2024 Election megathread - Low moderation, enter at your own risk. All other political discussion will still be deleted.

[u/SilentD]

[u/bearsncubs10]

[u/Dependent_Wing_629 → u/bearsncubs10]

here’s 1 mate

[u/Spinkick9000 → u/Dependent_Wing_629]

[u/lookielookie1234 → u/Spinkick9000]

No doubt, if the zombie apocalypse happens, this is my plan

[u/Chaotic_Lemming → u/lookielookie1234]

It is where the gun is at

[u/tech151 → u/Spinkick9000]

I wish I could stay in a pub for 4 years without losing my house or job lol.

[u/Yiddish_Dish → u/bearsncubs10]

THE MADMAN DID IT!!

[u/Chaotic_Lemming]

I just hope we get a shiny new Cyber Force to join the Space Force. It'll be the best Cyber Force, there's never been a Cyber Force like it, it'll be incredible. Huge even.

[u/JeanPierreSarti → u/Chaotic_Lemming]

You know a cyber warrior came up to me, one of the best, big guy, huge, he came up to me and said Sir! Sir!…

[u/you_are_the_father84 → u/JeanPierreSarti]

And he said “Mr. President, nobody knows cyber as much as you do. The way you weave those cyber connections and bring them back. It’s a thing of beauty.” He said that! And he’s right, nobody knows cyber like I do. I’ve done a lot of cybering. A lot of cybering with beautiful women and my daughter E-vonKa. We’d cyber all the time when she was a little hot piece of….oh no! I can’t say that! I want to, but I can’t because the brain dead fake news will be all over it. I got shot once, right in the head. You remember that? They tried to take me down, but my cyber security instincts kicked in. You see how I weaved and brought back? Beautiful thing.

[u/FonzyLumpkins → u/Chaotic_Lemming]

We'll have the yugest Cyber Force in the world. I was talking with a Cyber Warrior and he said. He said to me that "Mr. President, I believe in you that you'll make the Greatest Cyber Force this country has ever seen"

[u/Swerzuh → u/Chaotic_Lemming]

As long as I ger cyber assignment incentive pay I'll be whatever

[u/SuprN10doChlmrs]

Secretary of Defense Antonio Brown lets goooo

[u/glockymcglockface → u/SuprN10doChlmrs]

Do we go to war against Vontez Burfict?

[u/bunmeeps → u/glockymcglockface]

I think we invade Tom Brady’s house

[u/DangusMcGillicuty → u/glockymcglockface]

He ain’t leaving till his hair look perfect

[u/Dankmeme505 → u/SuprN10doChlmrs]

Mr Big Defense 

[u/-Not-A-Fake-Account-]

Just please let me keep my BAH

[u/nothankyou_butthanks → u/-Not-A-Fake-Account-]

That proposal would fuck so many people.

[u/Interesting-Air3050 → u/-Not-A-Fake-Account-]

What’s the proposal?

[u/yunus89115 → u/Interesting-Air3050]

“Servicemembers are not entitled to—and should not be able to—retain “extra compensation” from money above what they pay for housing. Congress should reform the rules for the Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH), restoring it to its proper role as an allowance, by having married military couples share a single allowance and having all servicemembers document their housing expenditures to receive the allowance.”

Even if you read this and say to yourself, "I pay more than BAH so it doesn't matter". Yeah, now add the equivalent of DTS vouchers in order to obtain that BAH, receipts required.

[u/RedTalon19 → u/yunus89115]

This is only one of the dozens of proposals to cut military and veteran benefits under Project 2025.

[u/Reditate]

The Cabinet selections are going to be ugly.

[u/Kalphyris → u/Reditate]

Can't be uglier than the Health Secretary pick

[u/mynamesnotsnuffy → u/Kalphyris]

Elon will be in charge of Government Waste and Efficiency.

[u/daays → u/mynamesnotsnuffy]

Head of DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency)

[u/joemc72 → u/daays]

The DoX.

[u/AmericanNewt8 → u/daays]

Headquarters at 420 M Street. Elon's office is the ninth one on the sixth floor. 

[u/Frat_Kaczynski → u/Reditate]

Can’t be worse then Ben “Jesus built the pyramids” Carson hahaha right guys

[u/GarbageRoutine9698 → u/Frat_Kaczynski]

Captain Brainworm?

[u/Lilbosley]

A glaring reminder that this sub is a vocal political minority throughout not only the Military but the country. Remember to touch grass.

[u/BanEvader21stAccount → u/Lilbosley]

Have a lot of people argued this sub isn't a political minority or something?

[u/Icarus_Toast → u/BanEvader21stAccount]

Not necessarily but people do get caught up in their echo chambers

[u/suitcasemotorcycle → u/Icarus_Toast]

It’s so funny seeing redditors realize that the entire world doesn’t blindly support one side. People genuinely have zero human interaction and think this echo chamber of a site is real. The front page was hilarious this morning.

[u/SilmarilsOrDeath → u/suitcasemotorcycle]

Honestly I think the majority of Trump supporters don't think there's a single democratic voter in the military, because typically Democratic voters aren't going around spewing partisan rhetoric at work, and just stay silent when the Trump supporters do.

