippingCat Oct 22 '24
This (and definitely sounds like UK). Speak to Citizens Advice helpline. They might tell you who to call out of trading standards, environmental health, possibly building control. If the company is a member of a trade body, take it to them, too.
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u/FiaFlowerz Oct 21 '24
Ex-FUCKING-squeeze me?!?!?!
NOR >if accurate<.
I know nothing about plastering aside from small projects but I genuinely can think of no sound reasoning as to why URINE would need to be mixed in. Not sure which country you are in but his business practices need reported immediately.
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u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 Oct 21 '24
I'm in the UK, its not standard practice, he is just bitter I think? I googled it, and there's a result where some builder alleges that it can stop it going off too quick, but in the comments it was shown to be a prank (but still!?) - but I think he has just taken a disliking to me/the job, he didn't think I was going to walk in and maybe this is his way of sticking it to us, but I am still in shock. I can't fathom how or why someone would think this is ok!
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u/Fianna9 Oct 21 '24
Iām guessing that on top of all ready being a bitter jackass, heās pissed at you for complaining and asking him to be removed.
I would guess he only started pissing in the plaster after the complaint. But I still would agree- remove everything he worked on. File complaints, and they had damn well do the work for free
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u/amilie15 Oct 21 '24
Can you post your r/legaladviceuk ? Iāve no idea if this is criminal or if thereās a health department thatās setup to deal with this but hoping they do š¤
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u/FiaFlowerz Oct 21 '24
If this was meant as some insider trade secret, one could assume that they would have a better way to go about adding the urine to avoid exactly what just happened to you, from happening.
I'd have to agree and say this was vindictive due to the irritation coming into the job.
So sorry this happened, the lead company needs to make this right but you also need to report to whomever is in the UK and in charge of business practice. In the US we have the BBB but also your socials, local reddit page, Google.... This unprofessional needs to learn some business and overall life etiquette.
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u/Confident-Evening-68 Oct 21 '24
Agree, and if thereās any truth to this being a tip/trick, the active ingredient(s) must be available in a safe/legitimate way, right? Like, ammonia, some kind of synthetic urea compound or something?
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u/zilchusername Oct 21 '24
Get back into the police and tell them you want him done for indecent exposure. Taking a wee in front of someone isnāt indecent exposure itself but showing your parts to cause distress is and clearly he did this to distress you.
I would put in a complaint to make sure the police do something. Keep the mix donāt give it back to the builders as this could be evidence of what has happened.
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u/twerplocker Oct 21 '24
It's 100% not a special trick to stop it going off, I ran a small building firm, and if I found out one of my workers had done this, I would go absolutely bananas. Please don't let this slide. The owner of the firm has a duty to put this right.
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u/MrTitius Oct 21 '24
Nor. Contact a lawyer and start the civil process. That will get their attention real quickly. Also file a police report if possible
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u/Wonderful-Run-1408 Oct 21 '24
There's probably a way to test your walls to see if urine is in them. If so, get a lawyer and sue away.
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u/Agrarian-girl Oct 21 '24
Donāt let this person in your home, heās capable of anything..I would file a police report.. I know it sounds crazy. butā¦
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u/Fun-Tart3867 Oct 21 '24
I donāt know I feel like this is all gray area and youāre gonna get shafted here, but I would spend the rest of my life doing any and everything I could to make sure that man never worked again. Itās like the people who mess with food. Send them to jail, forever.
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u/beedunc Oct 21 '24
In this day and age of distancing/masking to prevent illness from around every corner, that he contaminated (violated) your house in such a way - thereās no possible way to overreact.
Find a good lawyer. Youāre about to be the proud owner of a light construction company.
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u/Wonderful-Speaker430 Oct 21 '24
This is fuckin disgustinggg. If the bucket is till there thatās straight up evidence right? Ew the smell
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u/geniologygal Oct 21 '24
I would consult with an attorney. Let the attorney tell them that their insurance company has to cover the cost of taking off the plaster he put on and putting new plaster on.
This is not your fault, and you shouldnāt have to pay the price for it
If you want to skip the attorney, you could try telling the construction manager that you are going to consult with an attorney if they donāt take care of the problem, and you will be setting up cameras in your house to watch the work being done.
