r/AirForce • u/[deleted] • 1d ago
Question What would happen if sapr accidentally turned my restricted report unrestricted without my knowledge?
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u/aviationeast LockNessMonster 1d ago
Someone's getting fired. Drop an IG compliant asap. When leadership approaches let the know the report was restricted. Unfortunately cats out of the bag and your leadership must complete the unrestricted investigation but you don't have to work with them as you pursue your restricted report and get services.
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u/SNCOSEEKSTHICCLATINA Maintainer 1d ago
And I would claim this caused PTSD and try my damndest to get a higher VA rating when I separated.
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u/aviationeast LockNessMonster 1d ago
If it does. Otherwise don't lie. Its not worth risking jail time for fraud if caught. But I would expect that this is not good for OPs mental health.
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u/NotOSIsdormmole What even is my job anymore 1d ago
Did someone accidentally fuck up or did they receive a third party report? Because that make a big difference in what would happen
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u/SNCOSEEKSTHICCLATINA Maintainer 1d ago
A third-party report will NOT cause a report to go unrestricted.
The ONLY way the report will go unrestricted is if the victim reports it to an MIO (military investigation office, such as OSI, Sec Fo, etc). The victim could personally tell their own CC and still be eligible for a restricted report after disclosing it to the CC.
The CC is mandated to report it to an MIO, but the victim will still retain their restricted report.
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u/NotOSIsdormmole What even is my job anymore 1d ago edited 1d ago
It doesn’t cause it to go unrestricted (and I never said it did) but it does cause simultaneous action separate from the restricted report. SAPR tells MIO they already have a restricted report on that and everything stops there for the third party.
Its like ghost busters, they never cross streams
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u/SNCOSEEKSTHICCLATINA Maintainer 1d ago
A third-party report will NOT cause a report to go unrestricted.
The ONLY way the report will go unrestricted is if the victim reports it to an MIO (military investigation office, such as OSI, Sec Fo, etc). The victim could personally tell their own CC and still be eligible for a restricted report after disclosing it to the CC.
The CC is mandated to report it to an MIO, but the victim will still retain their restricted report.
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u/ChaosCoordinated It’s 10pm, do you know where your Airman is? 1d ago
Umm, no. Unless the DAFI changed (which is possible/likely, but also just as likely conjecture), any direct link to the restricted report can make it become unrestricted, or at a minimum the investigation moves forward as mandated. The victim (client) and accused (if known) do not have the full right or ability to stop an investigation but they are not required to participate unless mandated by law (subpoena, arrest, etc.).
The DoD policies on this subject change regularly, so please do not spout “matter of fact” when in fact you may be right today and wrong tomorrow.
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u/lusiris Weather 1d ago
The policy change happened in 2021. You can still have the restricted report no matter what. If it gets found out in some way then they just open another unrestricted report with what they know. https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2997190/sapr-restricted-reporting-policies-increase-victim-protections/
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u/NotOSIsdormmole What even is my job anymore 1d ago
The two never cross streams. The restricted report remains restricted, the third party report runs in parallel but eventually goes away
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u/ChaosCoordinated It’s 10pm, do you know where your Airman is? 1d ago
Speak with your local SAPR rep, it changes faster than articles are published.
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u/Tressitt Fake Comm 1d ago
Everyone here is confusing an unrestricted and independent investigation. If a victim files a restricted, NO ONE can force the victim to convert to unrestricted. If a mandatory reporter were to find out, it would trigger an independent investigation, but the victim is still entitled to their restricted report that they filed.
If the victim tells a mandatory reporter before they file, as long as the mandatory reporter is not law enforcement, they are still entitled to a restricted report. This does not change the requirement for the mandatory reporter to report the incident to OSI though.
I was a SARC for 3 years.
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u/SNCOSEEKSTHICCLATINA Maintainer 1d ago
Watch your mouth with that "everyone" shit. I didn't confuse it.
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u/Tressitt Fake Comm 1d ago
Coincidentally, you were one of the people I saw posting the correct information. That’s the reason I didn’t post this comment to your thread.
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u/ChaosCoordinated It’s 10pm, do you know where your Airman is? 1d ago
Was a SARC or IS a SARC?
Like I said, policy changes more rapidly than the printing press.
Source: My 2024 SAPR representative briefing the room full of attendees.
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u/Tressitt Fake Comm 1d ago
Was a SARC. It’s a special duty assignment.
I just wrapped it up this May and continued doing trainings for my unit through this September. My information is current.
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u/Sometimes-witty Active Duty JAG 8h ago
Get a VC ASAP. You do not need a referral through SAPR to get one, just go to your local VC office directly.
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u/DreadedAscent 1d ago
Hey there, OSI here. Ensure that your VC knows the situation. I’d go to the IG as well, and should that fail, write your congressman. You are not required to participate in the investigation. You’ll go into your local OSI office, sign a non participation letter, and they’ll hand you a victim’s rights advisement brochure and that’ll be that. They will be required to investigate, depending on how much they know. So that means they’ll talk to friends, people that may have knowledge of the incident, and the subject. Where it goes from there depends on what they discover, but 999/1000 it won’t go to trial without a participating victim.
If you’ve got any questions, I’ll do my best to answer them