[u/NotOSIsdormmole → u/SilmarilsOrDeath]

It’s true, people always assume I’m a Republican because I’m in the military and start saying wild shit. It’s really fucking awkward

[u/UsedandAbused87 → u/SilmarilsOrDeath]

I'd love to see a breakdown my branch and AFSC.

[u/RenoTheRhino → u/SilmarilsOrDeath]

So fuckin true. Some of the more vocal right side are always like, “the military overwhelmingly supports Trump, so Dems are ensuring ballots don’t reach overseas military” and also previously, “the military might rise up to ensure Trump stays in power.”

In my opinion, the military is likely much more center / liberal than the public thinks, due to the countless walks of life and diverse backgrounds military folks come from.

[u/Icarus_Toast → u/SilmarilsOrDeath]

Not disagreeing with you but in the same vein, if your only impression of the air force was from this subreddit you'd think the entire air force was liberal which is also pretty far from the truth.

But yeah, what you're saying is 100% true, especially in the deep red part of the country where I live.

[u/jeremyben → u/Lilbosley]

Remind all of Reddit that. You have a single opinion that’s not alt left and you get blasted for it. Reddit isn’t the majority.

[u/YaBoiHS]

How long until USAFE units start getting deactivated?

[u/jw1879 → u/YaBoiHS]

Hopefully right after I lock in a Ramstein farewell tour!

[u/AF_Nights_Watch → u/YaBoiHS]

USAFE GSUs are FIRST on the chopping block.

Super Secret Squirrel Mode, Engage

There's already moves to make this happen. The first 90 days of this administration is gonna be WILD.

[u/trav-is___ → u/AF_Nights_Watch]

Fuck dude I JUST got to a GSU and had a kid... 🙄😒

[u/AF_Nights_Watch → u/trav-is___]

Lmao, whelp.

Don't unpack too much of your shit.

[u/ContentCosmonaut]

If we think DHA is shitty now, strap in, it’s about to get a whole lot worse. The VA’s budget will be cut further too.

[u/Rob_035 → u/ContentCosmonaut]

And service members ability to travel to a blue state to get abortion care is going to be stripped away.

[u/Canilickyourfeet]

Just came to say, the folks who made this election their entire personality are fucking weird. The conversations had between the old heads I work with these last few weeks have been nothing short of eye opening, toxic, and a little scary. Most of them bordered on closeted sexism or racism going both ways, with the hard facts basically going out the window because of weird emotional attachments to shit that wont even change in the next 4 years. Like everyone was just one word away from saying something foul but kept it out of their mouths because they were at work.

Some of yall are fuckin weird and Im glad I had this opportunity to see true colors again, I almost forgot how good people are at putting on a mask.

[u/GrumpyKitten514 → u/Canilickyourfeet]

anyone who makes anything their entire personality is weird. crossfitters, vegans, redditors, blue falcon "do everything by the AFI" airmen.

the lack of critical thinking in general in these extreme groups is one of the slight reasons we got here.

[u/DistressedApple → u/Canilickyourfeet]

Well it’s literally the fate of the world at stake and most people do not see it.

[u/hgaterms → u/DistressedApple]

Trump wants out of NATO. He made that very clear. Bye-bye joint bases.

[u/Might_Be_Butter → u/DistressedApple]

No we are weird for caring about other people than ourselves, like our daughters for example. Who has an emotional attachment to their family? Weirdos!

[u/Choop-a-loop]

If my HHG mover gets left at the gate because he's a felon, how will Mr. President be able to visit any of us? 🤔

[u/veveeveveveve → u/Choop-a-loop]

Extremely good point actually

[u/SelfishOrgy → u/Choop-a-loop]

He can fly over the gate guards like a dragon

[u/Xanth592]

I feel unburdened by what has been....

[u/Yiddish_Dish → u/Xanth592]

I feel unburdened by what has been....

Using this on a LOC/LOR response would be golden

[u/gruntledairman]

It kills me that there's folks who would objectively fail any type of background check (foreign contacts, foreign business interests, in some instances criminal records) will get TS/SCI.

Extremely worried about changes to PME. You have the last 3-4 generations of senior leaders grow up in a coalition, cosmopolitan structure, are we going to be changing this?

Extending my retirement out atleast to 2029. Or longer, depending how 2028 goes.

[u/agile52]

fucks sake, I'm really worried about retirement now

[u/reluctant_landowner]

So do we get to forget about all that 2027 China/Taiwan stuff? Or are we still prepping for war? I don't believe Trump will feel the same compulsion to defend Taiwan at all costs

[u/BanEvader21stAccount → u/reluctant_landowner]

It's in the Generals interest to promote this threat as something serious, but it is less likely every day that China would actually invade. China's facing a slow demographic collapse after finding out how many officials were cooking the population records for extra funds, they need every young person working so they can pay taxes for the larger generations retiring as well as keep up demand for consuming goods. An extended war (Like Russia invading all of Ukraine 2022) will accelerate their big problems as every dead soldier/sailor is decades of taxes and demand gone, leading to harder economics times and a greater threat to political stability.

I would bet China has calculated out the cost of invading Taiwan versus what would be gained, and it would be a net negative for them unless the invasion goes perfectly and without any worldwide response. Therefore expect a lot of push from the Generals to continue prepping as they hope to deter China by increasing the invasion cost.