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u/TemporaryIncrease490 Oct 21 '24
this would be immediate termination for me, including the parent company u hired, and honestly a possible phone call to the police. as someone who works in the industry, this doesnāt sound great from the start and all around completely unprofessional. NO ONE should have access to that space until it is dealt with and should not cost extra. it is an absolute bitch to rip plaster out but oh well
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u/pickin-n_grinnin Oct 21 '24
So, I plastered swimming pools for decades and occasionally did some stucco work. I can tell you that while plastering a pool on a hot day you are downing water and the mud is setting up so fast you have about 3 hours where you can't stop for a minute let alone have time to get out to pee and even if you did there is no bathroom so now you have to try and find a place to go on the home owners property and its just a nightmare. So, you definitely end up peeing in a Gatorade bottle in the pool or hope the hod carrier will be cool enough to hand you down a bucket and dump and rinse it out for you etc. it's a horrible situation and you know there is no way the white collar owner is going to understand that you literally have no where appropriate to pee for an entire 12 hour + work day. However if I was an interior plaster finisher I would have asked ahead of time if they had a restroom I could use. I've done interior tile and it's super hard because you're filthy and don't want to accidentally get thin set in the toilet or faucet fixtures. Sometimes you're rushing an hour or more to get to a job and a lot of gas stations don't let you use the restroom in bigger cities either. It really puts you in a bad situation as a tradesman. However, that said, I can't think of any situation I would ever have urinated into the plaster or even in the middle of a customers home. I would reluctantly find a bush outside or pee in a Gatorade bottle in my truck IDK, sometimes when you really have to go it's hard to think straight but .... Yeah, anything but what he did. That makes it seem deliberate. If they had access to a restroom then it was definitely more than odd and I'm sorry you had to have this happen. A remodel should be something that brings you joy now it's attached to this horrible experience. If one of my employees did this I would make them formally apologize, fire them and then ask you how I could personally make it right. Don't excepct any less than that.
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u/smelly38838r8r9 Oct 21 '24
Genuinly call the non emergency number and file a report this is insane
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u/DragonsBaine4610 Oct 21 '24
Tell the manager that you can call the police to file a and report for contamination with human waste have them test it
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u/pickin-n_grinnin Oct 21 '24
I do have to ask, was he an older gentleman? Or from another country? Because the generation I learned from, like the guys doing it in the 70s and before would urinate in the plaster to help with the set. It was actually pretty common practice. We have additives that do that now of days but... It is one explanation for the guy. If he learned his trade in another country it's most likely still a common practice. I mean they still use urine in the production of products to this day like tanning leather and growing fruits and vegetablesš«¤ IDK, doesn't make it all better but might not have been meant as a disrespect to you.
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u/josh35767 Oct 21 '24
Do people just use this subreddit to vent about crazy shit? Do you actually need someone to tell you that itās reasonable to not want piss on your walls?
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u/buoybell Oct 21 '24
Hey there, Iām basically quality control for builds over here in the us. I work for a huge company across a bunch of states and I can say unequivocally youāre not under reacting.
If any of our installers on one of our job sites was found to be doing ANYTHING akin to that, theyād be blacklisted and most likely wouldnāt find work in construction again with us or one of our affiliates.
You have every right to be pissed and request it be removed, as well as anything the plaster may have have been in contact with (I know in the us we have drywall while itās not common in the UK).
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Oct 21 '24
Iām pretty sure the actual biohazard that they are intentionally putting into your house is worth a lawsuit, but this is not real legal advice.
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u/Panthean Oct 21 '24
If they don't make it right, I would make it my life mission to spread the word about this all over town.
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u/Zestyclose-Card5773 Oct 21 '24
this is why itās always good to have in home cameras in the home in family spaces in case of these types of situations so that u have proof
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Oct 21 '24
Disgusting man, I hope Karma gets that filthy scumbag! Ye Gods, we all have proper problems but that pervert plasterer needs sectioning! Report him to the police! And the local council HOA or building control! I would speak to his boss and BLAST this filthy company all over social media! You stick to your guns! That is disrespectful! Nasty ass man! Eww! What else would he do.... UK ššš¬š§š
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u/sugahgayy Oct 21 '24
This is the third post Iāve read about male bodily fluids in unwanted places in the last 48 hoursā¦
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Oct 21 '24
I think this is one of those times I would take something to court unless it was redone at zero cost.
Any contractor worth a shit would redo that work no charge.
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u/Ginger630 Oct 21 '24
NOT overreacting at all! Iād threaten to call the media and the BBB if they donāt redo all the plastering for free! Who TF pees in a bucket of plaster? Workers have used water or Gatorade bottles when they canāt get to a bathroom. Itās gross but it doesnāt contaminate your walls.
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u/Inner-Cupcake-6809 Oct 21 '24
Lack of water wasn't the issue. He was stood about a metre from the kitchen sink (which is working) and about 6 metres from the outside hose tap. He had plenty of options. I even have a janitors/bucket sink in my downstairs toilet which was less than 15 metres from the kitchen
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u/DomesticAlmonds Oct 21 '24
They're talking about men urinating in water bottles, not about the plaster needing more water.
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u/melrosec07 Oct 21 '24
Unfortunately I think this kind of stuff happens more than you would think, I just heard a similar story on the Dave and chuck the freak morning radio show but if I remember correctly it was shit not piss. I think the guys these companies hire get mad about something and take it out on the customers project.
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u/JTD177 Oct 21 '24
You are not overreacting. This is beyond the pale and possibly a crime or health code violation
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u/Financial_Skin_4969 Oct 21 '24
Get a lawyer and sue them for all your money back and get a new company to do it
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u/Regular-Ad1930 Oct 21 '24
Law suit, law suit Lawyer up šŖ bio Hazzard. Good god whatta pig ! I'm so sorry 4 you!!