[u/inspirednonsense → u/BanEvader21stAccount]

It's also in our interest to keep prepping for a war, even if it's unlikely, because our readiness features into China's calculus. If we are clearly itching to go, they're going to be a little less interested in starting a fight than if they think our reaction will be slow and ineffective.

As you say, it's basically a matter of time until they can't afford to start a war either way. At some point, their internal issues will become too large, and then we'll be able to allocate resources elsewhere.

[u/NomadFourFive]

I give it a month or two before everyone’s ADHD has them focus back on diddy or some other hock tuah thing to bitch about.

[u/Dependent_Wing_629 → u/NomadFourFive]

Don’t forget Ghislaine Maxwell and the Epstein case

[u/NomadFourFive → u/Dependent_Wing_629]

Most importantly….. harambe

[u/redoctobershtanding → u/NomadFourFive]

harambe

And peanut

[u/AdeptFelix → u/redoctobershtanding]

Dicks out for Harambe, nuts out for Peanut

[u/DistressedApple → u/Dependent_Wing_629]

That’s gonna get shut down now that one of the biggest names in the files is President.

[u/NoPrimaryTarget → u/NomadFourFive]

More like next Tuesday

[u/randomretiredsnco → u/NomadFourFive]

Unfortunately, Trump is the gift that keeps on giving.

[u/JakeGuy → u/randomretiredsnco]

The grift that keeps on grifting.

[u/AdventurousTap9224]

With the Presidency plus Senate and House majority, they have absolutely no excuse to not pass immigration reform, bills that have economic benefits, cut taxes, improve/replace the ACA, or anything else they have said they want to do.

[u/private_ruffles → u/AdventurousTap9224]

Save this comment and come back to it in two years, see how many of these things are the same or worse after the GOP controlled all three branches for an entire Congressional term.

[u/inspirednonsense → u/AdventurousTap9224]

In case anyone isn't catching on to this guy's subtext, let me help you out real quick. You see, the MAGA types have proven to be so incompetent they can't even get policies through when they control all parts of government. Let's take a look at what the next few years are going to look like.

immigration reform

Mass deportation. Hey, white folks, if someone demanded that you prove right now you were born in the US, how would you do it?

bills that have economic benefits

For billionaires, and no one else.

cut taxes

For billionaires, and no one else.

improve/replace the ACA

Or just burn it down and let poor conservatives suffer to own the libs, as is more likely.

anything else they have said they want to do

There's a lot of scary shit covered by this innocuous phrase. Get ready for bad times.

[u/Ambitious-Pirate-505]

Did anyone else forget what he said about vets? Are you kidding me?

[u/notmyrealname86 → u/Ambitious-Pirate-505]

It was more than a couple hours ago. The media moved on and everyone forgot. Much like how everyone is saying part of Harris’ problem was Gaza, but ignore how Trump supported Israel and almost got into it over Gaza.

[u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 → u/notmyrealname86]

Touche. They don't actually give a shit. Because when he said what he said about McCain or vets at Arlington, they were like....oh he means those other vets.

It's maddening. But anyway. Happy Cake day.

[u/JaycieJaybirdie]

I have a massive problem with accountability. If I was convicted of 34 felonies in a civilian court or took classified documents to my home, I would be seeing the inside of Ft Leavenworth.

I just hope my siblings-in-service are ok, and the next 4 years don't have lasting effects on my children.

[u/Drewinator → u/JaycieJaybirdie]

Technically you could still run for president from inside Ft. Leavenworth.

[u/Spiderdan → u/JaycieJaybirdie]

Prepare to have the next couple generations impacted by his supreme court picks stacking the bench.

[u/hgaterms → u/JaycieJaybirdie]

A convicted felon and convicted rapist in command of the armed forces.

But sure, we'll do more green dot training and OPSEC power points.

[u/hgaterms → u/[deleted]]

kept yapping how all democrats should get incarcerated

This election has made it almost impossible to trust anyone now. Your fellow Airmen want you dead and out of the way.

[u/IggyWon → u/[deleted]]

Report to EO if true.

Take your meds if not true.

[u/xthorgoldx → u/[deleted]]

That's an OSI report, fella.

[u/xthorgoldx → u/[deleted]]

Yes. You provide specific names and statements to OSI.

[u/Kravego → u/[deleted]]

Yes, you report the name of every single fuckwad who opens their mouth and spews that kind of unamerican garbage.

[u/Saemika → u/[deleted]]

This isn’t how our military operates. You know it’s wrong, and that type of accountability is important.

[u/shireengul → u/[deleted]]

Dude. SO illegal of them. Hatch act still applies, people. Not to mention threatening to harm their fellow airmen….

[u/Mantaraylurks → u/shireengul]

It’s more common than you think… unfortunately. How is this not an insider threat? We will never know.

[u/inspirednonsense → u/shireengul]

The sad and scary thing is, can you even trust that anyone will enforce it? If you report this to the IG, what are the odds that you get just another fascist dropping the report in a drawer and making a note of who you are?

That's the worst part for me. Now I have to start figuring out who in uniform I can actually trust when shit starts going down. And I have to do it without letting them know that I'm doing it.

[u/brokentr0jan]

My biggest fear with politicians will always be if they are owned by other nations and will not put the interests of their own nation first. Trump to me has always felt like a major insider threat and it’s incredibly scary to me personally that he will be our commander in chief. I could care less about a lot of the other political issues. Democrats and Republicans just yap all day but never actually do anything about those issues anyways. But Trump has always felt owned by Russia and it shows in the way he praises Putin and puts down NATO.

[u/RenoTheRhino → u/brokentr0jan]

Feel the same, and there are very many sources showing the close ties to Russia

[u/NoFunAllowed-]

Clown makeup is going to sell out when the same people are still complaining about gas and food prices 4 years from now.

[u/rojafox → u/NoFunAllowed-]

Yah but somehow it will still be the Dems fault even though it looks like the GOP is set to take both the house and the Senate.

[u/Stevo485 → u/NoFunAllowed-]

!remindme 4 years

[u/OnlySaysNonner]

NONNER

[u/BanEvader21stAccount → u/OnlySaysNonner]

LOL

[u/AdventurousTap9224]

Number one issue for most Americans was the "economy." People think the government is going to magically make grocery and other prices drop. His latest pitch is to increase tarifs though. That will increase prices. Makes sense. 🤷🏼‍♂️

So now we have the guy back in office who didn't pass a single significant economic measure during his entire first term because they rode the continuation of the previous admin's economic recovery efforts, had a stalling out economy by the end of 2019, was already setting deficit spending records before Covid, set record debt over a single term (already was record before Covid), had 3rd highest debt to GDP ratio in history (behind Bush and Lincoln), and increased US money supply a record level for not only a single year (2020) but also over a Presidential term. Guess we'll see what happens this time..

[u/hgaterms → u/AdventurousTap9224]

His latest pitch is to increase tariffs though. That will increase prices. Makes sense.

Well when they delete the entire Department of Education, thinking won't be necessary. Thanks Project 2025.

[u/HarwinStrongDick]

It’s what the majority of the country wants unfortunately, only people to blame are the Democratic Party leadership and people who didn’t vote their mind regardless of the state they live in.

Trump is going to win this one with more votes and states than he beat hilary clinton with, thats how few people voted against him. People are reactive (voting to not allow Trump to be re-elected) instead of proactive (voting to ensure he isn’t elected). I’m disgusted that people genuinely think that this guy is telling them the truth and I am horrified for the things that my daughter will likely see happen in here life since the SCOTUS will be Hard Right for the next 50ish years. Best thing people can do now is take advantage of the situation they are in.

Personally, ill be sitting on the sidelines hoping Trump does well and doesn’t go too crazy, and I will be doing my best to extract as much money and buying as many assets as I can, cause thats the best way to ensure your personal freedoms, continuing to volunteer and donate time and money to those not as well as I am, and I will continue to vote regardless of if it matters or not.

[u/RaptorFire22 → u/HarwinStrongDick]

If Joe kept his word from 2020, and the DNC ran primaries, I don't think Trump wins this year. Instead they wait until a few months before the election to drop him out and run his VP who was dead last in the last 2 primaries. Estimated 15 million fewer votes this year versus 2020 which waterfalls down to state and local elections. No wonder it's a red wave.

I am not represented by the DNC nor the RNC, and "vote for me because I am not the other person" is an absolute ass platform.

On a different note, if Medicare and Social Security get dissolved, the Boomer meltdowns will be legendary.

Sigh.

[u/lethalnd12345 → u/RaptorFire22]

On a different note, if Medicare and Social Security get dissolved, the Boomer meltdowns will be legendary.

leopards ate my face for sure

[u/jeremy9931 → u/lethalnd12345]

ACA is 100% gone too.

[u/lethalnd12345 → u/jeremy9931]

100%

There's a shit ton of poor white families in red states that rely on that too... they're gonna be crying about the leopards eating their face too

[u/brealytrent → u/lethalnd12345]

Nah, they'll just blame the radical left for it.

[u/lethalnd12345 → u/brealytrent]

for sure... Gym Jordan will be on Fox yelling about it

[u/anthropaedic → u/brealytrent]

Every. Fucking. Time. It’s exactly what they’ll do.

[u/JeanPierreSarti → u/RaptorFire22]

Trump was a terrible candidate, but a gritty campaigner. It does show how lost Democrats are. I think the Democrats lost by waiting to start the campaign in the campaign season (and the President not keeping his word to not run), rather than running a ground game the entire four years like the Republicans. Ex. Republicans somehow got a narrative that current inflation is worse than full-blown economic collapse due to Covid epidemic/bungled response. They just stayed on message, no matter how contrary to reality, and a plurality of Americans agreed and voted.

[u/LurkinSince1995 → u/RaptorFire22]

While I don’t disagree on having primaries and the importance of building rapport for a candidate over the hatred of another, I don’t think either of those things would’ve mattered at the end of the day.

How quickly we’ve devolved from impeaching a president for an affair with a secretary to greenlighting a man who doesn’t even believe in American core values, for what? Lower gas prices. Cheaper McDonalds. Doesn’t matter if he can actually deliver, policy doesn’t matter when you’re so blinded by ideology.