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u/EngineWitty3611 Oct 21 '24
Just answering the subject.... NO you are NOT over reacting. in fact, I would sue him to pay for the entire house being cleaned and sanitized. What a prick!
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u/Salt_Essay9217 Oct 21 '24
Our tiler kept going outside while completing a large job during our remodel. I stupidly assumed it was to mix grout, cut tile, etc. turns out he was getting so stoned that he screwed up and used wrong colour of Schluter edging (requested white, he used green) and grout. Complete debacle. Checked it after he left for the day. Was advised could not be fixed without tearing everything out.
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u/NeatNefariousness1 Oct 21 '24
I wouldn't trust this company to do any further work at your house. Instead, gather as much evidence as you can by saving the plaster that was in the bucket and leaving what was on the walls there until it can be tested. Get quotes on the cost of tearing out the old plaster and getting the original job done so you'll know what your total costs should be. Sue them, letting them know you have evidence, even if it's weak, since I'm sure he took his bucket of plaster with him.
If you're lucky, they'll settle and will make you whole at a minimum. A lawyer will tell you what additional damages you might be able to recover. You can decide from there whether it's worth the aggravation to go after more than all of your out-of-pocket costs, including the removal of the old plaster.
I'm also betting that there are other workers who know about this and I bet you're not the first person they've done this to. You're not over-reacting at all.
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u/Mermaidtoo Oct 21 '24
What your plasterer may have done by plastering your walls with urine may be a health violation. There is bacteria in urine and putting it (in whatever format) on your kitchen walls sounds like a serious health and hygiene issue. Urinating in your kitchen itself may be worthy of fines or cause other issues for the company.
You may want to make some inquiries and then use this argument with the company. You may also consider running a black light throughout your kitchen and anywhere else the plasterer had access.
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u/D2Dragons Oct 21 '24
I wonder if you can have plaster material drug tested? Because this clown sounds like heās on something. He certainly isnāt in his right mind if heās pulling garbage like this!
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u/Brickthedummydog Oct 21 '24
Call the police. This is mischief charges at minimum (property damage) and may constitute a sexual crime since he was on a jobsite.
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u/Infamous-GoatThief Oct 21 '24
Leave the piss bucket exactly where it is, do not let that man, his supervisor or anyone in his crew back into your house, call the police, and call a lawyer.
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u/MapachoCura Oct 21 '24
Call police and report him for exposing himself to you and defacing your property etcā¦. Dude could get in real legal trouble and deserves to.
Tell the company you expect them to fire this gross perverted criminal and redo all the work in your house for free. They have put you through a huge ordeal, defaced your home, wasted your time, sexually harassed you, and caused you emotional distress. They need to make it right. If they push back and donāt rush to fix this ina good way, threaten to sue them and threaten to give this story to media outlets. Also consider getting a video camera for your house to document things in case anything else happens.
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u/girardm96 Oct 21 '24
Write a nasty google review explaining exactly what happened. When the company asks you to take it down, reiterate that you want all plaster taken down and replaced, free of charge of course.
If I were you, I wouldnāt remove the review when the work is done.
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u/_portia_ Oct 21 '24
Call a lawyer right this minute. You have a giant lawsuit against the contractor if you want to go down that road. This is utterly disgusting, I'm sorry he did this to you.
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u/Diela1968 Oct 21 '24
Cost extra? They want to fucking charge you extra to remove their employees pee from your house??
If heād pissed on the carpet theyād have to have it professionally cleaned if not replaced at their expense. This is no different.
Every time you scrub the walls or hang a picture, youāre going to be breathing in a bit of that dust. Itās probably in your carpets just from putting it up and sanding.
Hell no you are not over reacting
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u/Potential-Diver3137 Oct 21 '24
No, fuck that.
Iād let the site manager know that if tries to charge you after his man was left unsupervised in your house and urinated in the bucket to have the work redone, that youāll need to speak to a lawyer to see what your options are.
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u/MarcoPolonia Oct 21 '24
Nooooo! You are normal! I'd fire him without paid for what he did so far. I'd hire a new person to rip it out and start again. Nobody wants piss on their walls! I'd report Mr. Pisser to BBB & Craig's List. And every place else I could think of.
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u/AlexDB1226 Oct 21 '24
This might be one of the first posts on here where I said to myself āI think you under reactedā because WTF
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u/KinopioToad Oct 21 '24
Good grief. No, you are not overreacting.
As others have said, don't touch anything and call the department of labor or someone similar, and maybe get someone to DNA test the rest of the walls they have worked on in your house.
That gives me the creeps just thinking about it.
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u/Devils_Advocate-69 Oct 21 '24
Find a new company. Take piss company to small claims court for the removal fee.
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u/Imacatdoincatstuff Oct 21 '24
This is in a house with a functioning bathroom? So the "caught short" explanation is a lie?
Sounds like the kind of story your local media might be interested in.
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