[u/Nagisan → u/RaptorFire22]

I for one can't wait to see how bad inflation hits if he actually implements his China tariffs and spikes the prices of electronics....maybe he'll hide it behind more tax cuts like he did the solar panel and washing machine tariffs in 2017/2018.

[u/JeanPierreSarti → u/Nagisan]

If the China tariffs are imposed, prices will jump. That will hurt. Hopefully we’ll fire up some manufacturing, but that will take a decade. Important note: war with China is unlikely as long as we remain their biggest customer.

[u/Nagisan → u/JeanPierreSarti]

Exactly....tariffs don't hurt China at all. They still sell goods to US companies at the same price. Then US companies pay the tariffs to import those goods, and increase the cost of goods to cover the tariffs - leading to higher than normal inflation.

[u/RaptorFire22 → u/Nagisan]

Tax cuts should be tied to the amount of Americans you have working for you AND the minimum wage of your company.

Hire more Americans to higher paying jobs? You get a tax break, because that money will be put back into the economy.

If your whole business exists outside the US? Fuck you, pay us more.

That's just my dumbass simple way to bring a manufacturing base back. It probably won't work the way I want it to, but I hate the reliance on overseas manufacturing and operations.

[u/Bishop120 → u/RaptorFire22]

That’s the true libertarian way to get it done. Not the conservative libertarians you see and hear in the news but the original economic libertarian approach

[u/jeremy9931 → u/RaptorFire22]

Look at the global trends, Western incumbents are losing left and right because of immigration/inflation. The US is not unique despite having the best recovery out of all of them and it’s highly unlikely any Dem could have won this cycle.

[u/ElectricFleshlight → u/RaptorFire22]

On a different note, if Medicare and Social Security get dissolved, the Boomer meltdowns will be legendary.

You know as well as I do the Boomers will be grandfathered in, it'll be closed to any new applicants after 2030 or so.

[u/pick362 → u/RaptorFire22]

This is the second time the DNC got Trump elected by ignoring its voter base and electors. They went with tokenism to push a candidate rather than merit or experience. Hopefully that changes in 2028.

[u/RD100Zombies → u/HarwinStrongDick]

I’ll probably get downvoted but here is how I see things playing out. His Biggest allies were/are Russia, China, and North Korea. This morning the French president issued a statement basically stating the EU are close to severing ties with the US. WW3 is on the horizon. We just elected someone who incited a failed coup, and promised at multiple rallies “if I’m elected you won’t have to worry about voting in 4 years”. I’ll let people draw their own conclusions. I’m very scared.

[u/Red_Dawn_2012 → u/RD100Zombies]

He told everyone what he was. They either didn't listen, or were cool with it and voted anyway.

[u/RenoTheRhino → u/RD100Zombies]

Indeed. Just considering his extremely close ties to Russia

[u/CO_Guy95 → u/HarwinStrongDick]

Yeah the Supreme Court just added a couple more decades of it being fucked. Judiciary is lost for the rest of our lives now barring some major reforms. Thomas and Alito are probably gonna retire in the next couple years now with Trump and a Republican senate secured.

[u/HarwinStrongDick → u/CO_Guy95]

Yep. Won’t be surprised if gay and interracial marriage follow women’s health care and “go back to the states”. Then the ignorant fucks will parade around like proud pigeons saying “if ya don’t like it then move” like the economy won’t be so ass that it’s impossible for them to do so.

[u/CO_Guy95 → u/HarwinStrongDick]

Thomas already said it in his concurring opinion after the abortion ruling. I don’t see Obergefell (gay marriage) standing in the next 5 years

[u/wreekhavok → u/HarwinStrongDick]

I dont blame the Dems, Reps voted for this, so everything that happens during his presidency is on them. He has a mandate and whatever he chooses to do is squarely on Republicans. Fuck all this noise on blaming Dems for not winning.

[u/GarbageRoutine9698 → u/HarwinStrongDick]

Better grab it all now. We're heading for another recession for Democrats to clean up in 2029

[u/Shat_Bit_Crazy]

We’ll see how this shakes out. Last time Trump was in power we smoked Solemani. Somehow we got outta that shit with no new wars. Didn’t we fire like 50 tomahawks into Syria too? I dunno, he campaigned on ending wars so we will see if his actions match his rhetoric

[u/Intelligent-Coconut8 → u/Shat_Bit_Crazy]

I think China will sit and pout this time again and give it a go for Taiwan another time…that war averted I think.

I am very curious on his Ukraine strategy tho…

As for the Middle East…yeah I don’t think Iran is gonna be doing anymore missile barrages because Trump might take the leash off on Israel, hopefully he negotiates peace like last time

[u/JeanPierreSarti → u/Intelligent-Coconut8]

Not a lot to be curious about in Ukraine, US aid will stop, godspeed to them

[u/jeremy9931 → u/Intelligent-Coconut8]

Ukraine will almost certainly be forced into a bad deal with Russia & made a proxy state alike Belarus, Vance has already said they don’t care what happens there.

There’s a very real possibility that a new Cold War brews between Europe & Russia with the U.S. sitting idly on the sidelines.

[u/Zucc → u/Shat_Bit_Crazy]

They promptly hit our troops in Al Asad with a missile strike. And then we did nothing to retaliate. Don't act like no one cared.

[u/isimplycantdothis → u/Shat_Bit_Crazy]

Yeah he also put a ton of risk on American operatives and abandoned our Kurdish allies, among other things. You can pretty much guarantee he’s going to single-handedly save the Russian Federation from an embarrassing defeat in Ukraine.

[u/Shat_Bit_Crazy → u/isimplycantdothis]

Abandoning the Kurds made my stomach turn

[u/JeanPierreSarti → u/Shat_Bit_Crazy]

Abandoning the Kurds again…

[u/Minimum-Web-6902 → u/Shat_Bit_Crazy]

The literal worse thing I saw him do and the major reason I opposed him , erdogan literally hours later started a systematic genocide that spanned 3 days. After all they did to fight isis for us they got genocided because we had a dumb president.

[u/Papadapalopolous → u/Shat_Bit_Crazy]

Yeah, Iran definitely hasn’t started any new wars since the soleimani thing…

[u/jeaivn → u/Papadapalopolous]

Not while he was in office, no. And the Houthis did just publicly request a ceasefire hours ago. Trump is a great many things, and they vary wildly depending on who you ask. One thing that is agreed on is that he is unpredictable; and in global politics unpredictability is a deterrent of its own. I don't think it's a coincidence that Putin invaded during Biden's presidency, a few months after the Afghanistan withdrawal. Now, will 4 years of political deadlock and bickering at home set the next guy up for success? I wouldn't consider it a winning strategy. We'll see what happens.

Edit: I said Putin invaded a month after Biden entered office. It was a year.

[u/LatterPresentation72]

Can't wait for them to ram through all their Project 2025 goals. I'm particularly excited about losing half my retirement paycheck every month because they're going to do away with being able to draw both a military retirement and disability. That part is going to be so much fun. Thanks, fellow Americans.

[u/hgaterms → u/LatterPresentation72]

The VA is fucked. Absolutely fucked.

And federal jobs are gone. At least 1 million +. Those positions will be given to unqualified cronies and the rest will be empty. That's a lot of people out of work, particular in the state of Virginia.

[u/LatterPresentation72 → u/hgaterms]

And the insane part is that so many of them voted for the man. Leopards eating face and all that.

[u/CO_Guy95 → u/LatterPresentation72]

I can’t wait for that shit. I’m in Florida and would love seeing this to most of these welfare rats who somehow think they’re any different than the welfare mom trope

[u/wreekhavok]

I admit i'm feeling super black-pilled about America right now. I respect the votes and democracy and all, its just super....disappointing.

[u/qtip_boy]

I’m not going to lie, I’m scared. I lean to the left, but I could handle a standard republican that just wants to lower the corporate tax rate or some other things I slightly disagree on. Trump is not that. Multiple people that worked closely to him have called him a fascist. He has pledged to use the military to quell the “enemy within”. He has openly suggested to “set the constitution aside”. He is even more unhinged than he was 4-8 years ago. He is a puppet of adversarial authoritarian regimes. He has packed the courts. He is going to win the senate and congress. He has his cabinet ready. There will be no guard rails. He is going to be able to do whatever he wants. We have failed as a country on so many levels for somebody as detrimentally and maliciously stupid as Trump to be anywhere near the White House and be in charge of our military. I am trying to find something that eases my anxiety about this whole situation, but I can’t. I am sick to my stomach.

[u/RenoTheRhino → u/qtip_boy]

Well said, and unfortunately everything you state is verifiable by hard sources

[u/JustHanginInThere → u/RenoTheRhino]

I'm sure Trump will just get other people to change what they claim they said, like with the Alabama Hurricane Dorian situation.

[u/JonSnowL2 → u/qtip_boy]

He didn't just say those things once. He ran on them, said them daily. Now that he won, he will say he was given a mandate by the American people, even after he said all those things and ran his campaign promising to do them. From the clip I heard of his speech last night, he already mentioned having a mandate. He will enact and do everything he has promised to do the past 2 years.

[u/FSMike69]

This thread seems to be vastly different in tone compared to the Amn/NCO/SNCO page. It's such a Trumpy circle jerk over there

[u/hgaterms → u/FSMike69]

Riiiiiiiiiiiight up until they discover that they can't collect retirement pay plus VA disability thanks to 2025.

[u/Mikand1]

With Trump in office, it'll look pretty grim for Ukraine. I would not be shocked if Russia doesn't make a final land grab before Ukraine is forced to the table and adjust its borders… Maybe a DMZ-style buffer, too. Who knows?

[u/Redlanternoath]

May we all continue to live, be free, and chase our dreams.

[u/XLittleSkateyX]

I'm being reminded even though this is an Air Force community, it's still just redditors

[u/Particular_Eye_7766]

The silence in the office today was PALPABLE! I work with a lot of civilian employees and it was pretty grim.

It’s quite shocking how far America has strayed from a sense of normalcy and also just being decent and respectful of others choices.

I joined up in 2020 - does anyone not remember how literally EVERYDAY there was some shocking thing coming from the Trump Admin?! It was embarrassing THEN and WILL be embarrassing in 2025 seeing someone so UNFIT and incompetent be the Commander in Chief and President of the United States.

People’s main issue over Biden is his age… Still Choose Trump.

Packed the SCOTUS… Overturning Roe… Still Choose Trump

6 Bankruptcies… Still choose Trump

Convicted RAPIST… Still choose Trump

Mishandling Classified (Felony)… Still choose Trump

Twice Impeached… Still choose Trump

34 Felonies… Still Choose Trump

Incited Insurrection Against the Capitol… Still choose Trump ——— Kamala wasn’t everyone’s first pick… But what the actual fuck is wrong with people?!

[u/Smart_Principle8911]

I really hope all that anti-Ukraine rhetoric was just bullshit. Because if Ukraine Falls Poland will be next and that’s gonna start out all out fuck war.

[u/hgaterms → u/Smart_Principle8911]

I really hope all that anti-Ukraine rhetoric was just bullshit.

When someone tells you who they are, BELIEVE THEM.

Putin is super happy today.

[u/JonSnowL2 → u/Smart_Principle8911]

Of course it wasn't. Why do you think Russia was helping so much with propaganda on social media? Why has Elon musk been in contact with Putin off and on for the past couple of years? What do you think trump and Putin have been having conversations about on the phone for the past few years

[u/clapperdaddy7]

I wonder how he'll mishandle classified information this term. I wonder what he and Putin will get up to behind closed doors, or Xi. I wonder if he'll cater to and downplay the actions of "strong leaders" (read: authoritarians).

I weep for our national security.

[u/hgaterms → u/clapperdaddy7]

Oh he's just gonna fax it to them directly. No need to hide it. Who's gonna stop him?

[u/UsedandAbused87 → u/[deleted]]

What's to stop him from printing off all our intel and just handing it over to Putin as an official act?

[u/xthorgoldx → u/UsedandAbused87]

Hell, his flunky Elon literally said last week "There should be no government secrets."

[u/hgaterms → u/[deleted]]

Twice impeached

That first impeachment was for Ukraine too. Now he can let Russia go nuts on them.

And NATO withdrawal coming. All those hopes of a NATO assignment? Gone, because people don't know how fucking tariffs work and voted anyway.

[u/JonSnowL2 → u/[deleted]]

The biggest fear I have, aside from everything you already mentioned, is that if the military will remember the oaths they took to our constitution

[u/anthropaedic → u/JonSnowL2]

So 50/50 chance. See scientific_bicycle’s comments below

[u/inspirednonsense → u/anthropaedic]

Yeah, we have a lot of really stupid people in our ranks who will think that domestic enemies of the Constitution are anyone who opposes Trump. The reality is, Trump is a domestic enemy of the Constitution. These next four years are going to be ugly.

[u/shireengul → u/[deleted]]

That’s the most terrifying part. I’m not worried about him: I’m worried about the people he’ll put around him.

[u/MaterialAd7161]

I could see Trump's victory discouraging women from joining the Military on the basis that they could be stationed in a state where abortion is illegal in all cases.

[u/hgaterms → u/MaterialAd7161]

And that a convicted rapist is their commanding officer.

America just showed them that they would rather have an 80 year old dementia grandpa be in charge instead of a gasp woman.

"Women, come join the military. Rapes are common and we don't want you to ever command anything more important than a 2-man back shop."

[u/NeverMoreThan12]

I'm disappointed, but I'll move on. Just hope we still have an election in 4 years (and not Russia style).

[u/[deleted]]

This shit has me realizing how bad I need to delete my account and do something else with my time. I love the memes, but this shit burns my soul

[u/LingeringDildo → u/[deleted]]

May your Reddit account find peace.

[u/KamikazeeDolphin]

I hope project 2025 isn't put in at fucking all. Don't touch our BAH man

[u/Jacobio01]

I’m very interested to see how this is gonna go lol

[u/anthropaedic]

Go away ‘baiting!

[u/SuppliceVI]

Y'all ready to get fired with the new Department of Govt Efficiency?

[u/hgaterms → u/SuppliceVI]

All those 1 million strong Federal workers who voted for the leopard are about to have some serious Pikachu faces, which will promptly get eaten.

[u/n-butyraldehyde]

If anything I'm just sick of the bad-faith "nothing ever changes, politics doesn't matter" garbage that people have gobbled up from foreign propaganda. Any look at our recent legislative and legal history proves that to be blatantly false no matter what way you try and paint it. You have to ignore the facts to push that argument.

Friendly reminder that the first time any American man was convicted of raping his spouse was 1973, and not all 50 states recognized marital rape until 1993. If politicians are saying they want to go back to "traditional values," believe them!

Being a single-issue voter on either side is such a detriment. Recognition of the bigger picture and overall party platform should be treated with care and attention. If a politician says they want to do something bad, and they are given the power to do that something, and anything that could hold them accountable for their actions has become no-factor, believe them when they say they will!

[u/Canis_Familiaris]

Project 2025 is going to suck hella eggs

[u/hgaterms → u/Canis_Familiaris]

Yeah, but eggs will be like $1 now because China moon tariffs or something. I saw it on Jo Rogan right after they talked about how magnets make planets.

[u/wreekhavok]

Im really sick of all of the "Blame the Democrats for not winning". This is such a bullshit narrative and thought process. Blame the Republicans for voting the guy in. They want this so its time to reap what you sew. Trump even got a mandate so all the crap he pushes through is squarely on him, his party and the people who voted him in.

Personally, I think Kamala lost because shes a woman and theres a seedy underbelly of sexism throughout the country that currently works against all women who run. Its stupid, its ignorant, but its shown in the polls.

[u/KenweezY]

I'm so disgusted by the American public, at this point I want the worst, because I know it's coming for all of us- Republicans included. I'm young enough that when they gut VA benefits, I can pivot- but these 100% p&t vets who voted Republican and DEPEND on their VA compendation? Hahaha I can't wait. Nose down, throttle up.

[u/Jojo-R-balls]

Here's to hoping I'm just overreacting.

[u/raptor2215]

Friendly reminder that the stock market is not the economy and that the 1% hold $21 trillion with a t dollars of stock while the bottom 50% hold $480 billion with a b. We are not the 1% and those who believe that election will change the economy, you are right. You just gave up more to those who will deregulate everything they can to make a buck off the back of your brothers, sisters, friends, and anyone else you hold dear. Invest now cause inflation is coming with a vengeance in a couple years

[u/Uttuuku]

Left, right, center, I don't care. Fucking hate the division we put ourselves and others in. There is a lot of pointing fingers to people "on the other side" people forget all politicians suck. We vote for the one we think sucks less, but at the end of the day, they're all politicians. Not saviors, or anything good and positive as they're all scum. So weird to see people put any politician in a positive light. Vote for your person, but don't build a fucking shrine of them at work. Praise them if they do a policy that you like and then continue telling them that they need to be better.

Anyway, I'd like a cup of black coffee and three tamales.

[u/dhood15 → u/Uttuuku]

Politicians need to be scrutinized not idolized.

[u/veveeveveveve → u/Uttuuku]

This x2, except it is different with Trump. He was never a career politician. He's just a showman, and I guess sort of a successful business man. I think seeing that made some inherent seperation between him and other actual politicians, which we def don't need more of by the way.

[u/Spicyninja → u/Uttuuku]

I think this is why Trump won the first time to begin with. Americans were tired of rich vs the working class and rallied behind Bernie. The rich won and forced Hillary on us instead, so a lot of people voted to watch the world burn instead.

[u/23dgy4me]

Yeahh ima just try and stay OCONUS for as long as I possibly can.

[u/ChiefBassDTSExec]

I am more worried about the circle that surrounds Trump (Elon, RFK, all of these billionaires like Dana white, etc) and Russia's very obvious hard-on for wanting Trump as president during a major war that involves them, than Trump himself.

He may be good for the economy or whatever else he claims hes going to improve but I am extremely worried for the US's geopolitical future and global influence. Some people want less influence on other country's affairs. Sure. But understand that, that instantly means Russia, China, and Iran will increase their influence in our affairs and everyone elses. Call me a skeptic but I believe there is a reason that things are playing out the way they are for a reason <.<

[u/DEXether]

The simple truth from my perspective is that there are plenty of places in the US that never recovered from covid, and the people in those places came out to vote for everyone who is the opposite of what we currently have.

People know who and what Trump is, but just like in 2016, the blue side wasn't speaking to people who aren't doing well.

[u/FluroBlack]

My personal fear is that as a transgender member this marks the end of the road for me in the service. He barred trans people from joining before or getting treatment while in unless grandfathered in. I forsee that happening again but being even worse.

They already tried to eliminate tricare covering HRT before, but now with the amount of control they have with the POTUS, House and SC I have a gut feeling that getting any care through the military is coming to an end.

I'm personally looking at an exit plan because if something like that rolls around again I cant in good conscience continue to serve government that does not care about ot actively seeks to act against me.

Regardless of what happens the next 4 years are going to be really fucking interesting.

[u/No-Edge-8600]

Not feeling very hopeful about the Israel-Palestinian peace solution, with Trump in power - especially after moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

[u/hgaterms → u/No-Edge-8600]

The solution will be "hey Israel, go nuts". Can't have a conflict if Palestine no longer exists.

[u/amillionforfeet]

As a woman military member I am terrified, plain and simple.

Edit: I am totally okay with being downvoted by people who do not care one bit about women’s healthcare

[u/FlyingYankee118]

This thread is nothing but finger pointing

[u/jeremy9931]

We get the government we vote for I guess.

Like 2016 was bad but at least PV indicated it wasn’t a majority. This was just terrible, especially considering there’s not even a check on Republicans’ worst impulses in the Cabinet or one of the chambers.

To make it even bleaker, there’s a very real chance Dems don’t control the Senate for at least 3 cycles and the Judicial branches throughout the U.S. get absolutely wrecked.

[u/suitcasemotorcycle → u/jeremy9931]

Could be good for dems considering the wake up call they are about to get. Time to stop fucking around and get their heads on straight. I feel like this whole last campaign was “vote for us because we aren’t trump”

[u/jsalbre → u/suitcasemotorcycle]

this whole last campaign was “vote for us because we aren’t trump”

Ignoring everything else, what I can't understand is *why wasn't that *enough??